# ICM 0.25.1a & b Combo **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 25, 2010, 2:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-0-25-1a-b-combo/35715 "2010-01-25T02:50:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 2:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-0-25-1a-b-combo/35715/1 "2010-01-25T02:50:24Z")
Myself: Mid-40s, athletic, married Mix: SteveO’s ICM 0.25.1a and b mixes from this thread: The Future of the [Pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) Universe: I seek your help This is a follow-on report to these threads: [ICM 0.25.1a](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-0-25-1a-testing/16218) and [ICM 0.25.1a Redux](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-0-25-1a-redux/16924) Nothing as exciting as the first two reports. I wore: 2 Sprays ICM 0.25.1a 3 Sprays ICM 0.25.1b We went out for a “family” night dinner. So the evening itself was pretty uneventful. I really did not see any effects around me but nor was I looking for them in this case. Until we got home and the Mrs. sent the kids off to bed. 😃 And again first thing in the morning. Hate it when _that_ happens … lol.🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 3:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-0-25-1a-b-combo/35715/2 "2010-01-25T03:19:06Z")
Sounds exciting enough. 😃 5 sprays? Wow, that is major OD territory for me. I can get away with 3 maximum (never thought to combine them). ---
**Author:** ![putativematrix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c0e974/32.png) [@putativematrix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/putativematrix)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 7:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-0-25-1a-b-combo/35715/3 "2010-01-25T07:27:06Z")
Mones affect kids, too, got to be careful. I’m sure you know that though and have already gaged its effects. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 3:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-0-25-1a-b-combo/35715/4 "2010-01-25T15:29:56Z")
Snoopy - The a variant has 'none in it but the b variant does not, so it is not a whole lot of 'none with 2 sprays of the a variant. The other half of the equation is that part of it depends on your age as to how much 'none you can add into the mix. Check out MID’s journal here - you will see he has used this combo very successfully - using even slightly higher doses than I used. But he is also using them in a club environment. PM - my kids are a little older but still I went veeeeerrrrrrryyyyyy slowly at first. I still use mostly socials and [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) when I am around them. I usually do not use a mix like this around the kids - maybe for a short time before the wife and I go out. ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 3:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-0-25-1a-b-combo/35715/5 "2010-01-25T15:32:27Z")
> [@bosshank](#): > > Snoopy - > > The a variant has 'none in it but the b variant does not, so it is not a whole lot of 'none with 2 sprays of the a variant. > > The other half of the equation is that part of it depends on your age as to how much 'none you can add into the mix. > > Check out MID’s journal here - you will see he has used this combo very successfully - using even slightly higher doses than I used. But he is also using them in a club environment. > > PM - my kids are a little older but still I went veeeeerrrrrrryyyyyy slowly at first. I still use mostly socials and Instant Gentleman when I am around them. I usually do not use a mix like this around the kids - maybe for a short time before the wife and I go out. I understand, I’ve made literally every variant of the ICM mixes but even the [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) ones I find I can’t do more than 3 sprays or I OD (must be something in my chemistry that amps the P83 as well.) As long as it works, that is the important thing! 🙂