# I was b\*tchy to get respect lol **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 21, 2008, 10:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-was-b-tchy-to-get-respect-lol/18016 "2008-08-21T22:45:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2008, 10:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-was-b-tchy-to-get-respect-lol/18016/1 "2008-08-21T22:45:29Z")
Guys, this is so weird!!! Today, I wore only [instant sexiness B](https://phera.com/product/kitten/) (with 5x cops) went to the printshop…and the same old cashier guy treated me like a kid! :S WTH?! Oh I forgot to mention! 4 sprays, (2 to the neck, 1 to the wrists, 1 to the shoulder blade) Covered it in pink sugar But yea, he looked at me with disappointment (as if I’m a 5 yr old lost in a candy shop crying for more candy) when I was trying to explain him about how I wanted my prints to be cut. But then I snapped him out of it, and I went totally bitchy when he got the dimensions wrong. I felt really impatient, and so fricken upset. It was like I had to demand for respect and shake him to pay attention, and normally, I don’t have to do that…but yea, he got out of it after that and looked all confused and out of place. totally bizarre. Woah, I’m so confused myself right now…I feel like I got more reactions with is/a than with is/b. And I thought is/b would suit my personality since I’m just a ditzy noodle, girlie…etc. I like my is/b but maybe it’s just for bedtime for me lol I dunno…I’m starting to miss instant sexiness A now, how weird is that?! ---
**Author:** ![remmy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/remmy/32/2451_2.png) [@remmy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/remmy)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2008, 11:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-was-b-tchy-to-get-respect-lol/18016/2 "2008-08-21T23:14:45Z")
hi 🙂 ya, idno why but is-b does that to me also if that makes u feel better… i got ur pm and i was like.. what happened!!! i saw ur post about trading somewhere 😉 i hope it works out so u can get urself a nice IS-A.. cuz being TAL is fun 😉 btw, my other orders came in today.. not a big fan of the smell tho.. \<3 ---
**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2008, 11:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-was-b-tchy-to-get-respect-lol/18016/3 "2008-08-21T23:19:21Z")
aw, fiew, atleast I don’t feel like I’m alone. It’s weird cause with is/a I get the 360 head turn and with this one, people are just really nice or treat me like a kid (but then my personality probably amplifies it, so they just look at me like a 5 yr old, I don’t blame it on is/b it probably isn’t compatible with the air I’m giving off) Yes, I hope I get is/a soon! I’m gonna start saving for it Aww, you got your orders? what happened? ---
**Author:** ![remmy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/remmy/32/2451_2.png) [@remmy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/remmy)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2008, 11:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-was-b-tchy-to-get-respect-lol/18016/4 "2008-08-21T23:21:05Z")
check ur pm 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2008, 2:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-was-b-tchy-to-get-respect-lol/18016/5 "2008-08-22T02:41:40Z")
> [@msselva](#): > > I went totally bitchy when he got the dimensions wrong. I felt really impatient, and so fricken upset. It was like I had to demand for respect and shake him to pay attention, and normally, I don’t have to do that…but yea, he got out of it after that and looked all confused and out of place. First - as you and remmy observe - the IS/b may not be for your personality right now. Second - and this is one of those unfair parts of life - is that as a woman every now and then you will have to be a little “bitchy” to get people to do what they should be doing, treat you right, etc.. Part of it is that some people - men and women - will try to ignore and placate you and expect you to just take it and play nice. The other half of unfair is that if a man puts his foot down and does not take it he is being alpha or “exacting”. Only if it is over the top do people call him an a\*\*hole. When a woman does it she is being a \*itch because she is putting her foot down and not playing nice. This dichotomy really drives my wife crazy sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2008, 3:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-was-b-tchy-to-get-respect-lol/18016/6 "2008-08-22T03:28:11Z")
> [@msselva](#): > > But yea, he looked at me with disappointment (as if I’m a 5 yr old lost in a candy shop crying for more candy) when I was trying to explain him about how I wanted my prints to be cut. But then I snapped him out of it, and I went totally bitchy when he got the dimensions wrong. I felt really impatient, and so fricken upset. It was like I had to demand for respect and shake him to pay attention, and normally, I don’t have to do that…but yea, he got out of it after that and looked all confused and out of place. Are you sure he wasn’t just trying to get to spend more time with you? Not that any guy ever has messed something up lost in the lust of a woman. (I have done more stupid things daydreaming about various women in my life, and I am not talking intentional things, I spaced daydreaming about a date for a second and took out 40’ of fence with a tractor, misjudged a turn and the machine ate the fence. I ended up missing the date fixing the fence 😮 ) ---
**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2008, 3:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-was-b-tchy-to-get-respect-lol/18016/7 "2008-08-22T03:32:53Z")
> [@bosshank](#): > > First - as you and remmy observe - the IS/b may not be for your personality right now. _sigh_ > [@bosshank](#): > > Second - and this is one of those unfair parts of life - is that as a woman every now and then you will have to be a little “bitchy” to get people to do what they should be doing, treat you right, etc.. Part of it is that some people - men and women - will try to ignore and placate you and expect you to just take it and play nice. > > The other half of unfair is that if a man puts his foot down and does not take it he is being alpha or “exacting”. Only if it is over the top do people call him an a\*\*hole. When a woman does it she is being a \*itch because she is putting her foot down and not playing nice. OMG! you read what I felt like!..jeeze, you scare me sometimes! 😮 🙂 > [@bosshank](#): > > This dichotomy really drives my wife crazy sometimes. oh goodness, she’s not the only one _sigh_ ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2008, 3:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-was-b-tchy-to-get-respect-lol/18016/8 "2008-08-22T03:35:33Z")
> [@msselva](#): > > oh goodness, she’s not the only one _sigh_ My bet is you are in good company … ---
**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2008, 3:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-was-b-tchy-to-get-respect-lol/18016/9 "2008-08-22T03:39:52Z")
> [@woofie2](#): > > Are you sure he wasn’t just trying to get to spend more time with you? Not that any guy ever has messed something up lost in the lust of a woman. > (I have done more stupid things daydreaming about various women in my life, and I am not talking intentional things, I spaced daydreaming about a date for a second and took out 40’ of fence with a tractor, misjudged a turn and the machine ate the fence. I ended up missing the date fixing the fence 😮 ) hmm, that’s a really really good point…he could have been daydreaming. Which reminds me he felt bad about the photocopies/cuts that he screwed over and after, I snapped at him, he re-did it all perfectly. But I dunno, I highly doubt he was turned on or something, lol, I looked straight at him in the eyes, and I told him exactly what I wanted in a strict manner, not fun sort of manner. The thing that I didn’t notice the bill, but when my dad gave me the bill at home, he didn’t charge me for the messed up copies/cuts and I usually have pay for those messed-up copies/cuts,(and it was worth around fifty) omg, now I feel so guilty. ---
**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2008, 3:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-was-b-tchy-to-get-respect-lol/18016/10 "2008-08-22T03:41:15Z")
> [@bosshank](#): > > My bet is you are in good company … omg daddykins…I think I made a big big bobo!! I’m so stupid!😮 ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2008, 3:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-was-b-tchy-to-get-respect-lol/18016/11 "2008-08-22T03:54:44Z")
> [@msselva](#): > > he felt bad about the photocopies/cuts that he screwed over and after, I snapped at him, he re-did it all perfectly. > … he didn’t charge me for the messed up copies/cuts and I usually have pay for those messed-up copies/cuts,(and it was worth around fifty) … omg, now I feel so guilty. > [@msselva](#): > > omg daddykins…I think I made a big big bobo!! I’m so stupid! I don’t see it that way - he made a mistake, fixed it and did not charge you for _his_ mistake. You should not be expected to pay for _his_ errors … ---
**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2008, 3:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-was-b-tchy-to-get-respect-lol/18016/12 "2008-08-22T03:59:01Z")
> [@bosshank](#): > > I don’t see it that way - he made a mistake, fixed it and did not charge you for _his_ mistake. You should not be expected to pay for _his_ errors … That’s true, but usually they charge me even if it’s they’re fault 😠 ☹ . I hope he doesn’t get in trouble… but yes, I totally agree with you, _sigh_ that’s how print shops are here, if they screw up, I need to pay for their expenses (aka paper/ink) 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2008, 12:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-was-b-tchy-to-get-respect-lol/18016/13 "2008-08-22T12:29:04Z")
> [@msselva](#): > > _**I wore only instant sexiness B (with 5x cops)**_ _ **went to the printshop…** _ > > _ **the same old cashier guy treated me like a kid!** _ > > _**he looked at me with disappointment (as if I’m a 5 yr old lost in a candy shop crying for more candy) when I was trying to explain him about how I wanted my prints to be cut.**_ > > _ **I snapped him out of it** _ > > _ **It was like I had to demand for respect and shake him to pay attention** _ > > _ **after that and looked all confused and out of place.** _ Unfortunately, when women have to assert themselves, to be treated the way they should be in the first place, they’re labeled as bitchy. 🙄 Bosshank is right. You can add a lot more of us to that list. 😉 So you go to his print shop regularly and this is the first time he’s acted this way? Maybe because you threw him off with a different signature. It could’ve been the 5X cops that addled his brain. When you saw him last what were you wearing, selva? Do you usually wear cops around Mr. Fumbles? Maybe he couldn’t concentrate 'cause you whacked him…lol. Seriously, sometimes just because you are young, ignorant/rude people dismiss you. It’s not right and inexcusable to me. You’re still a customer and it’s his job to do it right for you regardless of that fact. Your money is as good as anyone elses and you should get what you want without a load of crap. I mean he does this for a living and it shouldn’t be that hard for him to understand you, right? One day I went to a paint store after a specific type of paint that I needed for a project. I’m already under a bit of pressure having to complete the project, with short notice, in two days. But I know what I want and I’m really in an OK mood. I mean I dun wanna stomp a puppy or nothin’. I go in and although the store is relatively empty the sales guys are standing around chatting with each other and I’m left waiting. For a minute I think I might be invisible and look down to check. Nope still there. I finally speak up and ask if someone can please help me. First of all the guy behind the counter looks at me like I’m a bug. Not a good sign. Then he says to me,“What can I do for you little lady?” Frankly, I wouldn’t mind hearing that under different circumstances…like from from some big 'ol sexy cowboy who wants to take me for a ride on his pony. But this guy ain’t no cowboy and there’s no pony in sight…jacka\*\* maybe…but no pony. So, I ask him if he carries what I’m looking for. He looks at me with distain, ignores my question and says, “Whadaya wanna use that for, use this” then proceeds to try to sell me something else. My patience is begining to wear thin with this jamoke and I ask my question again. Again he tells me that I dont want to use that. Meanwhile he’s looking me up and down and tells me I’m doing it all wrong and I might add that he wasn’t all that pleasant about it. He had absolutely no reason to treat me that way. Now I know a little about paint, I learned from my friend Harry…_who’s a paint chemist_. He told me what to buy, why I needed it, and exactly how to use it. If Harry doesn’t know than nobody does. I didn’t bother to go any further with OhSoHelpfulKnowItAllTreatMeLikeABrainlessIdiotA **holeMan. I turned on my heel and as I walked to the door, I looked over my shoulder and said quite loudly, "YOU’RE AN A** HOLE!!" Yes I did. 🙄 I usually have better control but this Ahole just pushed me too far. God help me, by the end our little conversation I wanted to kill him. There a day in the life of Bella…sound like fun? Sorry, I digress…back to you. It may have been a combination of things. Like I said about your age and the fact that you were putting out soft girly _sexy_ vibes. Also four sprays IS/B may have be too much under circumstances when you want to be taken more seriously. Thing is too much TAH can make you seem like a push over…you’re sweet to begin with and it could’ve pushed the edge in this particular situation, with this guy, at this time. You might’ve done better with 2 spays…just a thought. Have you tried IS/A and IS/B together? That works well for me to balance out things. Who knows, maybe the old fart was just having a bad day. 🙄 You’ll have to let us know what happens next time you see him, that’ll be interesting. 😮 He might run away! 😃 It was still a good report even if it didn’t make you happy…we take the bitter with the sweet. 😉 Reps! Bella ---
**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2008, 1:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-was-b-tchy-to-get-respect-lol/18016/14 "2008-08-22T13:02:05Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > So you go to his print shop regularly and this is the first time he’s acted this way? Maybe because you threw him off with a different signature. It could’ve been the 5X cops that addled his brain. When you saw him last what were you wearing, selva? Do you usually wear cops around Mr. Fumbles? Maybe he couldn’t concentrate 'cause you whacked him…lol. Yea, this was the first time he’s been like that. But yes, yesterday was my first time wearing cops to the print shop (cause last time, I only wore p83, cttm, instant openness, instant shine-this one doesn’t have cops though-) OMG about your event with the guy there, wow that is so annoying! I can soo see why you called him an a**hole! If it were me, I would have called my dad to crack him in half! (jk jk). Jeeze, and people get paid for being lazy dumba**s 🙄 > [@Bella](#): > > It may have been a combination of things. Like I said about your age and the fact that you were putting out soft girly _sexy_ vibes. Also four sprays IS/B may have be too much under circumstances when you want to be taken more seriously. Thing is too much TAH can make you seem like a push over…you’re sweet to begin with and it could’ve pushed the edge in this particular situation, with this guy, at this time. You might’ve done better with 2 spays…just a thought. Have you tried IS/A and IS/B together? That works well for me to balance out things. That’s really interesting, learned something today. I could try it with [instant sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/) A later today, but do you know what’ll happen if I try is/b with mx235? Will, I come out too soft? > [@Bella](#): > > Who knows, maybe the old fart was just having a bad day. 🙄 You’ll have to let us know what happens next time you see him, that’ll be interesting. 😮 He might run away! 😃 > > It was still a good report even if it didn’t make you happy…we take the bitter with the sweet. 😉 Reps! LOL! could be another possibility! 😉 I’m going to the printshop again (this time with 2 sprays of is/b) and I’ll tell ya what happens. Thanks for the reps! ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2008, 1:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-was-b-tchy-to-get-respect-lol/18016/15 "2008-08-22T13:33:15Z")
> [@msselva](#): > > _ **Yea, this was the first time he’s been like that.** _ _ **But yes,** _ _ **yesterday was my first time wearing cops to the print shop** _ Uh huh, that’s what I thought. One thing to keep in mind when wearing cops…they not only rattle men…but can make some guys down right stupid…lol. 😛 Sorry guys, but they can. > [@](#): > > That’s really interesting, learned something today. _ **I could try it with instant sexiness A later today, but do you know what’ll happen if I try is/b with mx235? Will, I come out too soft?** _ You might. While MX235, like MX135, has that center of attention star quality…it’s still TAH heavy. I don’t know if it will tamp you down as much as IS/B because it’s a much more complex mix that also contains TAL. You’ll just have to try it and see how you feel wearing it and if it gives you the reactions you’re looking for. You can always kick it up with a spray or two of IS/A if need be. 😉 Give it a shot and see how it goes. > [@](#): > > _**I’m going to the printshop again (this time with 2 sprays of is/b) and I’ll tell ya what happens.**_ Good luck…I almost feel sorry for him…_almost._ 😃 Bella ---
**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2008, 8:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-was-b-tchy-to-get-respect-lol/18016/16 "2008-08-22T20:38:30Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > Good luck…I almost feel sorry for him…_almost._ LOL! I tried it again today, 2 sprays of [instant sexiness B](https://phera.com/product/kitten/). He was at the cashier, and, I asked him why I didn’t have to pay for the messed up versions yesterday and he said that he paid for it 😮 …okay, I kept asking him to accept my money, but he really didn’t want it. So after 15mins I gave up. He just smiled, and said that I was cute. Gave him other stuff to photocopy and he does it properly. And when I pay him the money, he says that I have a discount, and I was like hmm really? 😕 well, I was on a rush to my bank appointment so I got a reason to take it and run out. * * * I went to the bank to open an account. I’m supposed to talk with the hott representative there (but I needed my dad by my side, cause I really suck at bank stuff). So the dude asks me for my info…yadda yadda yadda, and when I tell him my age. He double looks at me in disbelief, “You’re going to be 20? I thought you would be 16! It’s time to learn about banking now!” and I’m sitting there thinking when the hell is dad going to come. After that he talks to me about GIC or something, have no clue what that is, I gave a 😕 face. And he laughes, told me that I better start learning about banking from a to z :o And gives me his personal business card to contact him if I had any questions. Dad finally comes when everything is over 🙄 and when we leave, I just wave goodbye (it’s a normal habit) and the dude waves goodbye and winks at me 😮 😮 😮 LMAO you didn’t see dad’s face! hahaha