# If it helps you too, great... **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [February 26, 2008, 5:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-it-helps-you-too-great/9451 "2008-02-26T05:58:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 11:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-it-helps-you-too-great/9451/81 "2008-05-12T23:26:29Z")
> [@zeph](#): > > Have you tried Melatonin? You can get melatonin tablets at Costco or any pharmacy. Over the counter, it’s a hormone your body naturally produces by the pineal gland to help regulate your sleep cycles. It works pretty well and there is no addictive or reliance on it, so you can safely use it. No I haven’t. Is it like a natural sleeping pill? Or how do I use it? Eh, I’ll Google it, I shouldn’t be so lazy and I’m not doing much right now anyways. I’ll give it a look. Thanks Zeph. ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 6:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-it-helps-you-too-great/9451/82 "2008-05-14T18:13:51Z")
Quick, short update. 30 mcgs of TAF, 37.5mcgs of p74, 2 sprays of IH. Slightly less personal space, like, a co-worker and I were scanned documents and both standing. She kinda squatted after a while to rest her legs so I slid her a stool. She grabbed the stool and placed it nearer to me than she was before. I pointed her earrings out. She smiled and asked if I had read what it said. I just said yea. If you’re curious the earrings said ‘LOVE’. Another co-worker showed lots of IOIs, but all IOIs that might be appropriate in a business setting. Hair smoothing, clothes fixing. Maybe part of the reason was that she was standing in front of me, whereas I was sitting down and she felt exposed standing like that and wanted to present herself as best as she could? Or it was ‘let’s communicate’ signaling? I don’t know, but people certainly didn’t hesitate to ask questions yesterday. People kinda wanted to hang around to talk. Gonna try IG + p93 today. Let’s see how it goes. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 8:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-it-helps-you-too-great/9451/83 "2008-05-15T08:37:22Z")
Phya, I love reading your journal…look forward to more…🆒! Bella ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 7:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-it-helps-you-too-great/9451/84 "2008-05-15T19:13:02Z")
Thanks Bella. I plan to post more, so I hope you’ll be satisfied. 🙂 IG + p93.. I applied 2 sprays of IG in the morning and applied 37.5mcgs of p93 after lunch. That p93 made a difference. People seemed to want to help me out and were attentive. It wasn’t so much a ‘friendliness’ but leaning more towards ‘personal assistant’. I’ll need to try it again. ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2008, 7:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-it-helps-you-too-great/9451/85 "2008-05-17T19:47:27Z")
Didn’t go with IG + p93. I wanted to get a good strong feel for the p93 so I put on 50mcg of it. I was an impatient guy that day. I had to be a back seat driver, but I felt like I was just trippin too hard about the traffic and I just wanted to get around it. I REALLY hate traffic though (who doesn’t though?), I’ll go the long way, so long as there’s no traffic. So I was like, take the left, yea, just take it, go for it. Light turns red, so I’m like, nevermind, just make the right, it’s cool, it’s open, go ahead, etc…eventually I just declared that I’m going to shut myself up. I hated how I was sounding and probably would have punched myself in the face. 😛 But I got a lot done. 😃 As soon as I get into the office, hit the phones right away. Calling places back frequently and just buzz, buzz, buzz. As for hits, nothing exceptional I think. p93 with p79 is a goodie for getting work done too. p93 is that mental drive to get it planned out and the p79 is the physical drive to get it done. I’m not sure I could handle that combo with any TAF if the TAF will do to the p93 what it does to the p79. Eh..looks like I’m just gonna have to try it. ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2008, 11:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-it-helps-you-too-great/9451/86 "2008-05-18T23:10:55Z")
Small update on the p93 + p79 combo. I wore 25mcgs of p93 and 15mcgs of p79. I was driving a van filled with marketing materials and such to a concert where my company had put up a booth for one of our clients. I stopped at the parking check but ignored the security guard (I sort of saw him after accelerating I figured what the hell). Parked it, called my boss. The guard walked up to my window and asked me what I was doing, etc..I told him why I was there and he gave me a pass and asked me to repark the van a bit over. Shortly after reparking the van, I saw my boss and he told me to just drive the van straight up to the booth. I was about to, but a taxi pulled up and blocked the driveway. I was worried he was waiting for someone, so as soon as he got out I shouted to him, “yo, you can’t park there, I gotta get through.” He took his time letting his passengers out. During that time a truck backed up from another direction into the pathway first and started unpacking boxes. I watched and waited as the guy unloaded. Got into my truck ready to back up as soon as he left. He didn’t so I walked up and told him, “I apologize if I’m being impatient, but I’m on a schedule like you, so could you move your truck?” He of course, immediately does so. I back up the van and unload it in half the time it took to load it. Granted, I actually had a little bit of help this time around… After that, I just took off to go get a tattoo. 😃 So it was definitely go-go-go! Zeph, if you’re reading this, yes it sounds like a marine. Tight schedule, everything needs to be perfect before thousands of spectators show up for the concert and everyone is in each other’s way. I think the environment was conducive to the overall vibe I felt as well, so it should be taken into consideration. However, given the antsy-ness I felt with 50mcg of p93 or TAF + p79, I think it was better that I was in a fast-paced environment, otherwise I might have driven myself batty in a slow, quiet office. ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 2:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-it-helps-you-too-great/9451/87 "2008-05-19T02:37:07Z")
yeah, it sounds like you’re in overdrive with that combo. Does it work for concentration though? Say like for regular studying? Any ideas for something like that? I can see this combo working in a high stress work environment with deadlines. The “git 'er done” feeling. And what tattoo did you get? I was actually thinking of getting one too… but I think what I want would be too elaborate. ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 3:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-it-helps-you-too-great/9451/88 "2008-05-19T03:47:59Z")
I think it would be terrible for studying. It’s too much of a ‘active’ vibe to get any studying done. I would suggest the following activities: running for your life - bears, tigers, cops..you know, the usual. One of those momentous one vs one fight to the death near the end of movies. Maybe a bike ride through the park, but a really EXTREME one. 🙂 I dunno. It gives you an idea of how much movement I wanted to make. I couldn’t keep my fucking foot still. I hated it. I was actually finishing one up that I kinda left hanging for a couple years. But basically, as far as the design goes you could say it looks like the..whatchamacallit from Zelda..that triangle thing. Sorry, I never was that much of a Zelda fan..I didn’t even realize that they were more or less the same shape until I was at a rave. 😛 Anyway, the three ‘corner’ triangles are flames, and the inner triangle is like the ocean, kinda beachy. It has all sorts of symbolisms that are just interwoven into the geometry, symbols, and positioning. It was my first one, so it’s got the most baggage attached to it I guess. 😛 I was planning another tattoo before I got this one finished. The sting of the needles reminded me that you gotta earn em. So, the second one is a bit one hold now, as I’m reconsidering size and colors, etc..after being reminded of the experience. I don’t think your idea is too elaborate. Unless you’re absolutely convinced you’re a tattoo freak for life before you get your first tattoo and decide you want to become the next lizard man or other completely tattoo person, no first tattoo is likely to be too ‘elaborate’. Unless you mean in terms of sheer number of details, in which case, you might just need a bit more space to scale it up. What were you thinking of, out of curiosity? ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 4:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-it-helps-you-too-great/9451/89 "2008-05-19T04:49:13Z")
I was thinking of getting well two. One on my right arm and one on my left. So it would be symmetrical, sorta… I want a (cliche I know) dragon but here’s the thing. I’ve always seen myself as both American and Chinese so I want a Chinese interpretation of the dragon morphing into a more americanized version of a dragon. So from tail (chinese) to head (american). Left side would be the reciprocal, tail (american) to head (chinese). Only reason I choose a dragon is cause its found both in Chinese lore/fantasy and in American tales. Otherwise I would choose a tiger, as those are revered by Chinese artists. I wouldn’t want it huge, but I would want it detailed because of the whole morphing thing symbolizing like a fusion of both my cultures. It’s kinda also like a big fuck you to those Chinese who don’t consider me American and not Chinese and to those Americans who see me as Asian and not American. So like the chinese style dragons are very flowy, very graceful and wise. The Americanized style is more fierce, brutal and powerful. So I guess I’d need a good artist huh? ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 5:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-it-helps-you-too-great/9451/90 "2008-05-19T05:53:46Z")
Yea, you get what you pay for, so choose carefully and scrutinize portfolios and know what makes a good tattoo artists. Look for pictures of healed tattoos, not fresh ones, etc..but I don’t think your idea is out of the question. Hell, my next one was supposed to be a tiger symbolizing Korea, among other things, so don’t worry, when it comes to national symbols, being unique is sort of..well, I think you get the idea. Would it go along your back and connect? What two different dragons, one on each side? I’d definitely choose an artist that can do both styles (Chinese and American) according to your tastes. It’d suck if the Chinese part was tight, but the American part sucked or whatever. ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 1:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-it-helps-you-too-great/9451/91 "2008-05-19T13:17:35Z")
Phya, zeph…are you guys familiar with this Ray Bradbury classic? 🙂 🆒 https://www.youtube.com/embed/TgNYE7jcAFM?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 2:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-it-helps-you-too-great/9451/92 "2008-05-19T14:25:54Z")
ooo, nope. looks kinda creepy with the intro that they had. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 7:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-it-helps-you-too-great/9451/93 "2008-05-19T19:44:12Z")
Haven’t actually seen that before. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 7:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-it-helps-you-too-great/9451/94 "2008-05-19T19:53:02Z")
Great updated report Phya 😃 Reps for this. I will look forward to your latest reports 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![kevio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c5a1d2/32.png) [@kevio](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kevio)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 3:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-it-helps-you-too-great/9451/95 "2008-05-21T15:10:24Z")
I would really enjoy your opinion on rone as a standalone. I tried it extensively with my mixes and came up with various results. I never tried [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) but I would want to compare the differences 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 5:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-it-helps-you-too-great/9451/96 "2008-05-21T17:57:26Z")
Thanks PhatSounds, me too. Kevio, I have never tried Androsterone as a standalone. My only experiences with it, as far as I know, are IG and A314, and of the two, IG is the closest to raw Androsterone. I think you would probably be in the best position to compare the two if you already have raw Androsterone. ---
**Author:** ![kevio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c5a1d2/32.png) [@kevio](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kevio)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 8:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-it-helps-you-too-great/9451/97 "2008-05-22T08:50:51Z")
Unfortunately, I don’t have IG. But I am interested to see your opinion on the differences between IG and a314. Some have posted about this before but your situation is similar to mine (Asian dominated environment) Sorry for not posting. I just got a job and didn’t want to blow it off. ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 6:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-it-helps-you-too-great/9451/98 "2008-05-22T18:33:48Z")
Haha, no problem. Work hard Kevio! Basically, A314 has teeth. It’s a little more mean, a little sharper. Whereas IG is softer, more calm, less on edge, more relaxed. Different vibes, IMO. A314 is much more active whereas IG is more like a ‘lounge’ feel. ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2008, 8:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-it-helps-you-too-great/9451/99 "2008-05-23T20:46:42Z")
Okay, so real quick I’m gonna just list a couple experiences over the last couple days. IG + p93: Wasn’t bad, I should try it again for better clarity. A314+IS+IG: A314 seems to sort of loose its ‘teeth’ with IG, but it definitely calmed me down. As a side note, I think IG or -rone, is wonderful for Asian girls. More of you should try it with IS. 😉 MX209: Kinda lame. Perhaps its the Pherogame scent that I’m just sick of now, but while the mix is upbeat and exciting, it’s also kind of flat and gets boring quickly for me. [MX200](https://a314.com/product/mx200/): Woah, I haven’t wore this mix in a year and revisiting it is strange. I can’t exactly remember my reactions to mx200 before, but I feel it is stronger today. Uplifted, energetic, not quite, but almost like..light in my stomach. ---
**Author:** ![omphalos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/49beb7/32.png) [@omphalos](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/omphalos)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2008, 2:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-it-helps-you-too-great/9451/100 "2008-05-24T02:22:18Z")
Ya, I can definitely vouch for the ig + ishine combo, and next time I’ll proly throw ih in. As for the mx200, I need to give it another chance but with some cover this time. Even if the smell is not as bad as I perceive it to be, I think I’ll feel better if I don’t have to smell it. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-it-helps-you-too-great/9451.md?page=4) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-it-helps-you-too-great/9451.md?page=6)