# I was a sexy Kitten, till I got hurt

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**Created:** [August 30, 2011, 5:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-was-a-sexy-kitten-till-i-got-hurt/52082 "2011-08-30T17:16:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Illy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/958977/32.png) [@Illy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Illy)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 5:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-was-a-sexy-kitten-till-i-got-hurt/52082/1 "2011-08-30T17:16:22Z")

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Hello,  
I want to discuss my situation. I was always a sex kitten but Then I got butchered by a dr during a C-Section. I have suffered chronic pelvic pain for over 5 years, needless to say I havn’t felt very sexy lately.. I’m burnt out.. I feel that with this happening to me It took my pheromone levels down.. my body on over drive 24/7 trying to deal with the pain seems to have burnt out my feel good hormone levels…Men think I’m great, but something stops them from the final approach. I’m pretty sure its the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/). I’m more of a buddy now then a potential mate. This has Never been a problem till I got hurt. Any suggestions?

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**Author:** ![JohnnyHard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnyhard/32/1753_2.png) [@JohnnyHard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyHard)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 5:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-was-a-sexy-kitten-till-i-got-hurt/52082/2 "2011-08-30T17:16:50Z")

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Welcome! You found the right place!

Hi Illy, very very sad story ☹, I’m so sorry, I must also say mones are no magic pill, it’s more a booster, the better your feelings are, the better are the effects…

Try [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), everyone love this stuff, is a effective mood booster, with a exciting good feeling aura.

And then you have two option, first the very feminine, sweetie and sexy Instant Sexiness B, also calls the cuddly maker or the more dominant sexy MX397. I read that you have maybe also a great mood with it.

Illy if you tell us something more about you, for example your hobbies and maybe how you find us, you can get a nice gc.

I hope especially Instant Shine can help you a little bit with your self-confidence and IS/B or MX397 for a more sexy feeling. It’s great that we have you here and ask us if you need more infos. 🙂😉

Warmth wishes 🙂

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**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 5:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-was-a-sexy-kitten-till-i-got-hurt/52082/3 "2011-08-30T17:17:14Z")

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**HI and welcome here at Pherotalk ..**

It makes me really sad to read your story ..

i´m not sure what to suggest and how to help you

look i´m not a women

so to get your intro enough attention …

please repost it in the women´s main forum

not all people here on the board have the time to check the intro section …

soo i think you should get all the help you can get and our experienced female members will be happy to help you ..

i´m sure we´re gonna find a way alltogether to improve your situation !

tell us a bit more about how you´ve been perceived by others … guy´s and girl´s

has how you´re perceived by women changed as well ?

I´d go concerning the mones with the suggestions made by Johnny Hard

Instant Shine for the feel good vibe ..and Instant Sexiness B for more sexual sparks

[Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) will make you more approachable ..

the mones in it project a young human

well…

i wish you all the best …

heads up

and do not hesitate to get the advice over at the women´s place

**Pago**

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**Author:** ![Oasis314](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/oasis314/32/219_2.png) [@Oasis314](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Oasis314)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 5:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-was-a-sexy-kitten-till-i-got-hurt/52082/4 "2011-08-30T17:23:36Z")

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Hey there!

Illy, you present a very very unique situation.

I do hope that you do at least are alright after that operation.

In terms of mones, the feel good vibe that you mentioned can be found in the product IS.

May I ask what is your definition of how men think you are great? Great in terms of just friends and not being as potential mates?

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**Author:** ![Illy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/958977/32.png) [@Illy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Illy)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 5:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-was-a-sexy-kitten-till-i-got-hurt/52082/5 "2011-08-30T17:37:54Z")

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When I talk to men, My approach leaves them in a "WoW’ state. they think I’m a wonderful person they are amazed at my diversity of skills from art to restoring classic cars to my love of cooking etc… They find I am easy to talk to and act very interested in ‘hearing more’ My mind and heart are still sharp, but my body seems a bit worn down… It isn’t a physical appearance its an aura.. people can tell I’m weak and suffering physically.. I know my heart and mind are attractive but with the suffering I go through it seems to make men back off. I don’t cry about my situation I have no self pity, I truck through the garbage and try to find something positive in all things. So I know it isn’t my attitude. I feel it is hormonal.

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**Author:** ![Oasis314](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/oasis314/32/219_2.png) [@Oasis314](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Oasis314)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 5:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-was-a-sexy-kitten-till-i-got-hurt/52082/6 "2011-08-30T17:41:51Z")

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You extrude a lot of depth in your descriptions, I sense that you are more or less in tuned with the current environmental and social situations.

Men generally are attracted to the superficial looks, but what intrigues them later on is also built upont he connection which they share and which seems to be your strengths.

I think you are already ready to go towards the direction of mones, for that, both Pago and Johnny have already gave great advice, to summarize, you might want to take a look at;

1. IS/b
2. [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/)
3. IO and IH

Also, head over to the Women’s Section as well, loads of informative posts to guide you along the way 🙂

Cheers Illy, I’m sure that you would become a great contributor in future!

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**Author:** ![Illy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/958977/32.png) [@Illy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Illy)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 5:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-was-a-sexy-kitten-till-i-got-hurt/52082/7 "2011-08-30T17:51:29Z")

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My Hobbies are simple, I love being creative, Turning old beat up furniture, cars, homes back into their former glories.. I found this site because I know the benefits of Pheromones Started to search and I noticed when I looked here, It was a bulls eye.So I thought I’d stick around 😉

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**Author:** ![Illy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/958977/32.png) [@Illy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Illy)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 8:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-was-a-sexy-kitten-till-i-got-hurt/52082/8 "2011-08-30T20:54:06Z")

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Thx Guys for your advice. I’m going to take up your recommendations and perhaps it will help me a little bit… I will make sure I post on results… This might be a pick me up for those suffering from chronic pain.. as anything that can make things even a little bit nicer is a plus.. I will keep you informed. 🙂

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**Author:** ![JohnnyHard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnyhard/32/1753_2.png) [@JohnnyHard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyHard)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 12:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-was-a-sexy-kitten-till-i-got-hurt/52082/9 "2011-08-31T00:13:13Z")

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I really hope it works for you and please wait on Mickaelia for you gc (maybe 24 hours) and thanks for your nice answers. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Oasis314](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/oasis314/32/219_2.png) [@Oasis314](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Oasis314)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 3:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-was-a-sexy-kitten-till-i-got-hurt/52082/10 "2011-08-31T03:13:38Z")

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> [@Illy](#):
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> My Hobbies are simple, I love being creative, Turning old beat up furniture, cars, homes back into their former glories.. I found this site because I know the benefits of Pheromones Started to search and I noticed when I looked here, It was a bulls eye.So I thought I’d stick around 😉

Reporting the effects will actually compound into your social skill set 🙂

You become more consciously aware of the body language of people and you become more constantly on a lookout for hits.

I’m sure you will do well Illy!

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**Author:** ![byrd2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@byrd2000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/byrd2000)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 4:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-was-a-sexy-kitten-till-i-got-hurt/52082/11 "2011-08-31T04:55:25Z")

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I don’t have any dditional recommendations for you a everyone else has certainly covered them, but after reading what you have posted, I absolutely have to say that you are indeed a strong and sagacious person. Here’s to you finding all that you are lookig for!

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**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 10:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-was-a-sexy-kitten-till-i-got-hurt/52082/12 "2011-08-31T10:03:12Z")

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> [@Illy](#):
>
> _**Hello,  
> I want to discuss my situation. I was always a sex kitten but Then I got butchered by a dr during a C-Section. I have suffered chronic pelvic pain for over 5 years, needless to say I havn’t felt very sexy lately.. I’m burnt out.. I feel that with this happening to me It took my pheromone levels down.. my body on over drive 24/7 trying to deal with the pain seems to have burnt out my feel good hormone levels…Men think I’m great, but something stops them from the final approach. I’m pretty sure its the pheromones. I’m more of a buddy now then a potential mate. This has Never been a problem till I got hurt. Any suggestions?**_

> [@Illy](#):
>
> _ **When I talk to men, My approach leaves them in a "WoW’ state. they think I’m a wonderful person they are amazed at my diversity of skills from art to restoring classic cars to my love of cooking etc… They find I am easy to talk to and act very interested in ‘hearing more’ My mind and heart are still sharp, but my body seems a bit worn down… It isn’t a physical appearance its an aura.. people can tell I’m weak and suffering physically.. I know my heart and mind are attractive but with the suffering I go through it seems to make men back off. I don’t cry about my situation I have no self pity, I truck through the garbage and try to find something positive in all things. So I know it isn’t my attitude. I feel it is hormonal.** _

Hi, Illy. 🙂 Welcome to the forum!

I’m sorry you’re having so much trouble with chronic pain. That’s an heavy burden to carry everyday and extremely stressful. You’re speaking very personally, frankly, and bravely about it, so I’m going take the liberty and ask you a few questions. 🙂

First, have you actually had your hormone levels checked? Are you on The Pill? Both are important questions when discussing sexual functioning and what that means for attraction/mating. You’re right, your problem is probably partly hormonal but there’s more to it than that if you are experiencing chronic pain for over five years. Dealing with chronic pain is the other issue. It’s not only painful, it’s depressing, as you well know. That can take a toll on you in more ways than one and I’m sure that impacts what you are physically capable of doing sexually and which may also be contributing to your troubles. It affects how you feel about yourself and although you try very hard to “keep it to yourself”, the pain you experience on a daily basis is translating from you to others in, as you said, the “aura” you project.

Having had a C-section tells me that you have most likely developed pelvic/abdominal adhesions (scar tissue) and that’s what’s probably/also contributing to your chronic pain. Adhesions are a huge problem after any kind of surgery. Many people have life long problems concerning proper functioning of their internal organs/nerves, after surgery, because of scar tissue (formation) entrapping them. I’m not saying this to scare you, and you may already be aware of this complication, but because I think it may have bearing in your particular case.

Try as you do, it’s very hard to to keep the pain under wraps. It’s an integral part of you and therefore it affects the image you project whether you want it to or not. With all your skills it seems you have no trouble attracting men. You just want them to see you as a sexy kitten but feeling the way you do it makes it hard to project that sexy aura and they seem to pick up on that… and that’s your dilemma.

Pheromones are not hormones and pheromones will only take you so far as to the “image” you want to project. No pheromone can override someone’s free will or make them do something they wouldn’t normally do.

It sounds to me like you need a bit of an ego boost and something to push these men over the edge… and _you_ outta the friend zone. You need copulins. To put it simply, copulins are fatty acids secreted in the vagina that fertile women produce. Fortunately, we have synthetic copulins that are available to us in the form of EoW (Essence of Woman available at Love Scent), that we can use in place of/to supplement our own natural copulins when we would like to do so.

Copulins give you a sexy, youthful vibe and signal to men that you are willing and ready for sex. Although you’re interested in developing more sexual attraction towards you, you need to ask yourself how you’ll respond to their advances. Are you really willing, ready and physically able for sex?

I would start with Instant Shine and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/). Instant Shine can help to lift your spirits as well as those around you and Instant Openness can ease communications in an upbeat way. Once you find your sweet spot with those, (the number of sprays that work for you), then you should try out EoW. AD products do not contain any copulins but I suggested them because every woman should have some in her arsenal for sexual attraction. Copulins will give that “sexy kick” to _any_ pheromone/pheromone mix you choose to use it with! 😉

Here are a couple links on the subject of copulins/EoW to help answer any questions you might have about it’s purpose and how to use it to your advantage. Then do a search on EoW and copulins and you’ll find more posts. 🙂

> [@Why do men notice me more during my time of the month?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/random-question/51992):
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> I dont know if this has anything to do with [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) but I have a question hopefully someone can answer. During my time of the month I notice men particularly will be more open around me actually, talk to me, turned a few heads a couple times, but only during that time any other time nothing really, Ive looked and paid attn. and I was just wondering if it was by chance a pheromone I produce at the time? Or something else completely? Or has anyone else noticed something like this happening to …

> [@EOW and perfume](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eow-and-perfume/51671):
>
> Hi all, I’m new at this. I am considering ordering Essence of Woman and am wondering if I can add it to an essential oil or if it is best used with alcohol-based scents?

If you have any more question please post them in the women’s forum because they’ll get buried here in the intro section and no one will see them. As Pago said 😉, the ladies are always happy to help.

Good luck and happy testing, Illy! 🙂

Bella

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**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 11:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-was-a-sexy-kitten-till-i-got-hurt/52082/13 "2011-08-31T23:20:50Z")

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Welcome to pherotalk Illy!

I can tell by your introduction that you are an amazing person and sometimes guys need more than just a wake up call they need a bump in their head with a bat to show them when a catch is standing right in front of them.

The products recommended are a start to get your sea legs and from there and even now you can go to the female section of the forum to get even more advise and tips as to what to do.

Now, if that is not enough we have a [pheromone](https://a314.com/) expert on call who helped more than hundreds of persons find the right product/products for them or pointed them in the right direction.

I would love to hear more from you so keep us updated.

**Your gc was issued! 😉**

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**Author:** ![toocheesy3](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toocheesy3/32/1632_2.png) [@toocheesy3](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toocheesy3)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 12:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-was-a-sexy-kitten-till-i-got-hurt/52082/14 "2011-09-01T00:34:08Z")

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You fix up classic cars? That’s boss, any kind of specific one you work on? Or you like to do 'em all? I’m a big fan of cars, especially the older models. Welcome to the phero community that’s the **Best** community there is, i’m sure you can tell already, i’m sorry to hear 'bout your problem, I do hope it works out for ya.

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**Author:** ![somechick03862](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@somechick03862](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/somechick03862)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 12:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-was-a-sexy-kitten-till-i-got-hurt/52082/15 "2011-09-02T00:45:27Z")

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Welcome Illy, I am new here, and I also had a C-Section nightmare. I developed an infection deep in my abdominal wall and nearly died. I hope that some day you find relief from your pain.

I have chronic lyme disease and am uninsured so I cannot treat it. I understand constant pain, it is very wearing. I haven’t felt like ‘me’ in so long! Today I tried [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) for the first time, two sprays. One between my wrists and one to my throat. I couldn’t believe how happy I felt, I didn’t seem to notice the symptoms of the lyme. I just felt on top of the world! I felt like one big ray of sunshine and that is SO not how I usually am these days! I took anti-depressants for post-partum depression and they didn’t make me feel this good.

It’s not too expensive, so maybe you could try that one and see if it perks you up a little. Might give you that spark that will take you out of the friend zone. I have been there sooooo much of my life, because…I grew up with my dad, hanging out in a garage, fixing cars, loving trucks, etc, that most guys thought of me as one of the guys. Your hobbies sound a lot like mine. I love to create beauty, painting, drawing, beading, photography, even the cookies I make look like magazine cookies(so they tell me…). So, what kind of cars do you fix up? I am a GM girl and my 8 year old daughter knows all the old muscle cars(her dad is a Ford boy).

Anyway, welcome and good luck. I hope to see you around the Women’s Forum. We seem to be waaaaay outnumbered by the guys!

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**Author:** ![Illy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/958977/32.png) [@Illy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Illy)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 1:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-was-a-sexy-kitten-till-i-got-hurt/52082/16 "2011-09-02T01:14:14Z")

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Hi guys I got my order today. I went right for the instant shine… it made me feel ‘Zen’ considering I had a hangover( I had a great date last night SO FUN) it was a great pick up…My 5 year seemed a bit more chill today, it was very strange but in a good way.  
Yes I had so many adhesion all throughout my abdomen that I had a laparoscopy a while back the D.r said he couldn’t even see my organs.  
The homeopathic I found used a herbal compound injected into the area and I could actually feel the adhesions twisting and snapping… he helped me to rid myself of at least 70% of the pain I was in. VERY happy of that.  
He also did hormone tests on me and found my testosterone was higher then most women but he also said he wasn’t surprised knowing the kind of woman I was.  
He did put me on very light doses of estrogen and progesterone. He explanation was because of the damage it has my hormones a little off kilter.. he also stated the hormone therapy will help my body to deal with the damage more efficiently. And just an FYI they are bioidentical hormones. I don’t need birth control pills because I had my tubes tied when the C Section was done.. I try to avoid chemical creations that come from big pharma.  
My last project was a 1967 Ford mustang coupe.. I’m in search of a 1970 Dodge charger and/or a 1971 Dodge Challenger for my next project.  
As far as what would I do with a man if he wanted to go all the way…that’s not my problem. Boy toys are a dime a dozen… Not that I have bothered lately, just not all that interested in having sex with just anyone.. I want to attract a man that I can enjoy ALL of him inside and out… no more immature males. I actually have a couple men I’ve got my sights on atm. lol.. they don’t know it yet, but they will soon enough.  
i think I covered everything… lol.. I really enjoy chatting with you guys..

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**Author:** ![somechick03862](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@somechick03862](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/somechick03862)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 1:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-was-a-sexy-kitten-till-i-got-hurt/52082/17 "2011-09-02T01:22:56Z")

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I have my ex-husband’s 65 Mustang Fastback still sitting in my barn…he better not get too nasty or it will be MY Mustang!

I have a customer that is a big Mopar man, he just picked up a CRAZY expensive 70 Charger, but it is sooo pretty! A guy came in today in his pristine black 67 Vette and we discussed old cars, he laughed when I rang someone up and it came to 327 and I immediately thought of an L84…I am a strange chick, I guess!

Hope you enjoy your AD products and find your Charger/Challenger project. You sound very cool 😃
