# I want to know more about NPA....

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [March 28, 2009, 9:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499 "2009-03-28T09:59:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ramtajogi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/dc4da7/32.png) [@ramtajogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ramtajogi)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2011, 11:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/21 "2011-07-09T11:40:45Z")

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**I want to know more about NPA… SO DO I**  
**I recon not much info come out from perotalk members use non AD stuff I am on A314 lol you can’t beat it but I still like to know report on NPA its sounds like awesome stuff lol pussy puller someone said b4 so yeah can some give us some real step by step how you go about and sum real drama you have been there and done that please 🆒**

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2011, 11:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/22 "2011-07-09T11:58:24Z")

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Well Ram - There is actually a lot of detailed info on NPA in this forum. A search or two will prove very fruitful. 🙂

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**Author:** ![ramtajogi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/dc4da7/32.png) [@ramtajogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ramtajogi)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2011, 12:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/23 "2011-07-09T12:03:52Z")

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AHH thanks mobocaster yes I did seach bro but yeah I think not much there

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**Author:** ![ramtajogi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/dc4da7/32.png) [@ramtajogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ramtajogi)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2011, 12:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/24 "2011-07-09T12:04:31Z")

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A search \* even lol

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2011, 12:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/25 "2011-07-09T12:27:47Z")

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Have another go then - We had two particularly good threads about August/Sept last year.

I’ll try and get a look later to link you up - I’m away out soon and searching from the phone is a bind!

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**Author:** ![ramtajogi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/dc4da7/32.png) [@ramtajogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ramtajogi)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2011, 1:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/26 "2011-07-09T13:07:38Z")

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I look forward to your help mobo :-)) all I can found sumfin better talk about NPA @\>\> [NPA – Loaded Grenade !!!!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-loaded-grenade/50824)  
**NPA – Loaded Grenade !!!**

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**Author:** ![slingblade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@slingblade](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/slingblade)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2011, 1:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/27 "2011-07-10T01:45:07Z")

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[Gegogi talks about it a lot.](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gegogi/summary)

Just search his name and NPA

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2011, 1:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/28 "2011-07-10T01:59:21Z")

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Try these for starters:

> [@NPA/TE: Do the secret ingredients soften the androstenone?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-te-do-the-secret-ingredients-soften-the-androstenone/42237):
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> Usually I am very easily going to OD when I use a androstenone-product (which contains None only). The perfect amount is about 4 mcg of None, 6 mcg is mostly already an OD. But if I use an 1/4 pack of the TE-gel-pack, this is just a perfect dosage, although this 1/4 pack contains much more androstenone than 4 mcg. Calculation: A full gel pack (new version) contains 80 mcg [pheromones](https://a314.com/), 50% of these are androstenone, and so 40 mcg. 1/4 pack would mean 10 mcg. Nevertheless, I can use a 1/4 pack o…

> [@question regarding TUTH \<-\>NPA and Alpha-7](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-regarding-tuth-npa-and-alpha-7/19130/2):
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> NPA is a concentrate. TE is the dilluted version. Not sure the mcg’s??? maybe 2.5mcg like TUH and [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), but very concentrated. Thats why everyone says “just 1 or 2 dabs” or "mix at 1:3 with a cologne [say 5ml NPA for 15ml cologne]. then again PI has 10, so maybe NPA is somehwere around 5??? doubt it though. go to there “pherolibrary” resource as it will state the mcg’s of each product. i get better hits with dabs, then cologne cover. A7 is 6mcg’s of androstenone and 1mcg of -rone. thus the name…

> [@Does 1 drop of NPA contain 12.5 mcg Pheromones](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-1-drop-of-npa-contain-12-5-mcg-pheromones/38568):
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> I’ve been trying to figure out how many [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) are in a drop of NPA. I think if there are 200 drops in a bottle then the concentration is 12.5 mcg of pheromones per drop, half of which is -none. But I’ve been searching the archives of both sites and I’ve also seen answers of 12 mcg per drop and 17 mcg per drop. Anyone know for sure which answer is correct?

> [@NPA vs Primal Instinct](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-vs-primal-instinct/36809):
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> Ok, I have seen lots of posts lately regarding NPA and Primal Instinct, so I was wondering if anyone had a preference to one or the other??? Which do you favor and why??? As for me, I think I would pick NPA simply because I have seen better results than with Primal Instinct. NPA is also more flexible because I can dab it on my skin or mix it with a cologne in an atomizer. BTW, since both of these products are very high in androstenone, is it possible that 2 drops of NPA might be (roughly)…

> [@NPA, the product, the myth, the legend](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-the-product-the-myth-the-legend/36790):
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> NPA= caveman sexiness Summary: I have tested NPA for almost two weeks now, and I have found it to be an extremely promising pheromone product. I received a bottle from love scent and have been applying test doses with my regular mixes as well as conducting individual testing. The best way to describe NPA is “caveman love” NPA is down in your face about saying “I want some of you and I want it NOW!” Basically this stuff is crazy! I like the way Gegogi said it “it is the pheromone equivalent…

> [@NPA+p83=?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-p83/36375):
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> I was thinking about trying this mix do you think it will work out well? I’m just asking because I have NPA and I will be getting [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) next week. Have any of you guys tried this mix out?

🙂

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**Author:** ![cjw255](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/45deac/32.png) [@cjw255](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cjw255)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2011, 5:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/29 "2011-07-10T05:26:18Z")

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I’ve gotten zero noticeable results with NPA or a7… and its incredibly frustrating. It makes me think I’ve done something wrong or I’m using it wrong when everyone has gotten such great results from it. I’m def going to try the filling the bottle with cologne first idea and see how that goes.

edit: and try a stronger cologne

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**Author:** ![Pandakun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pandakun/32/953_2.png) [@Pandakun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pandakun)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2011, 5:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/30 "2011-07-10T05:48:35Z")

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> [@cjw255](#):
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> I’ve gotten zero noticeable results with NPA or a7… and its incredibly frustrating. It makes me think I’ve done something wrong or I’m using it wrong when everyone has gotten such great results from it. I’m def going to try the filling the bottle with cologne first idea and see how that goes.
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> edit: and try a stronger cologne

You got NO Result?!? What was Your Mix Ratio?!? I know Lovescent says 7mL NPA to 25mL Cologne… That’s Roughly a 1:3.6 Ratio… Rather Stout to be Honest… I’m going with a 1:4 mixed in a ToGo that Way I can Add Cologne if Needed to Further Cover the NPA…

Note: One ToGo with NPA/Cologne and One with Just Cologne… That Way if the Scent is Too Strong you can Cover or If you Need More NPA you can Add… Keeps All Your Bases Covered with Just Two Small Bottles While Testing it…

I’m Out but just Order some More for More Testing…

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**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2011, 11:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/31 "2011-07-10T11:27:52Z")

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I haven’t even tried NPA yet. I mixed it 1:5 with D&G pour homme edt a couple of weeks ago when I got the bottle but the stench was so god awful I want to be sure it really blends before I put it anywhere near my body.

Taking a whiff at NPA alone is like getting shoved into an asshole head first. The reek is imprinted in my mind, I feel sick just thinking about it.

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**Author:** ![ramtajogi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/dc4da7/32.png) [@ramtajogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ramtajogi)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 4:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/32 "2011-07-11T04:58:09Z")

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> mobocaster
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> Try these for starters:
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> [NPA/TE: Do the secret ingredients soften the androstenone?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-te-do-the-secret-ingredients-soften-the-androstenone/42237) [MEN’s Pheromone Advice, Tricks and Tips](https://pheromonetalk.com/c/men-s-pheromone-advice-tricks-and-tips/45)
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> [question regarding TUTH \<-\>NPA and Alpha-7](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-regarding-tuth-npa-and-alpha-7/19130/2) [MEN’s Pheromone Advice, Tricks and Tips](https://pheromonetalk.com/c/men-s-pheromone-advice-tricks-and-tips/45)
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> [Does 1 drop of NPA contain 12.5 mcg Pheromones](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-1-drop-of-npa-contain-12-5-mcg-pheromones/38568) [MEN’s Pheromone Advice, Tricks and Tips](https://pheromonetalk.com/c/men-s-pheromone-advice-tricks-and-tips/45)
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> [NPA vs Primal Instinct](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-vs-primal-instinct/36809) [MEN’s Pheromone Advice, Tricks and Tips](https://pheromonetalk.com/c/men-s-pheromone-advice-tricks-and-tips/45)
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> [NPA, the product, the myth, the legend](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-the-product-the-myth-the-legend/36790) [MEN’s Pheromone Advice, Tricks and Tips](https://pheromonetalk.com/c/men-s-pheromone-advice-tricks-and-tips/45)
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> [NPA+p83=?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-p83/36375) [MEN’s Pheromone Advice, Tricks and Tips](https://pheromonetalk.com/c/men-s-pheromone-advice-tricks-and-tips/45)

🙂 **thanks mobocaster WoW that a lota read mate great info on NPA thanks you for your finding all this for all of us new members** 🆒

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**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 6:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/33 "2011-07-11T18:12:33Z")

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You’re so funny Misein (Getting shoved into an asshole first). What you have to do is blend NPA with a cologne that has very long duration.

I was using APC but just picked up ISSEY MIYAKE L’aux D’issey pour homme.

I blend it 5:1 cologne to npa and put it in a sephora atomizer. I find 1 spray to the wrists is enough. Sometimes I can get away with more but more than likely it messing my mind. I’m one of those people who look like a murderer if I spray npa near my facial regions. Otherwise I look like a sweety.

So I’m stuck applying it to my forearms which takes away the self effects on me but hopefully still works on others.

Unless you have a killer body you will need some game to make this mone work bit I’m not sure how to be congruent with it.

Can we get some congruency lessons with NPA?

Gone are the sexy flirtive , seductive glances I used to get when wearing NPA around my neck region when I was younger. Around the wrists and these glances have almost faded away. Damn I’m so unlucky with this product! \<sigh\>

On the other hand I tried chatting it up with my SO over coffee with npa to wrists. I talked nonstop with her for 1 hr. I had my whole “get to know you” script working in action. It was amazing, I was like an actor. Any more than 1 spray though and my mind would of zonked out and my script down the trash. HEHE.

dsouza

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**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 7:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/34 "2011-07-11T19:03:19Z")

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Well I can only hope that the D&G outlasts NPA in duration. I think it will, tried spraying a bit (of the mix) on my arm the other day and sniffed at it now and then. The D&G scent is really subtle after a while but was still there many hours later.

I guess it will be fine. Have so much stuff to try out that I haven’t gotten around to wearing this NPA-mix in social settings yet.

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**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 11:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/35 "2011-07-11T23:39:38Z")

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I think I found a cure to my low rone problem. I had mentioned that NPA kinda turns me into a mute but that is because I naturally produce low rone. So in the past i used to start the day with a7/soe to get a high rone signature and then at night go out with SOE edge. Worked wondered until the next day when i got ghosted by all that none OD.

Today I tried an experiement. I used IS AMMo instead for the rone effect. The hits were great but as you’d expect with ammo they were more polite hits and a polite vibe. Some attractive white girls were smiling and joking with me but it seems to turn me into Mr Nice Guy who talks a lot.

Then at nighttime I went out with 1 spray of NPA to outer hands, rubbed together, and 1 spray to chest. Mixed with ISSEY MIYAKE.

I was a solid star tonight. No signs of OD. I was in a good mood. I got a lot of attraction based hits even from married women. This one married woman who always asks how my wife is doing because she is with me didn’t ask this time when I wore NPA. This tells me she was attracted and in la la land for a while. It’s as if I was alone withut my wife there and as if she was single… gotta love that NPA when it hits.

I also find that when I smile more I get more positive hits and it reduces the tension of NPA. the secret is to be in a positive mood. So any intense and non relaxed activities should be avoided when using the product.

I save NPA for when I know I will socialize and when I am around latinos.

Also getting my mind off of the nasty and on getting to know a woman first has helped tremendously. When the pressure is on to get laid fast one gets tense fast too. Now I tell myself the first date with any woman is to lay on the table a brief story(s) of my life and explore hers. It may lead to some kissing but not sex.

So I don’t have to think about sex all the time when I see beautiful women, now I just think I gotta smile and be sexy.

NPA delivers but you have to work with it. It has no pull on its own and it only works on some targets. Once you know who it works on you can start wearing it around those people when you see them.

I find with the Spanish crowd NPA does well. I leave out the SOE entirely as I use Ammo IS in the mornings and that gives me my nol and rone and none kick for the day.

Oh one other thing there is a world of difference between applying to wrist and applying to chest. the chest trick made ALL THE DIFFERENCE today. I leave my shirt unbuttoned as its 30 degrees celcius here in Sunny Toronto Canada.

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**Author:** ![cjw255](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/45deac/32.png) [@cjw255](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cjw255)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2011, 4:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/36 "2011-07-13T04:33:12Z")

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that change DEFINITELY helped

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**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2011, 1:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/37 "2011-07-13T13:46:31Z")

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In the name of science, dimmit!! 😉

D and C, you two should do a test run of your sprays of NPA to your old spots … DA NECK … and test a piece of a drop … piece of a drop! 😃 … of A314, or any other -mone that gives you that **I FEEL GOOD** or **I’M THE MAN** feeling, and see if the works for you.

Book report due by close of business, 4:00 p.m. 🙄, 20 July, 2011. 😃

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**Author:** ![cjw255](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/45deac/32.png) [@cjw255](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cjw255)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2011, 2:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/38 "2011-07-13T14:20:26Z")

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Npa p86 taa tah and instant honesty was what I’ve been using together. I will say I noticed less results with the npa sprayed on my wrists as apposed to my neck…replace npa with ammo or tuth been doing that as well

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**Author:** ![Pandakun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pandakun/32/953_2.png) [@Pandakun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pandakun)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2011, 8:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/39 "2011-07-13T20:48:11Z")

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Guess, I’ll Join in the Testing… Just got NPA in Today… I’ll be Mixing 1mL NPA to 4mL Cologne… So 20% NPA to 80% Cologne… That is Just Higher then the 7:30 Ratio or 18.9% NPA that they Quote as Optimal on the Box… I’ll be Testing NPA by Itself this Thursday Night (Mixed with Cologne)…

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**Author:** ![ramtajogi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/dc4da7/32.png) [@ramtajogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ramtajogi)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 12:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/40 "2011-07-19T00:04:39Z")

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**okay I find this all about NPA \>** [https://pheromonetalk.com/search?expanded=true](https://pheromonetalk.com/search?expanded=true)

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