# If anything is working, it seems it might just be self-effects.. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 17, 2010, 3:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-anything-is-working-it-seems-it-might-just-be-self-effects/36312 "2010-02-17T03:53:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 2\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Wolfishgrin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfishgrin/32/1082_2.png) [@Wolfishgrin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfishgrin)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 5:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-anything-is-working-it-seems-it-might-just-be-self-effects/36312/21 "2010-08-18T17:29:20Z")
P51Mustang made a VERY good post down there. Well thought out… And about some of the people working for Androtics… Tisha23 (I believe, I apologize if I’m wrong) might work for them, but her points are still valid and very informative. She knows the successes many people have had with these products. It could be said that maybe you work for a competing company and want to smear Androtics and their products. 🙄 I don’t work for Androtics, but I vouch for their products because I notice the difference from back when I never wore them. Some days, when I am not wearing mones, everyone that was subject to days when I wore IJ or MX347 find me very approachable. Like the other day. I wore MX347 to work. A really good looking server made all sorts of excuses that she was really busy and couldn’t talk. But then I didn’t wear any the next day, just as busy, and she took time to come and chat me up. She even gave me a compliment that I’m sure was intended to show interest in me. 😉 The effect these products have on my kids are very pronounced. In fact, the days I wear mones and walk into my sons’ classroom and the days I don’t show that there really is something there. Now, women between 18-26 are a different story. They hide their reactions very well because they fear, as everyone else does, rejection. Until they get to know you a bit more they tend not to show many IOI’s besides hair flipping and whatnot. Until they know you’re interested in them, the best you might catch them at is when you purse your lips and furrow your brow to look at the schedule they handed you and they stare avidly at your mouth like they want to kiss you and start messing with their hair to get your attention (This happened to me at work. And I made the wrong move and fucked the whole thing up. This wasn’t the mones fault. The mones were very likely the reason she slipped and let her interest be known that much. I learned from that mistake - maybe not in time to salvage anything with that HB10 but I now know better for the future.) If you don’t put in the effort and talk with others then you’ll never notice the difference with and without the mones. It’s been said its only 10-20% the mones, the rest is up to you. But in some instances I’ve noticed the mones influence the outcome up to 40% or so. It’s subjective to the individual being affected. Lets say you’re wearing mones, and as you’re passing a drop-dead gorgeous girl she stops dead in her tracks and looks back at you with a look that speaks volumes about her interest. Lets say you notice the reaction, but do nothing. Because of that, it went nowhere. That’s not the product at fault. It was your inaction. Really, if you don’t want to be a consumer of Androtics products anymore, that’s your prerogative. There are many other users of their products that are very satisfied with them and will continue to shop and use their products in the years to come. ---
**Author:** ![khthelegend](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/khthelegend/32/1057_2.png) [@khthelegend](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/khthelegend)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 6:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-anything-is-working-it-seems-it-might-just-be-self-effects/36312/22 "2010-08-18T18:09:55Z")
You can want refund 🙂 or Change your product without using too much of it, with another one using it doesnt work for me option. although i have never make an option like this yet, im sure AD will help you in this way. i suggest you to use mones at least 1 week , maybe you are wrong. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-anything-is-working-it-seems-it-might-just-be-self-effects/36312.md?page=1)