# If a higher up told you that you can only have five products... **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 6, 2010, 5:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-a-higher-up-told-you-that-you-can-only-have-five-products/42378 "2010-10-06T05:59:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Holmes](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/holmes/32/2128_2.png) [@Holmes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Holmes)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 1:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-a-higher-up-told-you-that-you-can-only-have-five-products/42378/42 "2011-01-11T01:54:08Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > OK so let me get this right? You’re suggesting that you haven’t been able to come up with the one you like the most? So I’m indecisive. Sue me. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 4:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-a-higher-up-told-you-that-you-can-only-have-five-products/42378/43 "2011-01-11T04:07:26Z")
> [@Holmes](#): > > So I’m indecisive. Sue me. That’ll be 2 bits, please! What’s good, Signor Holmes? Just wanted to push you a hello. **HELLO!** 😉 ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 3:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-a-higher-up-told-you-that-you-can-only-have-five-products/42378/44 "2011-01-11T15:30:31Z")
It’s been a few months with lots more testing. I’ve changed my mind. a314 P96 (So far the most impressive bonding molecule I have used.) P83 (It’s just not fair. It’s like a backdoor. You get to skip the boring parts.) [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) (If you haven’t tried it, you should.) IJ (For some reason this just works well with me. It’s just cool and powerful. I’m actually a lot more relaxed when wearing IJ. I don’t feel like kicking puppies) I have found those products to be the most effective and consistent. IJ is in close race with p79. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 6:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-a-higher-up-told-you-that-you-can-only-have-five-products/42378/45 "2011-01-11T18:03:00Z")
> [@JosieW](#): > > It’s been a few months with lots more testing. I’ve changed my mind. > > a314 > P96 (So far the most impressive bonding molecule I have used.) > P83 (It’s just not fair. It’s like a backdoor. You get to skip the boring parts.) > P75 (If you haven’t tried it, you should.) > IJ (For some reason this just works well with me. It’s just cool and powerful. I’m actually a lot more relaxed when wearing IJ. I don’t feel like kicking puppies) > > I have found those products to be the most effective and consistent. IJ is in close race with p79. Curious to know, at what mcgs and number of sprays your results are based on, JW? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 8:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-a-higher-up-told-you-that-you-can-only-have-five-products/42378/46 "2011-01-11T20:10:17Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > Curious to know, at what mcgs and number of sprays your results are based on, JW? > > Thanks! Ha! You and your details. Allow me to romanticize (Is this a word?) if you will. A314- I have found to be extremely effective at 1 drop. Meaning little to no resistance. 2 drops is just reinforcement. 3-4 drops invites passive aggression, shit testing, etc. At 5 drops it seems to override conscious thought in some people. Over 5 drops it seems to lose effectiveness and efficiency, because either the targets can’t think for themselves at all or they are in complete rebellion. For me I found that it takes some serious congruency at 6-7 drops. Not necessarily a suit and tie either. I found jeans and boots with a mean t-shirt to be more effective. Again that was what was congruent for me. P96- I compare this mone to A1. It seems to have all of the positive qualities multiplied, without the negatives. It affects men and women. Works on LTR’s and strangers. Saw some increased possesiveness from my wife with this one. Lot’s of touching and desire to be near me and touch me even when angry. It’s not just comfort. It’s security. 37.5mcg worked best for me. I had a 12.5 mcg spray togo. I did notice effects at 25 mcg’s. So it may not need to be as high as 37.5, but I can’t test. P83- 30 mcgs. Anything more for me begins to weigh me down. At 30 mcgs I got nice slow arousals eventually peaking into the provactative and shock. I know that we mention that P83 is a disinhibitor, but I don’t think it disinhibits everything. I think it allows for a person to become so open to arousal that they begin to seek fulfillment. Things are said and done in response to the arousal level. It appears to work on an area of the brain below consciousness. In other words the target has no clue that they are becoming aroused or why. And they don’t realize that they are acting on the arousal. P75- Extremely effective at 2.5mcgs. I have tested it up to 20 mcgs. It kicks down doors at 7.5mcgs for me. At 10 mcgs it started to exhibit some psychedelic properties in both visual and auditory senses. Meaning what I heard and saw created pleasure. P75 is more like a drug than what I would think a [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) would be for me. I had a hard time putting this one down. I believe it may also increase fear, alertness, or wariness in targets. IJ- OK so here is the tricky one. I saw no difference between 1-3 sprays. I saw no aggression. I did see fear at some points. That seems to be an effective sexual stimulant. IJ always gets me the cool guy friendliness from other males and women bump into me a lot. I feel comfortable and things just don’t bother me. I do have to be careful when picking or joking on people. So there may be some level of cocky aggression in me when I wear it. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 11:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-a-higher-up-told-you-that-you-can-only-have-five-products/42378/47 "2011-01-11T23:12:26Z")
> [@JosieW](#): > > Ha! You and your details. Allow me to romanticize (Is this a word?) if you will. > > A314- I have found to be extremely effective at 1 drop. Meaning little to no resistance. 2 drops is just reinforcement. 3-4 drops invites passive aggression, shit testing, etc. At 5 drops it seems to override conscious thought in some people. Over 5 drops it seems to lose effectiveness and efficiency, because either the targets can’t think for themselves at all or they are in complete rebellion. For me I found that it takes some serious congruency at 6-7 drops. Not necessarily a suit and tie either. I found jeans and boots with a mean t-shirt to be more effective. Again that was what was congruent for me. > > P96- I compare this mone to A1. It seems to have all of the positive qualities multiplied, without the negatives. It affects men and women. Works on LTR’s and strangers. Saw some increased possesiveness from my wife with this one. Lot’s of touching and desire to be near me and touch me even when angry. It’s not just comfort. It’s security. 37.5mcg worked best for me. I had a 12.5 mcg spray togo. I did notice effects at 25 mcg’s. So it may not need to be as high as 37.5, but I can’t test. > > P83- 30 mcgs. Anything more for me begins to weigh me down. At 30 mcgs I got nice slow arousals eventually peaking into the provactative and shock. I know that we mention that P83 is a disinhibitor, but I don’t think it disinhibits everything. I think it allows for a person to become so open to arousal that they begin to seek fulfillment. Things are said and done in response to the arousal level. It appears to work on an area of the brain below consciousness. In other words the target has no clue that they are becoming aroused or why. And they don’t realize that they are acting on the arousal. > > P75- Extremely effective at 2.5mcgs. I have tested it up to 20 mcgs. It kicks down doors at 7.5mcgs for me. At 10 mcgs it started to exhibit some psychedelic properties in both visual and auditory senses. Meaning what I heard and saw created pleasure. P75 is more like a drug than what I would think a pheromone would be for me. I had a hard time putting this one down. I believe it may also increase fear, alertness, or wariness in targets. > > IJ- OK so here is the tricky one. I saw no difference between 1-3 sprays. I saw no aggression. I did see fear at some points. That seems to be an effective sexual stimulant. IJ always gets me the cool guy friendliness from other males and women bump into me a lot. I feel comfortable and things just don’t bother me. I do have to be careful when picking or joking on people. So there may be some level of cocky aggression in me when I wear it. Now, that’s what I’m talking 'bout! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 12:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-a-higher-up-told-you-that-you-can-only-have-five-products/42378/48 "2011-01-12T00:09:48Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > Now, that’s what I’m talking 'bout! 😉 Wow, someone actually took time to write all the details! Great! ---
**Author:** ![Holmes](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/holmes/32/2128_2.png) [@Holmes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Holmes)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 6:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-a-higher-up-told-you-that-you-can-only-have-five-products/42378/49 "2011-01-12T18:07:55Z")
Where were you applying to [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/)? > [@JosieW](#): > > At 5 drops it seems to override conscious thought in some people. Could you elaborate? ---
**Author:** ![henk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/henk/32/5189_2.png) [@henk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/henk)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 1:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-a-higher-up-told-you-that-you-can-only-have-five-products/42378/50 "2011-02-25T01:34:40Z")
1. A314 2. Ammo 3. Tuth ---
**Author:** ![Gotchaz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@Gotchaz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gotchaz)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 5:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-a-higher-up-told-you-that-you-can-only-have-five-products/42378/51 "2011-02-25T17:32:09Z")
1: A314 I love this stuff makes me feel great, regardless of the effects on others it’s a must have. 2: IO I’m kind of the strong silent type and this stuff is golden for me. I can start a conversation and then let them ramble on without having to put much more effort in then the actual engagement. 3: Ammo girls seems to love this stuff. Sometimes it makes me a bit light headed but that’s because you’re always smelling it. Get lot’s of compliments and really goes hand in hand with IO. 4: TUTH I noticed not many say this one but try it with A314 and watch the sparks fly, enough said. 5: IH I haven’t really worked to much with this one, I see a lot of people having it on their list. What I have seen is that you can get very honest remarks good or bad which in itself makes it fun. Curious tho why IH over IO? Is IH better for attraction? Opps I forgot IS I guess it’s a toss up between IH and IS for some reason IS makes me antsy but people around me are always a buzz. IS kind of makes you that guy people always want to hang with. I just wish the self effects was different for me. ---
**Author:** ![kevindill](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kevindill/32/1429_2.png) [@kevindill](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kevindill)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 6:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-a-higher-up-told-you-that-you-can-only-have-five-products/42378/52 "2011-02-25T18:39:09Z")
A314- this would be the one if I was only allowed one I-shine IG The other two would be products from another company that I’m not sure is allowed here ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2011, 7:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-a-higher-up-told-you-that-you-can-only-have-five-products/42378/53 "2011-02-26T07:30:39Z")
surprised, no one mentioned any of the mixes from the UF test pack… ---
**Author:** ![cjw255](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/45deac/32.png) [@cjw255](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cjw255)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 5:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-a-higher-up-told-you-that-you-can-only-have-five-products/42378/54 "2011-04-22T05:09:50Z")
Currently but I’m sure it will change soon always trying new stuff ammo- work GREAT IO- works well, so does IH IJ- haven’t noticed any negative effects yet currently trying p78 20 mcg and seeing mild results. I’ll prolly write something when I get back. I have a314a, but I hate the smell…smells like rubbing alcohol so haven’t tried it much. I want to try mx301, 302, p96 and others but none are available. A1 I’d like to try but technically am already through Dial body wash but wouldn’t mind the full blown stuff, but might buy some at LS Right now ammo is my fav cause it works in a supermarket I get plenty of attention and its easy especially with IO. I’d like something sexual, and I haven’t noticed much but thats prolly more me then the pheros trying a higher dose of 83 and mx390 soon ---
**Author:** ![Nycteris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8c91f0/32.png) [@Nycteris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nycteris)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 5:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-a-higher-up-told-you-that-you-can-only-have-five-products/42378/55 "2011-04-22T05:13:57Z")
A314 CTTM2 IJ Ammo(game) MX292 ---
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 5:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-a-higher-up-told-you-that-you-can-only-have-five-products/42378/56 "2011-04-22T05:31:33Z")
Id spray on of p75,p90, A314 and tell him to go fuck himself. ---
**Author:** ![lifeisgood7](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lifeisgood7/32/1834_2.png) [@lifeisgood7](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lifeisgood7)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2011, 10:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-a-higher-up-told-you-that-you-can-only-have-five-products/42378/57 "2011-04-24T22:02:33Z")
314, 314, 314, 314, and ummmmmmmm 314 [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-a-higher-up-told-you-that-you-can-only-have-five-products/42378.md?page=2)