# I want to know more about NPA....

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [March 28, 2009, 9:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499 "2009-03-28T09:59:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2011, 11:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/61 "2011-08-21T23:18:37Z")

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In a suitably charged environment, 3 sprays would probably be fine. I’ve had good hits off plenty of women in the mid-late 20s range in clubs with that. It all depends on your own variables - You just need to try it and see what happens. 🙂

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**Author:** ![hypno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/9de053/32.png) [@hypno](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hypno)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2013, 6:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/62 "2013-06-14T06:52:27Z")

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Hi guys, got my NPA today (eventually after customs got their grubby hands on it and charged me for the privilege).  
I just made a mix up of NPA, cool water and A1. 5:1 cool water /NPA and 2 drops of a1 to give it a kick in a 5ml Togo bottle. Ill probably use IH on back of my hands.  
I’m testing tonight, ill start with one spray back of my neck then add another an hour later.  
Ill report my findings tomorrow.

Cheers

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**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2013, 8:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/63 "2013-06-14T08:32:33Z")

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> [@hypno](#):
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> Hi guys, got my NPA today (eventually after customs got their grubby hands on it and charged me for the privilege).  
> I just made a mix up of NPA, cool water and A1. 5:1 cool water /NPA and 2 drops of a1 to give it a kick in a 5ml Togo bottle. Ill probably use IH on back of my hands.  
> I’m testing tonight, ill start with one spray back of my neck then add another an hour later.  
> Ill report my findings tomorrow.
> 
> Cheers

Did you get the NEW VERSION: Clear bottle?

Or the OLD VERSION: Amber bottle?

Word on the streets is that they twicked its formula, and it’s NOT as good as the OLD.

To be continued …

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2013, 9:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/64 "2013-06-14T09:11:36Z")

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I have a bottle of the latest stock NPA on its way from Lacroy direct this time - So I should be able to say something on that soon. 🙂

Otherwise, I’m not yet convinced - Lacroy have refreshed the brand image, set-up a better webstore and actually changed things about the packaging **twice** in the last eighteen months but they go to some length to say that nothing else has changed on their website and in direct communication by email.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2013, 9:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/65 "2013-06-14T09:15:03Z")

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> [@hypno](#):
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> I just made a mix up of NPA, cool water and A1. 5:1 cool water /NPA and 2 drops of a1 to give it a kick in a 5ml Togo bottle.

That’s a bit stingy on the A1 IMO - I’m usually adding 0.5-0.75ml to a 1:5 togo’s worth. is it the Lovescent A1 - a drop of that is only around 40-45mcg IIRC.

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**Author:** ![leon333](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leon333/32/539_2.png) [@leon333](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/leon333)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2013, 6:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/66 "2013-06-15T18:07:20Z")

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hmmm..interesting! i got a bottle of A1 10mg 10ml from LS.a lot of people say that each drop contains 25mcg and mobo is saying 40-45mcg.we are getting mix info here.if each drop contains 40-45mcg,i’ve been using a large dose of A1 without realizing it.i use 1 drop on inner forearm or wrist without any depression.but 2 drops the depression hit me hard like a truck,really scary people

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**Author:** ![hypno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/9de053/32.png) [@hypno](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hypno)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2013, 4:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/67 "2013-06-16T04:08:11Z")

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Hi, Mobocaster, The Npa came in the amber bottle, I’m not technically minded when it comes to mixing still pretty confused to be honest.  
How much more A1 should I put in.  
I tested it out last night and it didn’t seem that great, had better results with my normal stuff.  
It didn’t give the results that’s everyone is raving on about, But only first test, I Had the manageress attention all evening which was good ,chatted for ages.

I’m going to try it dabbed on next then cover with coolwater. I probably messed the mixing up.  
Cheers

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**Author:** ![hypno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/9de053/32.png) [@hypno](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hypno)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2013, 4:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/68 "2013-06-16T04:12:26Z")

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I realised that I didn’t say how much I put in the togo bottle. It was about 1ml in total.  
Cheers

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**Author:** ![hypno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/9de053/32.png) [@hypno](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hypno)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2013, 4:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/69 "2013-06-16T04:13:30Z")

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YES the A1 is from love scent

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2013, 12:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/70 "2013-06-16T12:04:31Z")

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> [@hypno](#):
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> I realised that I didn’t say how much I put in the togo bottle. It was about 1ml in total.  
> Cheers

OK, that makes more sense - I was assuming you made a full 5ml.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2013, 12:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/71 "2013-06-16T12:49:58Z")

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> [@leon333](#):
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> hmmm..interesting! i got a bottle of A1 10mg 10ml from LS.a lot of people say that each drop contains 25mcg and mobo is saying 40-45mcg.we are getting mix info here.if each drop contains 40-45mcg,i’ve been using a large dose of A1 without realizing it.i use 1 drop on inner forearm or wrist without any depression.but 2 drops the depression hit me hard like a truck,really scary people

Frankly, the LS dropper is not very accurate - I’ve just tried three different droppers and got 43, 40 and 33mcg respectively. Much better to use a quality pippette and mix a known, reliable volume.

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**Author:** ![Phatnezz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/df705f/32.png) [@Phatnezz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phatnezz)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 2:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/72 "2013-07-03T02:44:42Z")

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Hey guys,

I’ve just ordered some NPA, but i am a little confused with mixing. You guys mention 5 part cologne and 1 part NPA. I was hoping if one of you guys can shed some light on that subject. Do you guys mean 5 sprays cologne to 1 drop npa or 5ml cologne to 1ml NPA?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 3:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/73 "2013-07-03T03:01:18Z")

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Its 5ml cologne to 1ml NPA.

If you are mixing in a 5ml togo, that works out as 4.2ml Cologne to 0.8ml NPA but that is just a starting point - You may find you need to vary the NPA proportion a bit to suit different applications. My range would be 0.6 to 2.3ml NPA into 5ml.

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**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 1:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/74 "2013-12-02T13:08:39Z")

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Dang Mobo, that’s still kind of vague. Also, I am not in the mood to buy any cologne…lol. How is Old Spice…lol. I don’t own any atomizers, I have a tiny bit of Realm, I can get some aftershave. As much as I have spent, I better be having office sex…lol

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 4:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/75 "2013-12-02T16:23:14Z")

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This is where testing is the **only** way to clarify matters - You need to see what dose works for you in your own situation.

Depends how strong the Old Spice aftershave is - It could be too much to use as a cologne but if its not very strong it should be fine. Sephora Atomisers are sold in many department stores/perfume shops and are a known quality/dose, so all is good there.

Pharmacies can sell you small measures/pippettes so you get the dosing right but if you had wanted an easier/similar formula, Edge Essentials is the alternative I’d suggest - Simple spray and the scent is far less brutal than other Edge products - much more manageable at work.

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**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 4:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/76 "2013-12-02T16:38:55Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
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> This is where testing is the **only** way to clarify matters - You need to see what dose works for you in your own situation.
> 
> Depends how strong the Old Spice aftershave is - It could be too much to use as a cologne but if its not very strong it should be fine. Sephora Atomisers are sold in many department stores/perfume shops and are a known quality/dose, so all is good there.
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> Pharmacies can sell you small measures/pippettes so you get the dosing right but if you had wanted an easier/similar formula, Edge Essentials is the alternative I’d suggest - Simple spray and the scent is far less brutal than other Edge products - much more manageable at work.

Already ordered NPA. Okay, so I’ll see about getting an atomizer…or what do you say about Bod? There are these little cheapies that aren’t that large. Then I won’t feel as nuts continuously buying more products. I need to try NPA…been on my mind for a year now.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 4:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/77 "2013-12-02T16:49:01Z")

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Yes, whatever else you do with pheros, getting to grips with NPA is a must for any guy over 30 IMO - It can be a nightmare to use but its undisputed raunch in the right situations is often a great help! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 4:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/78 "2013-12-02T16:51:39Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
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> Yes, whatever else you do with pheros, getting to grips with NPA is a must for any guy over 30 IMO - It can be a nightmare to use but its undisputed raunch in the right situations is often a great help! 🙂

So, there should be nothing wrong with using Bod? Also, do you have to smell mones for them to work?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 8:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/79 "2013-12-02T20:12:06Z")

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NPA is dosed to be fairly usable with wide variety of colognes but you may need to tune your dose a bit - again, testing is the only way.

Its more that the scent will help carry the mones off your skin and into the air around you, which helps reach the nostrils of your subjects - where they then pass the blood/brain barrier to do their work. You don’t need a lot of scent to make things much more effective.

Mones do work without a scent but they will stay much closer to you and not diffuse nearly so well or so far, leading to you needing a much higher dose, to often only a little better effect.

A scent also acts as a cover to help mask the often unpleasant smells of different mones - **especially** where NPA is concerned as it is one of the worst after copulins for smelling fowl - either from the mones themselves or when the breakdown products kick-in after a few hours (less in hot/sweaty conditions) . Scent response is also highly individual, so even if you can’t smell them, someone else may find you reek. Most will be on a scale somewhere in between though.

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**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 8:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499/80 "2013-12-02T20:19:09Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
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> NPA is dosed to be fairly usable with wide variety of colognes but you may need to tune your dose a bit - again, testing is the only way.
> 
> Its more that the scent will help carry the mones off your skin and into the air around you, which helps reach the nostrils of your subjects - where they then pass the blood/brain barrier to do their work. You don’t need a lot of scent to make things much more effective.
> 
> Mones do work without a scent but they will stay much closer to you and not diffuse nearly so well or so far, leading to you needing a much higher dose, to often only a little better effect.
> 
> A scent also acts as a cover to help mask the often unpleasant smells of different mones - **especially** where NPA is concerned as it is one of the worst after copulins for smelling fowl - either from the mones themselves or when the breakdown products kick-in after a few hours (less in hot/sweaty conditions) . Scent response is also highly individual, so even if you can’t smell them, someone else may find you reek. Most will be on a scale somewhere in between though.

Then I must really reek then…lol. Smells really good to me. I haven’t been told anything. Most tell me its very light and fresh smelling. My mom said I smell like a deer, but I learned not to listen to her on smells a long time ago.

Okay, well…I still have yet to experience depression from TL even at 3 drops. I think I may just like NPA a lot. Funny thing, my hits are unpredictable. Right now, it seems like the stuff isn’t working. TL, A314, etc. I could be wrong though.

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