# If it helps you too, great... **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [February 26, 2008, 5:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-it-helps-you-too-great/9451 "2008-02-26T05:58:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 231
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 7:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-it-helps-you-too-great/9451/231 "2008-12-12T19:18:37Z")
Some p103 stuff: > [@Phya](#): > > Day 1 > 25mu p103 around 11AM > > At first, I felt hyper, I swear I felt my heart rate increase. I wouldn’t say it was physically energizing per se, but it definitely did have an impact physically..I dunno I’ll articulate it better later. I managed to get a good amount of work done today, I have been lagging on this paper for a while now and today I typed out 4 of those 5-7 pages. It’s been something I’ve been wanting to get done for a while now. Today I just told myself, “Just get it started, just put your name down on the paper and start writing.” This was before my DHL shipment came in. Later in the day it became “Just get the structure of the paper down and you can fill it in later.” When I sat down to write it, I said fuck it and just started typing. > > Anyways, I went to my lab today, handled the work and left. One of the students was talking about wanting to transfer to a school with football players because she wants to date them. Yeah, that’s a great choice for your education..the girl sitting next to her lets her know that she thinks that’s ridiculous. The other girl is clearly distressed and just dismisses the conversation, she was done with her work anyway. I couldn’t help but comment to the girl sitting next to her and we had a brief conversation about our classes next quarter and traveling to Europe. She mentioned a fiance so I just concentrated on my work. > > After that, I was about to get some lunch but I decided the line was too long. I went to the store and bought a protein shake. I then went to the library and tried to get some reading in for the paper. I ended up taking a short nap, but I also managed to get some reading in too. I left and went to my next class, waited around for the list of pages that we need to review for the midterm. He only told us the pages for chapter 8. Apparently he had gone over chapters 6 and 7 before. I turned and asked the girl sitting behind me if she had the page numbers for those chapters, she told me that it’s just the whole chapters. This wasn’t the truth, but I guess she either didn’t know, didn’t have them, or didn’t want me to have them. Anyways, I ask another girl in the row in front of me and she’s happy to supply the page numbers. I quickly copy them down and leave class. > > I get home, I’m waiting around for my friends to show up so we can go to the gym. Some other friends come by for a little bit, then leave. I go to the gym, have a good workout. At the gym I see a girl that I know and say hey. She walks by later as I’m finishing my cardio and we start talking. We talk about this, we talk about that..she needed to find her friend and go get some food so she left. > > On our way out, my friend’s jacket was having a zipper malfunction and knowing that it’d be really cold outside, he tried fixing it. It was not easily fixed. As we’re trying to fix the zipper, same girl walks up grinning and starts asking about what we’re doing. We small talk again for a little bit and she’s off again. Another girl comes by and says hi, one that I haven’t seen in a while. We talked about Thanksgiving for a second and she went to work out. Shortly after, we fix the zipper and leave. > > I get home, take a shower, and I’m on my way to get some food. This is around 6pm and after my shower, I reapplied p103. > > 37.5mu around 6pm > > I get in the car and drive over to the restaurants. I’m walking to the restaurants and I can’t decide. I stand there for a moment just looking back and forth. I decide I want variety so I’m going to the restaurant I don’t usually go to. I order my food and just as I finish paying, someone calls out my name. I turn and see that it’s one of my friend’s roommates. He’s eating alone and since I had some time to wait, I go and sit with him. We talk about being social outcasts and all that, it sucks that his parents aren’t allowing him to stay in the dorms..he’s missing out. Anyways, So we talk for hella long, my food comes, I decide to sit there talking to him, perhaps trying to delay the enevitable..I offer him a ride home. > > I need to get a drink and some gas so I pull into a gas station. I go inside and my friend’s there getting some cigarettes. I pull another protein shake out of the refridgerators and as I’m waiting in line, I’m absent mindedly playing catch with myself with the protein shake. I miss and it explodes on the floor. Damn. > > It’s all over the place and I ask the attendant if there is a mop. She asks me to go back there to get it because it’s heavy. I go back there and she hands me the mop. I think this is heavy? I ask if she needs the bucket too, apparently she didn’t. It kinda seemed like she expected me to clean it up. I don’t mind, I made the mess after all, but a bucket of water was necessary for a full cleaning. Either way, I just kinda mop up most of the shake, the attendant brings a bucket over and I just toss in the empty bottle. After that mediocre clean up, I decide, in the end, she’s the one that gets paid to maintain the place, so I leave the mop there. I get another shake and put $10 in the tank. As I’m pumping gas, I realize that she didn’t charge me for the shake I dropped. The gas is just about done pumping when the attendant comes up to me and apologizes for having to charge me for the shake. I’m surprised at this and tell her it’s no problem, I was about to go back in myself. > > I go in and the whole time she’s apologizing profusely, I tell her that she shouldn’t be sorry at all as I was the one who caused the mess in the first place. She seemed to take that very well. I wish her a good night and I’m off. > > I get home, I eat my food, I write my paper and then go to my friend’s place to unwind for a bit. > > Now, I’m here. I wrote this report in notepad, thinking it was going to be a small one…yeah right. > [@P103 day 1 at 25mu: felt hyper and finally got my paper written](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p103-day-1-at-25mu-felt-hyper-and-finally-got-my-paper-written/23558/7): > > Thanks Bella. 🙂 > > Okay, day two. > > 50mu p103 11AM > > I definitely felt that rush again. It either disappears after a couple minutes, or I become used to it and don’t notice anymore. We’ll see if tomorrow is the same. > > I walked into class late. I didn’t put in my contacts so I needed a seat close to the board. I also didn’t want to have to squeeze past people so I was looking for an open aisle seat with a right handed board. I ask if the seat is available and the guy tells me that it’s broken. So I just politely squeeze past them and go all the way to the middle. > > At some point in the class, I’m bored and I turn around to see who I can see. I catch eyes with the ‘snack girl’ (ref: journal) and nod to say hey. She smiles back. I thought I should try and stick around to maybe talk to her. Instead I decide I should be on time to my next class and head out the door. > > As I’m getting out the door, my friend calls me. He’s registering classes and he wants to know what electives I’m taking so we can take classes together. I don’t know what section discussion I’m taking, so I tell him I’ll text him and look it up as I walk to the store. In the store, I almost walk into a girl, smile, say excuse me and slip past her into line. As I’m standing there I watch her walk back and forth, as if she’s lost. Eventually she finds her stuff and gets into line in front of me with her friend. The whole time she’s standing there she’s playing with her hair, sticking her leg out of the line and arching it, shifting around back and forth from leg to leg. I caught her looking back a couple times. I won’t make assumptions, just telling y’all what I saw. > > As the line moves forward, I get thoughts of food and start looking at the snacks they have. I almost forget to get my muscle milk. I grab it as I move forward. > > Fast forward to my econ discussion (12PM). Our TA is handing out our midterms but he has so many he just hands me a stack and tells me to go ahead and look for mine. A girl walks up next to me, waiting to get her test too. After going through a handful of tests, I look at her and hand her the tests that were not mine. I this several times. I don’t know if it was the way I was handing the papers to her, but she seemed to palm my hands a couple times. By accident I guess. > > The discussion ends, I ask my TA for clarification and he explains it in full detail. We end up walking out of the building at the same time and the whole time he’s just telling me that this test shouldn’t be too tricky and difficult. I guess some people have been telling him that it’s hard. I assure him that he’s instructed us well, and we part ways. > > I go to my last class (1PM), my note taking was really off because I didn’t have time to copy all the key terms from the board. I couldn’t get a close enough seat and without my contacts it was near impossible to read the board in low light. Anyways, I make it through and I talk to my TA about my paper. I turn around and my friend is waiting there. We walk out together and just bullshit about whatever, talk about the paper and how much it sucks. 🙂 > > I’m hungry and want some real food (2PM). I go to the commons and get in line for some pasta. There’s only one guy prepping the pasta for two lines and he’s going back and forth. This one girl gets skipped because of that and I just look at her later and smile, she smiled back. Left it at that. > > I noticed a cute girl next to me, I just made an off hand remark about the guy having to work twice as hard since he was alone. She replied with, ‘yea he seems real nice.’ Uhm..non sequitur? Okay. I decide to not talk to her anymore. The cook cooking in my line is pretty friendly and I talk to him now and then. I noticed that they went back to the old plates and I asked him about it. We joked about how some people might actually care. I joked around, pretending to be an irate student. He got a kick out of it. Apparently he has nicknames for his cashiers because he calls out ‘Giggles, that one has extra meat.’ > > I get home (2:30PM), and procrastinate for a while, some friends come over (4PM) and we smoke. We play some big two, cod 4 and just bullshit for a while. I procrastinate a little while longer thinking I’m about to go to the gym soon. I get a call that the gym is going to be delayed because my friend needs to go to an appointment he thought was canceled. So I bullshit for a little longer and finally get to my paper. I get a significant amount of work done by the time my friend shows up to go to the gym. > > We go to the gym (9PM), I’d say that we talked more than normal. To the point where it was a little distracting near the end. Still put in good work, it just took a little longer than usual. > > I come back home (10:30PM) and shower up. I finish up my paper at 12:30PM. I go out to celebrate and smoke a blunt with the homies. 😃 > > And now I’m here, writing this report. > > If I had to characterize the conversation with p103, I’d say it’s brisk. People seem to say what they want, but allow others to have their verbal space as well. But every moment is filled with chatter, the focus of the conversation just skips around. > > I don’t know if the IOIs and subtle hand touching is p103 related or not. We’ll see. > [@P103 day 1 at 25mu: felt hyper and finally got my paper written](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p103-day-1-at-25mu-felt-hyper-and-finally-got-my-paper-written/23558/10): > > Day 3 > > 75mu p103 > > 12:30 Go to campus, decide to get some food first. The usual cook is there and I chat with him for a moment. The cashier forgot to charge me for the extra meat. I let her know and she thanked me and gave me a larger drink for my honesty. > > I ate quickly so that I could talk to my TA. When I entered the room, I asked around for my TA in the history lounge. There was another TA? Prof? that was in my TA’s room instead and she insisted that I come in and sit down. Anyways, my TA joins me and we discuss my paper. > > On my way out I run into an acquaintance and we talk for a moment, somewhat in passing. I get to the library around 1:30pm and while looking for an open computer to use, I run into one of the girls from the gym (the second one). Again, a brief conversation. > > I find a computer and begin reviewing for my final. During the review, I felt unfocused. I was more interested in people watching in the library than actually studying. I managed to get it done and went about looking for sources for my paper. > > While walking around, I ran into a friend of mine. It’s about 3:00pm. It turned out we were taking the same class and didn’t even know it. He was studying for the final as well. I asked him if he knew how much scantrons were and he said he had one for me and gave it to me. Sweet. Saved like..10 cents. 😃 I thank him and go off looking for my sources once more. > > I find all my sources and I’m in line to check out the books. I turn and see another friend. She walks up and we talk for a bit. The interaction felt a little distant, but I think that was due to the fact that she was asking if I was going to her bf’s bday dinner, a guy I’m not particularly excited about. (Ever hear that Murs song “I hate your boyfriend”? Kinda like that. 😛) > > Anyways, I let her know that I probably can’t make it because of the paper. I head over to my final and take it. I finish and on my way home (4:00), I call up my friends to see who wants to hang out. > > I get there and J’s there. We chat for a bit, she was friendly, but definitely not in her best mood as she’s been practicing very late for an upcoming competition recently. I won’t make any judgments on p103’s effects on her, due to her situation. I wouldn’t be turned on or even friendlier if I’m bushed. > > She seemed like she wanted to hang out though, because she was whining about my bad timing. I leave and get some food with my friends, head home and get ready for the gym. > > We go to the gym around 6pm and it’s a long workout again. Much longer than necessary. I’d say that there was a lot of unneccessary chatter. We deliberated on the different styles of cleans for about 5-10 minutes. It was definitely a more social aspect than a focusing aspect, at least in groups. > > I get home, shower up, and get started on my paper around 8:45pm. I finish my paper around 12:30, get a 12 pack of beer and head to my friend’s place. We drink and smoke, just kicking it and watching Mallrats and commenting on it, all the way until 5am. > > I didn’t reapply any p103 or any other pheromones after my shower. > > After 3 days with p103, my observations are that it is indeed social. It promotes conversation, but not like nols. At higher dosages, I think it can actually be counter productive socially, making situations kinda awkward. The ‘rush’ disappears with use. I feel lower dosages would be better for this one. Around 25-35 mu. Also, it seems to last an incredibly long time, or the new fixatives that AD is using are working very well. As far as diffusion goes, I’d say about 5-7 feet (that’s a rough estimate at best). > > If I had to sum it up in one phrase, I’d say p103 gives you a desire to express your thoughts. It also seems to accelerate the thinking process in a way. It’s very..uh…undercurrenty? Basically, it doesn’t show much on the surface, but it definitely seems to be doing something in the background. > > I’ll need to try p103 with some other pheromones to get a better idea of it. p79, TAF, p83, and IH are the first candidates. > > I’m wearing p103 and p79 today. I’ll let you guys know how it goes. > [@P103 day 1 at 25mu: felt hyper and finally got my paper written](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p103-day-1-at-25mu-felt-hyper-and-finally-got-my-paper-written/23558/14): > > Yes, I agree that a-nol, b-nol, and p103 all occupy the social sphere of pheromones while maintaining different specific functions. > > 10mu p79 + 25mu p103 > > The p79 really makes a difference. It really upped the p103. It seems to encourage conversations as opposed to the more lighter chatter of p103 solo. I feel that you can use significantly less p103 when used in conjunction with p79. > > (11am) I applied the p103, forgot to apply the p79 after heading out the door, ran back in and spritzed it on. Walk to class, decide to get a protein shake. They’re alllll gone..I grab a green machine instead and go to class. > > I didn’t actually pay attention in class that day, it was all review for the final. Instead, I jotted down notes for my day 3 p103 report. At the end, he said see you at 11. I was under the impression that my final was at 8, so I went down to confirm the time. There’s a long line to speak with the prof, so I ask some of the students still hanging around. A couple of them actually didn’t know, until one guy looked in his notebook and confirmed it was 8. I turn and almost run into my friend who is also confused about the time. He’s normally very good with school deadlines, so if he’s doubtful, I’m gonna take the time to double confirm. We wait around for the prof and ask him directly. He says check the syllabus. > > We head out, chat for a bit while we walk to our next classes then part ways. I go and get some food, I talk with the cook for a bit again, this time he cracks a joke or two. I asked him how his day was going, he said it was still early, and there’s still plenty of time to screw up. > > (12:30pm) Ate my lunch, went to the library, where I run into that acquaintance that I’ve been running into all over the place. We stop and actually talk for a while, it’s hard not to when you’ve been running into each other every day for the past week. He gets a phone call from his gf, I take that moment to excuse myself. I find a computer and to kill some time, post up that report on p103. > > Last class of the quarter! I go to class and take my notes. I wait around and see if I can take the final early so I can go home early. The prof says no go. Damn, I’m gonna be stuck here until Saturday… > > (2:30PM) Now, it’s time to play. I go and hang out with some friends, it pretty much consists of hanging out and smoking. We watch some funny movie, get some food, and get some 40s. We pretty much just spend the night drinking, eating, and playing games. > > My lack of sleep catches up to me and I crash. (12am) > > I’d say that the p79 really encourages longer conversations, compared to p103 alone. Most of my conversations with p103 have been kinda brief, not awkward, but not smooth. With p79, conversations took on a more natural feel, with some increased intensity in the duration of conversation. > [@P103 day 1 at 25mu: felt hyper and finally got my paper written](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p103-day-1-at-25mu-felt-hyper-and-finally-got-my-paper-written/23558/17): > > 1 drop of A314, 10mu p79, 1 IH4x, 2 IS2x, 50mu p103 > > Went to my friend’s dance competition with some friends. One of my friends, K, responded very favorably to that combo. I suspect the A314 has something to do with it. She’s a model that’s trying to get some screen time, so you get an idea of what kind of lifestyle she’s pursuing, at the same time, she’s fairly down to earth. So far at least… > > She was very talkative and very touchy, arms interlocked, hands around my arm, my arm around her waist, heads touching whispering into ears, the entire night. Though, I suspect she’s a bit touchy to begin with. Then again, this was the first time we really hung out together. Either way, I’d say that there was a definite hit with p103. I’ve never really talked with her that much. Also, we were in a very upbeat, excited, ready to party mood the whole night. Extremely strong and consistent eye contact. > > Other guys were also friendly, but the A314 wasn’t completely neutralized like with TAK. The respect was still there, but the distance was definitely reduced. > > All in all, I’d say that the p103 didn’t overpower the A314, and that I consider it to be a suitable alternative to a-nols. It’s not nearly as…chipper (I’m not sure if that’s the right word..but for lack of a better one…) as a-nol. Think of it as between a-nol and b-nol. It’s friendly like a-nol, but has more substance like b-nol. > > I’d say with that combo, the p103 could be lowered to around 30mu and still be effective, while being better balanced. The p79 really amps up the p103. The kino, I’d attribute to the IS+A314 combo. I’m really beginning to see how this works socially. It’s pleasant and fun, diffuses moderately well, and lasts incredibly long. I like it. > > I would consider replacing my IO with p103, since I’m not too fond of the ‘chatter’ that excessive a-nol brings around. --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-it-helps-you-too-great/9451)._