# ICM: Driven 2 Love additions soon to come! **URL:** \ **Category:** Lounge\ **Created:** [May 28, 2008, 2:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180 "2008-05-28T02:17:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![akamahyar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/97f17d/32.png) [@akamahyar](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/akamahyar)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2008, 3:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/101 "2008-06-18T15:02:14Z")
stevo its like staying in line to get into a club but the bouncer won’t let u in… ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2008, 3:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/102 "2008-06-18T15:59:12Z")
You know continually pesetering him is not going to speed up the release. SteveO is doing what he can to get it out there, but he also has a loyalty to Androtics and in marketing their products. He will release the ICM’s when he can. Your reference to standing in line at a club where the bouncer won’t let you in is off base. You are standing in line at a club that’s still in the process of being built! ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2008, 4:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/103 "2008-06-18T16:12:52Z")
> [@akamahyar](#): > > o any idea when the icm gonna be availble? > [@akamahyar](#): > > stevo its like staying in line to get into a club but the bouncer won’t let u in… Dude, you need to relax. ICM is for advanced users who are socially aware of their surroundings. While I can appreciate your wanting to try it, the pre-release will be for selected members of this forum who meet the qualification process. If the pre-release is successful in testing then it might be another 6-12 months of testing before I actually release it. If you are so impatient that you cant wait 2-3 weeks how in all things Pink and Squishy will you be able to wait 6-12 more months. I have selected a specific list of people to test and they all meet stringent qualifications to do such. Again I really appreciate your enthusiasm, but usually when someone is overly excited about an item they have never tried they are going to be let down by it. ICM is not magic at all, in fact I would say it’s not as good as the MX271 I have been testing. Since MX 271 came out I haven’t picked up ICM once. Thats how much I like MX271. ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2008, 4:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/104 "2008-06-18T16:17:06Z")
> [@akamahyar](#): > > stevo its like staying in line to get into a club but the bouncer won’t let u in… Dude, the basic recipes are posted. a short search will turn them up. The ingredients were in stock the last time I checked. Not only that but Androtics has just released three new MX’s that show every indication of being absurdly good. Nobody wants to keep you or anybody else out of any club here.😃 ---
**Author:** ![richter](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/richter/32/1158_2.png) [@richter](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/richter)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2008, 4:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/105 "2008-06-18T16:23:04Z")
I think people should let the pros test it first because as StevO state they are more qualified to report and developing the product as they see fit. I really appreciate StevO and everyone who he chose to use ICM to pioneer something great for the phero community. Here’s a little quote: “Patience and perserverence have a magical effect before which difficulties disappear and obstacles vanish.”– **John Quincy Adams** ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2008, 4:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/106 "2008-06-18T16:27:07Z")
Nice quote. Two characteristics we seem to be lacking sometimes in our world of almost instant gratification. ---
**Author:** ![tmoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ab992/32.png) [@tmoz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tmoz)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2008, 4:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/107 "2008-06-18T16:39:13Z")
I don’t wanna derail the topic at hand.. but SteveO what’s your opinion about the molecule responsible for the faint sexual mask in MX271? I’m leaning towards a very well buffered 'none, but wouldn’t be surprised at all if it was [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) or even something else (a new putative thrown in?). I ask because if it’s being tested daily, I don’t want any none build-up to skew the results and be mis-construed as the effects of the MX itself. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2008, 5:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/108 "2008-06-18T17:22:39Z")
I think it might be an amped up p83 p79 combo ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2008, 9:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/109 "2008-06-18T21:46:51Z")
There’s a big difference between a product that works good with a small test base, and a product that is good for everybody. Steveo knows this, and that’s why he’s putting in the extra effort to make sure the product meets a certain standard of excellence. Alot of us take foregranted just how well Androtics products really do work well for everybody, regardless of age or genetic background. I think it’s best if everyone just forgot about it for a while, that way once it is ready you won’t have burnt yourself out on waiting. I’m sure it’s going to be great, but truley great things take time to perfect. ---
**Author:** ![akamahyar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/97f17d/32.png) [@akamahyar](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/akamahyar)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2008, 10:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/110 "2008-06-18T22:49:11Z")
> [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > You know continually pesetering him is not going to speed up the release. SteveO is doing what he can to get it out there, but he also has a loyalty to Androtics and in marketing their products. He will release the ICM’s when he can. > > Your reference to standing in line at a club where the bouncer won’t let you in is off base. You are standing in line at a club that’s still in the process of being built! havnt you been in one of those clubs that the bouncers hand-pick the people who can get in? LOL anyways its ok I just thought it would be out sooner for expirement my man. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Luxferre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f6c823/32.png) [@Luxferre](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Luxferre)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 6:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/111 "2008-06-21T18:23:33Z")
Updates!? Trying to hold my order until this comes around \>\< ---
**Author:** ![richter](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/richter/32/1158_2.png) [@richter](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/richter)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 12:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/112 "2008-06-22T00:08:54Z")
> [@SteveO](#): > > If the pre-release is successful in testing then it might be another 6-12 months of testing before I actually release it. You’ll probably want to read up more. ---
**Author:** ![iamstretchypanda](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/iamstretchypanda/32/1228_2.png) [@iamstretchypanda](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/iamstretchypanda)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2008, 6:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/113 "2008-08-06T06:04:19Z")
For someone with experiance with 5 products do you think it would be best to buy each product individually to test them out, then when all the products are assembled mix them in a togo? That seems like the way to go to get the most out of the experience but since im not a pro at mixing maybe its best to let the pro make it for me :]? ---
**Author:** ![Bonecrkr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@Bonecrkr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bonecrkr)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 10:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/114 "2008-10-16T22:22:28Z")
Post deleted by Bonecrkr ---
**Author:** ![dude](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dude/32/2011_2.png) [@dude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dude)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 2:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/115 "2008-10-17T02:22:14Z")
SteveO it would be better if your testers come from different geographical locations . ---
**Author:** ![snake\_o8](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snake_o8/32/1853_2.png) [@snake\_o8](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/snake_o8)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 6:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/116 "2008-10-17T06:35:44Z")
steve0 this post never got updated so… i was wondering what ever happend to this new mix that was soposed to be comming out?? any details would be nice ---
**Author:** ![Hyper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hyper/32/1326_2.png) [@Hyper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hyper)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 8:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/117 "2008-11-19T20:41:18Z")
Yes, Steve update plzzzz 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 8:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/118 "2008-11-19T20:46:10Z")
> [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > Oh quit kissing up to her Boss, she’s never threatened to turn anybody into a salamander! 😉 Ya know Mark, with your current avatar, this very early post about Bella from the beginning of the thread takes on a whole new meaning! ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 8:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/119 "2008-11-19T20:53:11Z")
Thank you for taking interest everybody. The fact of the matter that PRI keeps me very busy and as such, there is barely any time to test mixes let alone anything else massive like this would be. I released the mixes and their components in the future of the phero universe thread, so they are readily available. Truth of the matter is there are much better mixes out waiting to be discovered. All you have to do is test, test, test. Especially with some of the new putatives, a very special tester will be revealing tests on them over Thanksgiving (now you have to, or I’ll reveal your name 😃), this mix will become obsolete. PRI pledges that we want to make the world a better place. Androstenone is bad stuff and from my observations of the testers I chose, the younger ones struggled with it. Sorry, but that is not a well rounded mix if some struggle, others get great results, and others yet even get OK results. Oh and by the way on the original formula I amped the [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) on 1B to 12.5 mcg per spray. I also added 12 mcg TAF and 15 mcg TAK to both mixes. The TAF is great for focus, but the TAK takes some of the edge off the seriousness of the TAF. So there you have it, the two secret ingredients. ---
**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 9:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/120 "2008-11-19T21:07:52Z")
Steve, I don’t mean to pry, but what is PRI? [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180.md?page=5) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180.md?page=7)