# ICM: Driven 2 Love additions soon to come! **URL:** \ **Category:** Lounge\ **Created:** [May 28, 2008, 2:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180 "2008-05-28T02:17:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 9:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/121 "2008-11-19T21:13:00Z")
> [@Robbie](#): > > Steve, I don’t mean to pry, but what is PRI? Well, if an MRI is Magnetic Resonance Imaging. Then A PRI must be Pheromonal Resistance Innocuation? 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 9:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/122 "2008-11-19T21:14:33Z")
none is bad stuff? none, p83 and to an extent rone are the only mones I know that give me a sexual edge. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 9:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/123 "2008-11-19T21:16:48Z")
> [@WildFlower](#): > > none is bad stuff? none, p83 and to an extent rone are the only mones I know that give me a sexual edge. Then you’d like the ICM (b) mixes better. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 10:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/124 "2008-11-19T22:44:27Z")
> [@Robbie](#): > > Steve, I don’t mean to pry, but what is PRI? > [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > Well, if an MRI is Magnetic Resonance Imaging. > > Then > > A PRI must be Pheromonal Resistance Innocuation? 🙄 LOL 😃 ooopsy its a Steve slip-up. PRI is an internal name Androtics has been tossing around. We have been gently transitioning into more of a research institute, even more so than we are. PRI, now that the cat is out of the bag, stands for [Pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) Research Institute. ---
**Author:** ![iamstretchypanda](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/iamstretchypanda/32/1228_2.png) [@iamstretchypanda](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/iamstretchypanda)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 10:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/125 "2008-11-19T22:56:19Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > LOL 😃 ooopsy its a Steve slip-up. PRI is an internal name Androtics has been tossing around. We have been gently transitioning into more of a research institute, even more so than we are. PRI, now that the cat is out of the bag, stands for Pheromone Research Institute. Everything you’ve said has been spot on from the testing i’ve done. I prefer the ICM B mix. I add 2.5 mcg of p75 per spray and doubled the p83 for good results. The only time i will add in none is if i have alot of sexual trust built up (i.e. girl is ok with me removing pants etc). Anyways glad you revealed the secret ingrediants. Hope more breakthrous are made soon :] ---
**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 11:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/126 "2008-11-19T23:13:57Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > LOL 😃 ooopsy its a Steve slip-up. PRI is an internal name Androtics has been tossing around. We have been gently transitioning into more of a research institute, even more so than we are. PRI, now that the cat is out of the bag, stands for Pheromone Research Institute. You actually mentioned PRI another time and though I was curious, I didn’t want to bug you about what it meant. This time, my curiosity got the best of me. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 3:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/127 "2008-11-20T15:51:21Z")
> [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > Well, if an MRI is Magnetic Resonance Imaging. > > Then > > A PRI must be Pheromonal Resistance Innocuation? 🙄 OK I couldn’t help myself. I tried to get Google to define Innocuation. It’s from the salamander root word meaning “squishy footprints”. Just thought I would pass that on. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 5:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/128 "2008-11-20T17:27:55Z")
> [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > Then you’d like the ICM (b) mixes better. b or 1b? I’d love to try one of the mixes but I don’t (yet) own beta nol or p93 (although both will be my next order). I have the other pheromones as individual sprays of various mcgs. Do you mix it into an empty bottle or is it cool to just apply the correct dosage of each out of the individual bottles when you want the mix? I find p83 a little different to none in that it doesn’t create the same sexual presence although it does still seem to be sexual. It’s the fact that woman can also wear it that puts me of me replacing none with it. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 1:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/129 "2008-11-21T01:13:01Z")
> [@WildFlower](#): > > b or 1b? I’d love to try one of the mixes but I don’t (yet) own beta nol or p93 (although both will be my next order). I have the other pheromones as individual sprays of various mcgs. Do you mix it into an empty bottle or is it cool to just apply the correct dosage of each out of the individual bottles when you want the mix? Well, there’s the ICM 0.25.05b which has Alphanol, and the ICM 0.25.1b which has Betanol. I have not made or used the 05a or 05b mixes, only the 1a and 1b, which are both great. I mixed them together in a bottle, but I think you’d be ok with spraying them on seperately to see if you like the results. Although, it may not be quite the same is if you mixed them together. ---
**Author:** ![igotabanana4u](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/igotabanana4u/32/1978_2.png) [@igotabanana4u](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/igotabanana4u)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 1:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/130 "2008-11-21T13:38:00Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > Truth of the matter is there are much better mixes out waiting to be discovered. All you have to do is test, test, test. Especially with some of the new putatives, a very special tester will be revealing tests on them over Thanksgiving (now you have to, or I’ll reveal your name 😃), this mix will become obsolete. well thanks steve for offering this info up. but this now begs the question as to what mix’s and putatives you are refering to. and if you"re not willing to come outright and tell could you atleast steer us in the right direction? any insight would help. ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 2:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/131 "2008-11-21T14:56:05Z")
> [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > Well, there’s the ICM 0.25.05b which has Alphanol, and the ICM 0.25.1b which has Betanol. I have not made or used the 05a or 05b mixes, only the 1a and 1b, which are both great. > > I mixed them together in a bottle, but I think you’d be ok with spraying them on seperately to see if you like the results. Although, it may not be quite the same is if you mixed them together. Thanks Mark. This is the mix I’m most interested in: > [@](#): > > **ICM 0.25.1b** > [TAA](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/) 4 mcg per spray > Beta Androstenol 5 mcg per spray > [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) 3 mcg per spray > [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) 5 mcg per spray > [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) 5 mcg per spray I was thinking of getting them all in togo bottles then adding them into a large 30ml bottle but the store only ofers 5mcg per spray in the 30ml size not togo’s. 4mcg and 3mcg per spray aren’t options either so it would look like I’d have to get pipettes out or something. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 3:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/132 "2008-11-21T15:10:20Z")
Not a problem, but before you jump the gun, you need to realize that if you get them the molecules at 5 mcg strength and mix them together, it is going to take a lot of sprays to get the right levels. I.E., 5 bottles of molecules at 5 mcg strength mixed together is going to give you a per spray dose of 1 mcg per molecule, and require you to use 5 times the number of sprays. If you were to get them at 25 mcg’s per spray and use the entire bottles of Betanol, P74 and [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/), then use pipettes to add 4 ML’s of the TAA and 3 ML’s of the P93, you mix would duplicate the original strength. Also, as Steve mentioned he did up the P83 dose from 5 mcg’s to 12.5 mcg’s and it does add to the impact. If you were to get the P83 at 62.5 mcg that would give you a close approximation to the tweaked mix. ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 4:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/133 "2008-11-21T16:00:07Z")
> [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > Then you’d like the ICM (b) mixes better. Well, with the rumour of Steve’s pherobomb on the horizon, would that be an ICBM mix 😉 Sorry, couldn’t help it, Shine testing!! ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 4:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/134 "2008-11-21T16:49:19Z")
> [@igotabanana4u](#): > > well thanks steve for offering this info up. but this now begs the question as to what mix’s and putatives you are refering to. and if you"re not willing to come outright and tell could you atleast steer us in the right direction? > > any insight would help. They have already been released completely and freely in the Pheromone Universe thread 😉 ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 6:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/135 "2008-11-21T18:54:54Z")
> [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > Not a problem, but before you jump the gun, you need to realize that if you get them the molecules at 5 mcg strength and mix them together, it is going to take a lot of sprays to get the right levels. > > I.E., 5 bottles of molecules at 5 mcg strength mixed together is going to give you a per spray dose of 1 mcg per molecule, and require you to use 5 times the number of sprays. > > If you were to get them at 25 mcg’s per spray and use the entire bottles of Betanol, P74 and P83, then use pipettes to add 4 ML’s of the TAA and 3 ML’s of the P93, you mix would duplicate the original strength. > > Also, as Steve mentioned he did up the P83 dose from 5 mcg’s to 12.5 mcg’s and it does add to the impact. If you were to get the P83 at 62.5 mcg that would give you a close approximation to the tweaked mix. woops, I’m a n00b. Offcourse it will be 1mcg per spray not 5mcg if I mix them all :o. How many sprays of the mix do you use? 50mcg of p74 and 35mcg of p83 are my sweet spots when using solo but that will obviously change when theres 5 pheromones in the mix. I’m gonna try p83, p74 and TAA tonight to get a feel. p74 goes great with TAA, I often use them with Turn up the heat. I love p83 but I’ve never tested it with p74 before so it should be interesting. I’m gonna feel a little inadequate with out none at first though. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 7:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/136 "2008-11-21T19:12:42Z")
I genreally wear 4 or 5 sprays of the 1b mix. I have also worn the 1a and 1b together and had good results, as well as wearing the 1b mix with None as well. The P74, [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) and TAA should give you good results. If you have TAF you might try adding a bit of that as well, to provide a bit of added focus to the combo. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 8:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/137 "2008-11-21T20:21:48Z")
Wildflower, don’t forget that Mark and I are older than you by double! Start out with maybe three and work from there. ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 2:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/138 "2008-11-22T02:19:24Z")
I keep hammering away at 1a, and yeah, it just doesn’t click very well with me. Only and oddball hit here or there. I did have some success mixing it with a large helping of IO. I’m thinking it’s just not my style. maybe it’s the TAF or TAK. I’d never tried TAF prior… C’est la vie ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 3:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/139 "2008-11-22T15:48:48Z")
MartyK, yours and the other testers feedback was vital to me in making some decisions. I wanted a cross range of testers and got some great feedback. Thanks to everyone who helped. ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 5:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180/140 "2008-11-25T17:40:55Z")
So I want to get togos all in 25mcg strength other than p83 which I should 62.5 mcg. Do you recommend me getting them all neroli? It will be pretty expensive mix but I should get paid at the end of this week and I want to try other social/sexual mixes other than ammo and buffered turn up the heat. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180.md?page=6) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-driven-2-love-additions-soon-to-come/13180.md?page=8)