# I want to give a good impression **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 11, 2014, 8:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-give-a-good-impression/60852 "2014-01-11T20:10:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![prscustom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@prscustom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/prscustom)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 8:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-give-a-good-impression/60852/1 "2014-01-11T20:10:33Z")
soon ill be attending a course for few weeks, and i want to make the best first impression possible. incase i see a girl i like in the class, i want to have the best cards. age anything between 20s to 30. can you recommend a strong mix that gives a “boyfriend material” vibe? practical crush effect? i was thinking about mx297 + ammo + ih in 3:2:2 ratio plus a drop of a314 (oil isnt that potent anyway). or mx297 + tuth + is or a314 + ammo + is thanks ---
**Author:** ![mackie72](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mackie72/32/623_2.png) [@mackie72](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mackie72)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 8:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-give-a-good-impression/60852/2 "2014-01-11T20:55:02Z")
Hi prscutom I was thinking more [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) +tac +IS ---
**Author:** ![prscustom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@prscustom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/prscustom)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 11:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-give-a-good-impression/60852/3 "2014-01-11T23:23:35Z")
hi, i dont have tac or p75, i have only these. can you suggest the best mix out of them? p102,p91,p83,p74, molecule c, mx297, a314 spray and oil, IS, [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), TUTH ---
**Author:** ![fishdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/4bbf92/32.png) [@fishdude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fishdude)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2014, 12:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-give-a-good-impression/60852/4 "2014-01-12T00:10:49Z")
For your age, and I’m assuming your a young whipper snapper, go with just 1 drop A314 and a dose 10 mcg of p74. A314 is king when women are looking for boyfriend material. P74 will make it just abit smoother for the younger girls. Save your [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) for date 3 or 4 and tac too. Read up and don’t overdo it. FD ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2014, 1:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-give-a-good-impression/60852/5 "2014-01-12T01:20:31Z")
Don’t use A314 and [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) in the same mix - It sets-up a confusing and unproductive vibe. Use one or the other instead. ---
**Author:** ![prscustom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@prscustom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/prscustom)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2014, 1:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-give-a-good-impression/60852/6 "2014-01-12T01:53:28Z")
which one do you suggest? is it possible to OD mx297? lets say 3-4 sprays. im 26yold btw. i had positive responses from both mixes, but since i didnt have the opportunity to test them intensively, cant say for sure. mx297 makes me feel good, its like IS mixed with a314. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2014, 2:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-give-a-good-impression/60852/7 "2014-01-12T02:11:42Z")
No, I don’t think you can OD on it but 3-4 sprays [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) is way too much if you have sexual/romantic motives - That’s instant friendzone, fun-social friendzone certainly but no sexual presence nonetheless. Stick to 2 sprays maximum in any kind of 297/sexual mix - You will still see some pretty wild results from that in the right environments - its not really a workplace phero IME, unless you are an entertainer or in a line that involves a lot of light “chatting-up” the customers. MX297 also lacks any long-term bonding/emotional memory properties - It can give fantastic, almost limpet-like social and personal engagement in the short term but be completely forgotten and back to square one the next day. Its all up to how you handle it in the moment. If you are looking for a competent/professional but boyfriend/crush/lingering effect, A314/IH/P74 is a good one in the work environment - Its also a good one for getting the upper hand around difficult people as well but I had to severely curtail my use of the mix at work due to the amount of women going all doe-eyed at me, it was becoming a problem. Keep the P74 fairly low in the mix - below 30mcg if a sexual is involved or 20mcg if not to avoid the risk of P74 being too “just friendly” IH can have a pretty wide dose range from 1-4 sprays and if you don’t have a sweet spot for A314 yet, start testing - this is the most critical one of all. This mix can also be sexualised very effectively by simply adding some TUTH after work - It already has decent moderation and balance. Which to use is difficult as IME, people tend to respond best to either one or the other - so it depends on them and what they like to a great extent. People with shyness/social anxiety do seem to go for MX297 a lot better than A314, which can put them right back in their shells. ---
**Author:** ![prscustom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@prscustom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/prscustom)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2014, 2:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-give-a-good-impression/60852/8 "2014-01-12T14:34:25Z")
i didnt know mx297 can make you friendzone, some say mx297 is alpha. i used p74 before i think i didnt like the self effects, i remember it somehow lowered my confidence. more the attention the better, it wouldnt disturb me. i want that confident females say " wow whos that guy, i NEED to know him better, i need to know him better" and shy ones blush when i talk etc.. i dont care what guys think or even try to fight. it happened to me before so i can handle it. can too much IH also put you in friendzone? can i mix IH with IS ? a314 + ammo + alot of IS and IH or 2x mx297 + 3x ammo + 4x IH ---
**Author:** ![prscustom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@prscustom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/prscustom)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2014, 2:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-give-a-good-impression/60852/9 "2014-01-12T14:38:26Z")
also while applying i thought about using [a314 spray](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic-spray/) plus the oil. like 1 spray of a314 for the first impression and 2 drops for lasting impression. all products applied before going out in morning ---
**Author:** ![Himeros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/himeros/32/2325_2.png) [@Himeros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Himeros)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2014, 2:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-give-a-good-impression/60852/10 "2014-01-12T14:41:09Z")
Mixing sprays and oil of A314 is fine, but use different application points or else diffusion will be affected. ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2014, 3:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-give-a-good-impression/60852/11 "2014-01-12T15:43:35Z")
> [@prscustom](#): > > i didnt know mx297 can make you friendzone, some say mx297 is alpha. > > i used p74 before i think i didnt like the self effects, i remember it somehow lowered my confidence. > > more the attention the better, it wouldnt disturb me. > i want that confident females say " wow whos that guy, i NEED to know him better, i need to know him better" and shy ones blush when i talk etc.. i dont care what guys think or even try to fight. it happened to me before so i can handle it. > > can too much IH also put you in friendzone? can i mix IH with IS ? > > a314 + ammo + alot of IS and IH > > or 2x mx297 + 3x ammo + 4x IH I would recommend the a314 + ammo + alot of IS and IH combo. I wouldn’t use [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) on the course/class unless you’re meeting the girls outside of class, on a night out or date. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2014, 6:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-give-a-good-impression/60852/12 "2014-01-12T18:30:20Z")
> [@prscustom](#): > > i didnt know mx297 can make you friendzone, some say mx297 is alpha. > > i used p74 before i think i didnt like the self effects, i remember it somehow lowered my confidence. > > can too much IH also put you in friendzone? can i mix IH with IS ? > > a314 + ammo + alot of IS and IH > > or 2x mx297 + 3x ammo + 4x IH Its anything but alpha! Some people confuse its “life and soul of the party” and social engagement vibes with being alpha - Its not and it lacks the lasting respect/quality vibe that alpha products impart. However, [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) is superb for party time and who-cares about the next day! 😉😃 P74 is one of the core pheros in many fallout/bonding/LTR/professional mixes, alongside IH. It would be worth trying to get used to P74 by wearing a low dose daily for some time - you should get used to any self effects in a week or two. The one major risk with IH involves people responding too deeply to it and pouring their hearts out to you - Which might seem great initially but yes, its a one-way ticket to the friendzone. In order to avoid this, some steering is needed and yes, IS is excellent - It can change the vibe to something close, trusting, playful, confiding and with the right behaviour on your part, you can have them sharing all the secrets that make them feel good/turn them on and attract them to you. Its quite a difference and the combo has light bonding properties. 🙂 Ammo/A314/IS/IH is a good mix but keep the A314 low - Less in conjunction with Ammo seems to do better on a younger guy and don’t drown it in IS/IH you don’t want to lose the effects of either. MX297/Ammo/IH - Again, don’t drown the MX297! Whilst Ammo is useful alongside it, I have found that MX297 does no go that well with Androsterone in general and if you have any TUTH, that would do far better to add a sexual element that does not detract from the MX297 vibe nearly as much. MX297 is also an excellent moderating mix and even two sprays will tame a fair amount of none. Similarly, IH is fairly superfluous here as MX297 is so engaging to begin with and 4 sprays seems far too much, again the pushing-60mcg of nols in that will push the balance right back to social. High-dose IH (esp now 4x is back! 😃 ) is another one of those “greater than the sum of its parts” products but requires a very different mix style to this. Save that for another thread. ---
**Author:** ![prscustom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@prscustom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/prscustom)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2014, 9:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-give-a-good-impression/60852/13 "2014-01-12T21:45:03Z")
thanks for your time that was pretty helpful, only i need to test it and see the results myself. as come in conclusion, ill be using a314 + ammo + is+ ih + p74 so what do you think of this to use first? 1x1314b spray to neck, 1,5 drop a314 behind and front of ears, 2 x (2xammo) between throat and chest, 3 x (2x IS) throat and wrists, 3x IH throat and wrists, 3x 5mg p74 back of neck and jawline corrected ---
**Author:** ![Himeros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/himeros/32/2325_2.png) [@Himeros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Himeros)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2014, 11:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-give-a-good-impression/60852/14 "2014-01-12T23:49:26Z")
Just saw in your intro thread that you’re 25 years old, just like me. In my opinion you’re using waaaay to much product my friend. Have you sweetspotted your A314? I only need 1 drop, more is too intense - especially around younger girls. The spray version is super blatant as it is, so you might make that big impression at first, but won’t hold their attention as you will scare them away with this much mones on you. Especialy with the double Ammo thrown in (that’s 10 mcg’s of androstenone!). In my experience the spray is only useful for impressing bigger crowds (when you need to give a presentation or something) and senior people (at job interviews for example). In social situations, I’ve only seen girls getting intimidated by me when wearing the [A314 spray](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic-spray/). ---
**Author:** ![prscustom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@prscustom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/prscustom)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 7:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-give-a-good-impression/60852/15 "2014-01-13T19:27:47Z")
so there only one hot girl in class but she supposedly have a bf. nevertheless i had a good day, was very confident. alone my real status and coolness was enough to get very high respect ( almost admire like respect), (high class guy but down to earth). everybody is friendly, constant stares from girls, and the way that girl behaves is very hot, i dont know if she does on purpose. like she tries to change her talk in slight seductive way, plays with her hair alot, visit restroom often. pheros or not, shes kinda turning me on =/ i never had convo with her and too bad shes the only hot girl in class.. and theres only guy thats better looking, but he got no style, low status and boring. btw i used 1xa314 drop, 1x ammo2x, 2x shine2x, 2xIH2x, 2xp74(5mg) i got the status only need to preserve it, but i want more action from people around me anyway ill keep cool and collected. lets see how things will go ---
**Author:** ![prscustom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@prscustom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/prscustom)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 5:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-give-a-good-impression/60852/16 "2014-01-21T17:54:56Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > No, I don’t think you can OD on it but 3-4 sprays MX297 is way too much if you have sexual/romantic motives - That’s instant friendzone, fun-social friendzone certainly but no sexual presence nonetheless. > > Stick to 2 sprays maximum in any kind of 297/sexual mix - You will still see some pretty wild results from that in the right environments - its not really a workplace phero IME, unless you are an entertainer or in a line that involves a lot of light “chatting-up” the customers. > > MX297 also lacks any long-term bonding/emotional memory properties - It can give fantastic, almost limpet-like social and personal engagement in the short term but be completely forgotten and back to square one the next day. Its all up to how you handle it in the moment. > > If you are looking for a competent/professional but boyfriend/crush/lingering effect, A314/IH/P74 is a good one in the work environment - Its also a good one for getting the upper hand around difficult people as well but I had to severely curtail my use of the mix at work due to the amount of women going all doe-eyed at me, it was becoming a problem. > > Keep the P74 fairly low in the mix - below 30mcg if a sexual is involved or 20mcg if not to avoid the risk of P74 being too “just friendly” IH can have a pretty wide dose range from 1-4 sprays and if you don’t have a sweet spot for A314 yet, start testing - this is the most critical one of all. This mix can also be sexualised very effectively by simply adding some TUTH after work - It already has decent moderation and balance. > > Which to use is difficult as IME, people tend to respond best to either one or the other - so it depends on them and what they like to a great extent. People with shyness/social anxiety do seem to go for MX297 a lot better than A314, which can put them right back in their shells. i have another question befor i report =) regarding your reply above, if there any reason to keep ammo out of the mix? you just mentioned a314+974+ih. is it too sexual? thanks ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 6:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-give-a-good-impression/60852/17 "2014-01-21T18:15:35Z")
No, A314/P74/IH is not hugely sexual, the only none in it is a trace/steering amount in the A314. However, despite this, A314/IH/P74 can send profound signals that trigger attraction in other ways which can be tuned/steered by judicious use of sexuals. Ammo could be used to increase its sexuality but the alphanol in Ammo will also detract from the overall quality of the mix. Personally I’d just use a little TUTH as there is already a good amount of broad-based moderation, so the Anol and unsteered rone in Ammo are largely superfluous here. ---
**Author:** ![prscustom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@prscustom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/prscustom)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 8:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-give-a-good-impression/60852/18 "2014-01-21T20:49:19Z")
by little tuth do you 1 spray or even half spray? thanks man you are always helpful, you are like the witch doctor of this tribe =P ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 8:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-give-a-good-impression/60852/19 "2014-01-21T20:55:51Z")
You will need to test to see what suits you best but I would start with one spray, then go up or down as your results decide. ---
**Author:** ![prscustom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@prscustom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/prscustom)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 8:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-give-a-good-impression/60852/20 "2014-01-22T08:53:16Z")
ok im using that mix for today, sry about tons of questions 🙂. but heres one more. would adding like 4x or 6x Is reduce the quality of that mix? if not how much can it improve? [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-give-a-good-impression/60852.md?page=2)