# IDK out on 'mones **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [January 13, 2012, 9:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/idk-out-on-mones/54200 "2012-01-13T09:54:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![idontknow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d2c977/32.png) [@idontknow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/idontknow)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 9:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/idk-out-on-mones/54200/1 "2012-01-13T09:54:40Z")
**Welcome to my journal!** If you want to know a little more about me, read my introduction: [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/you-soaked-me-in/53820/7](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/you-soaked-me-in/53820) ---
**Author:** ![idontknow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d2c977/32.png) [@idontknow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/idontknow)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 9:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/idk-out-on-mones/54200/2 "2012-01-13T09:58:07Z")
_Reserved for **'mone and mix ratings at certain dosages**._ ---
**Author:** ![idontknow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d2c977/32.png) [@idontknow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/idontknow)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 10:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/idk-out-on-mones/54200/3 "2012-01-13T10:05:38Z")
Love the **A314**. Seems to be very complex in effects, but it’s so soothing on my mind. Makes me carefree, confident. Self effects are awesome. 1 drop A314 (applied to my ears) + some social and some sexual mix. Also applied 3 drops Methyl Ether Estetraenol at 1mg/ml in DPG (~60-80mcg). (Not Meo-none, but Meo-nol, which seems to make guys your friends and girls accept your presence). Went for a drink with a date. Got her number that weekend in a club. Called her the next day, to arrange the date. Kept text-pinging her. She’s a bit older than me, i’d say an 8 in looks. Probably not the most exciting girl personality-wise. So after about one hour talk, we made out. No resistence, would have expected at least one block, as she is a bit shyer. Proposed we should watch some photos at my place. We got over, she sat on the bed. Told her: “This is going much too fast.” But i couldn’t seem serious. We made out, but when i was on her privates she gave me resistance. Though only after like 10 seconds. Not 100% sure, but guess she was already somewhat wet. So she was a bit indecisive and finally her ASD triggered. Went to the toilet for a freezeout. Though when reescalating ASD triggered at the same point again. Should have done some more and longer freezouts and more alpha game. Though my creativity lacked. Also this wasn’t easy, considering there wasn’t much comfort. Could date her again, but IDK she wasn’t so much my type and i guess she’s after a relationship. Conclusion: The self confidence from the A314 is very attractive. Gives me social suaveness. Also the barmaid gave me some nice smiles and my date seemed to be intrigued. She looked like a little schoolgirl at times. Felt like i had more social status, wearing the A314. The A314 is quickly becoming one of my favorite mixes. Probably will try it some more in a club, today. ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 4:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/idk-out-on-mones/54200/4 "2012-01-13T16:47:28Z")
This is a nice report, I’m keeping a journal as well and focusing more on PU mixes right now, maybe we can learn from each other. I’ll be subscribing to your journal. Do you think your date needed more comfort in order to go for the pull? I find A314 very serious as a self effect. Keep reporting please 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![idontknow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d2c977/32.png) [@idontknow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/idontknow)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2012, 11:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/idk-out-on-mones/54200/5 "2012-01-14T11:28:09Z")
Hey still18. IMO highly likely it was a lack of comfort. I believe i felt that she was already a bit wet and also all other signs pointed to more than enough attraction. Later she told me that she would love to see me again but that i have to move things more slowly. Texted her back some anti-ASD message. And she kept insisting to move things more slowly. So she basically screams for more comfort, IMO. IDK if i’ll date her again. A314 self-effects are great. Apparently my A314 smells like some liquid glue, though. Quite unpleasant. Effects are top-notch, though. ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2012, 11:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/idk-out-on-mones/54200/6 "2012-01-14T11:38:21Z")
OK, I see, I’ve been in these kinda situations a few times, have you tried IH or [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) yet? Could help with defenses or LMR. ---
**Author:** ![idontknow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d2c977/32.png) [@idontknow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/idontknow)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2012, 2:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/idk-out-on-mones/54200/7 "2012-01-14T14:51:50Z")
Got p83. Yep. Probably would have helped. Though maybe there would have been buyer’s remorse afterwards. Currently i’m not so much after one night stands, i mean why take the peach, when you can get the peachtree 😃 Though i also don’t want to invest much time into a relationship. So i’m basically looking for a friend with benefits or FB. Anyways, therefore i want to be aware of buyer’s remorse. ---
**Author:** ![idontknow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d2c977/32.png) [@idontknow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/idontknow)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 5:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/idk-out-on-mones/54200/8 "2012-01-18T17:48:15Z")
Here goes my weekend-report: **'mones** **2 drops A314** behind the ears and to my neck + 3 drops Methyl Ether Estetraenol (same app points). The Methyl Ether Est-nol mostly hits on guys, girls seem to accept you more. Though not much in terms of attraction or comfort. So those are mostly A314-hits. **Self-effects** Self-effect was that i felt like a rock, nothing could hit me. Free of stress and anxiety rock-solid ego, not over the top. Just inner peace. Actually i do like getting a huge over-the-top ego, though 'mones just give me that in combination with alcohol. That night i didn’t drink much, so i didn’t get my “approach the whole club”-ego. **Evening** Been to a somewhat better club, meeting my friends (four girls, one guy). They were in a bar before that. And i picked them up there and we got to the club. Not much hits, as i suppose my app point was still very cold from the weather outside. When we heated ourselves in the club, hits got better. Apparently A314 gives off a bit of a **big-daddy vibe.** One girls said: “IDK will watch after us, if something would happen.” Guys reacted very positively. I approached two girls that night, both reacted very positively, even though my approaches were far from perfect. I’ve probably done a good 120-150 sets in the last 1 1/2 years and those two that night definitely seemed to open very well with the A314 on. Anyways my game lacked, the club was very small, many girls out of my age range, some other guys seemed to have great PU skills and so i called it a night empty handedly. **Conclusion** A314 at 2 drops seems to let me open sets more easily, seems to give off a protective alpha-daddy-vibe and generally makes girls react more positively towards me, as if i knew what i was doing. There were some effect, but i’ll probably go for more drops, or add TUTH to get some stronger reactions. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 9:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/idk-out-on-mones/54200/9 "2012-01-18T21:41:16Z")
Liking it! I would say on your NY resolutions, to make a road-map on how you plan to achieve each one. Its one thing to write them down, its another to do it. If everytime you do something you ask yourself will this get me closer or further from your goals, you’d be amazed at the things you didn’t do. Either way I like the journal and looking forward to reading more 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![idontknow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d2c977/32.png) [@idontknow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/idontknow)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2012, 11:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/idk-out-on-mones/54200/10 "2012-01-23T11:45:21Z")
Feeling a bit tired right now. Could write a few more reports from the last few days, but really i’ll make it short and just mention the important stuff. Also had 2 semi-successful dates, 2 times LMR this week. **Pre-party** Pre-party at my place, 6 or so girls and one married guy. Everyone got drunk quickly. Wore **10-30mcg P79** (hard to dose, because of the high concentration), **60mcg [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/)**, **10mcg P97** , 30 mcg DIY Androstenetrione. The other guy arrived at the party. He didn’t know me and literally jumped into my arms, like in an embrace, while i was twirling him around. Bromance from the first second on and for the whole evening Probably a HUGE hit. One girl at the party started flirty Kino with me, gave me all the signals to go for a close, confused words and made lots of sexual innuendos. She seemed very sexual, carefree, in the moment, a lot more than usual. Everyone at the party seemed to get that vibe, though she stood out a little. Probably because she was a little closer to me/application points during the evening, as she’s one of my closer friends. Got to the club, played around with a few more Ps, but didn’t get really much out of it. The night went really well though. Effects of the Ps seemed to mostly fade after around 3-4 hours after application. Also tested P80 for self effects. Nice energy boost for like 1 hour or a bit longer at 20mcg. **Conclusion** The combo i wore felt nice and social, probably gave me some extra attention, but very likely extra attraction. Girls seemed to get more sexually overt. The one guy seemed to love it. Probably experienced the “disinhibition”-effect i’ve read about from P83. Effects were definitely noticeable and strong, but not over the top. edit: Thanks for the road-map idea, Steve! Talking about it and getting it done are two different pair of shoes. Though formulating a plan on how to reach those goals will get me at least one step closer to reaching these. When i got some spare time, i’ll definitely work on it! ---
**Author:** ![idontknow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d2c977/32.png) [@idontknow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/idontknow)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2012, 4:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/idk-out-on-mones/54200/11 "2012-07-09T04:34:56Z")
[Molecule C](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-c/) aka **TAC** arrived today from AD @20mcg/spray. Probably applied like 2-3 drops, which may be around **2-3 mcg**. WTF! This stuff is crazy. **Touching feels more intense, increased music appreciation, got an occasional visual zooming/blurring effect.** It reminds me quite a bit of that electro-raver-hippy stuff… This could be THE club-phero. Dancing with una chica with that beast on could be great. I’ve tested quite a few molecules already. The only things that gave me self-effects comparable in strength was DHEAS at like 150mcg. (Totally different effects, though). Other molecules are totally subtle in comparison, while ‘C’ is not subtle at all. The neroli-scent is not bad. Quite pleasant. ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2012, 7:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/idk-out-on-mones/54200/12 "2012-07-09T07:03:35Z")
TAC: Very Good Stuff!!! 😃 Let us know what happens when you wear it around las chicas! Exelente! 1Alpha > [@idontknow](#): > > Molecule C aka **TAC** arrived today from AD @20mcg/spray. Probably applied like 2-3 drops, which may be around **2-3 mcg**. > > WTF! This stuff is crazy. **Touching feels more intense, increased music appreciation, got an occasional visual zooming/blurring effect.** It reminds me quite a bit of that electro-raver-hippy stuff… This could be THE club-phero. Dancing with una chica with that beast on could be great. > > I’ve tested quite a few molecules already. The only things that gave me self-effects comparable in strength was DHEAS at like 150mcg. (Totally different effects, though). Other molecules are totally subtle in comparison, while ‘C’ is not subtle at all. > > The neroli-scent is not bad. Quite pleasant. ---
**Author:** ![idontknow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d2c977/32.png) [@idontknow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/idontknow)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 3:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/idk-out-on-mones/54200/13 "2012-07-10T03:38:41Z")
**TAC residuals.** Chatted with a girl on a dating site. I got totally into her. Had strong feelings for her, which is rare for me. We talked on the phone and i got freakily nervous at some point. The nervousness lasted for hours. * * * **TAC@ 4-20mcg**. Also some residual none and a social/sexual mix that could probably go along the lines of a IO/IS/[Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) combo, but is not from AD. Now i really was in a rush and left my glasses on, didn’t style my hair and wore a lilac polo. Looks totally DO MATTER in clubs and i looked really nerdy, lol. At least i felt it threw me off a bit. Was with 2 girls and one had her BF with her. The other girl would talk talk talk to me, for probably 10 minutes straight. She wouldn’t even let me interrupt her. I felt like she wanted to explain herself to me, as she didn’t have that great of a job. **Self-effects** So we arrived at the club and got on the floor. The TAC self-effects on me were much less than the first time. Though this is a usual pattern for me, that i have seen with many many pheros that contained novel molecules. Still with a TAC reapp i really could feel the music getting into me. Like it’s not just the music and you dance to it, but the music is in you and makes you move. Quite cool effect. **Hits** I’ve seen the same thing from my friends. More TAC and i believe i could see how they were really diving into the beats, lol. Not moving more/prettier, but feeling it more and differently. Opened a few girls and generally got mediocre reactions. No hard rejects, but only one girl would really get closer. And then she asked me if i have any pills, lol. Other girls gave me soft rejects. I felt like most were somewhat interested, but not enough. Those were dancefloor-approaches into groups of girls, which usually isn’t all that easy, lol. Tried to kiss another girl off the floor straight away that gave me some sweet looks, but she was very amused and moved away. At some point the girl (not hot) who was with us gave me blatant IOI after blatant IOI. Isolating me, grinding her bodily features against me. I’d say this probably was mostly a none hit, but that girl probably was also looking for a guy. Had to diplomatically remove myself. TAC may have played a role, but i’ve quite often seen similar hits without. The other girl with the BF kino’d me hardcore and started to neglect her BF. Made me feel bad for him and i had to work hard to keep my distance to her. I’ve seen that a few times with other mixes, but it was a little more extreme with TAC. Guys probably were a little bit nicer with TAC, but really not much. When the other mix wore off (i couldn’t smell it anymore), i generally got bitchy reactions from stranger girls. I still had a very light neroli smell on me at that time. I’d assume the staying power of TAC to be a good 2 hours out of and a probably an hour in a sweaty club. Depends on the definition but after that, hits get subtle. **Conclusion** TAC may not do much on it’s own. But if you establish a connection or emotions i’d say it will enhance it. Especially if you get physical. Though i guess that’s common knowledge about TAC. ---
**Author:** ![idontknow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d2c977/32.png) [@idontknow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/idontknow)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 1:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/idk-out-on-mones/54200/14 "2012-07-24T13:38:07Z")
Initial thoughts on MX353: > [@The OFFICIAL MX353 Discussion Thread](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/26): > > This is from trying MX353 once at daytime @ 1 (togo-) spray. So I put the spray on before getting some breakfest at the bakery shop. First impression of the scent is that it is really almost overpowering. It’s very very strong and aftershave-like. The woman in the shop asked: ‘Leather shoes?’. Probably she meant if I put some chemicals on them. Though once the scent started to die down, hits picked up. Self-effects were pretty good, as in you getting into a upbeat, go-get’em mood. When I arri…