# ICM ...1b oil mix...

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-1b-oil-mix/32892>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [September 29, 2009, 10:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-1b-oil-mix/32892 "2009-09-29T22:35:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 2:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-1b-oil-mix/32892/87 "2009-11-04T02:10:17Z")

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Ya know it’s a shame they don’t have P86, I think P86 could definitely add to this mix since I’ve heard it pairs well with P83 see here: .[P86/P83 = Touch me and Touch me now](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-p83-touch-me-and-touch-me-now/5383)

Also, it seems that the absensce of andrestenone actually makes this mix much better from what I’m reading. This mix could be poster child for how to succesfully create a sex vibe/flirty vibe without andrestenone. Of course I’m talking about this–\>[Petition for an Ammo version with P83 instead of -none](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/petition-for-an-ammo-version-with-p83-instead-of-none/189823)

P83 to me seems like a great andrestenone replacement/ aid. When I’ve combined it with A314 (I use MX116 which is EXCELLENT) I can produce flirty vibes, dirty talk, and if steered correctly, even sex. More evidence of this is here–\>[P79 + P83 with bright shiny mones in the background](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-p83-with-bright-shiny-mones-in-the-background/1176/1)

I’m also curious how P83 adds with [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) and then adds with A314. Seems like an interesting combo…hmmm 😉

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