Seriously guys, if you want to make P75 work consistently, dosage doesn’t matter, you can even use up to 30mcg - Use it with IG, a few sprays of IO and TAL! TAL will lower the intimidation factor of P75 and bumps up the confidence of your target so she doesn’t run away! P74 and TAC are fine as buffers for low dosages of P75 but not really effective buffers for high doses of P75!
This is a good idea. sometimes less is more. I would apply Ammo, IS, IH - 1:1:3
Ok. Let’s get practical. I’ve used 10-20 mcg of P75. It was interesting, but mostly too intense. I’m thinking in terms of what I would order or try. I could do 12.5 mcg of P75 and TAL. I can get IO and IG TOGO. Were at about $100 here. How many sprays of what? What can anyone expect from this to justify this combo?
My use of 75 at 2.5-5 mcg is pretty consistent.
not just that, I dont know why he thinks TAL would lessen the intimidation factor, it’s a female molecule that makes women more intense, if anything, it would challenge her, not put her at ease. You’re putting 2 intense molecules together, and thinking they’ll work in harmony.
something bubbly, airy, light, and fun would break intimidation. Someone can look like Kimbo Slice, but if they’ve got on a smile, act like a real cool humble person and have a happiness about them, they’ll change your perspective real quick.
If people compare P75 to Androstenone or as an replacement you have to buffer it like Androstenone. For high dosages of P75 I would recommend TAL.
TAL works in low dosages of 5-7.5mcg - it’s not that intense as you think, some molecules are dosage sensitive, you can’t compare it to P79. Women only get challenged with TAL if you use too much TAL and too much Androstenone in a mix.
you’ve got any reports on that?
typically it’s always been used with a real buffer like nol, or tah to steer it lighter.
There’s some reports on mixes I’ve had success with, in my journal, TAL with P75 is not a problem, with Androstenone adding TAH helps to balance out the effects, the effects of too much TAL with Androstenone is women becoming physically aggressive, and fight, in a competitive environment, such as a club.
I like TAL and it’s one of my favourites to use in a club because it makes women do things they’ll usually don’t do or hold back on. It gives them that slight confidence to go for what they want, and makes you more approachable and less of a threat. So if there’s a girl that likes you, but maybe she’s too shy, wearing TAL helps to bring her out of her shell. I find it a very flirty/touchy molecule in the right situation and with the right girl and you don’t need high dosages.
this is basically what we were saying.
but trying to put on 30mcg of p75 is far too unpredictable, the more P75 you put, the more TAL you have to put, the more aggressive EVERYBODY becomes.
and yes, the spray works well with TAH. I’ve been working with -none, TAL and TAH for quite some time, in fact it was a spray I created back in 06’ called “It’s Him” when men were shy about wearing TAH/TAL. one day I just decided to try it out, and was taken back by the results.
Even wore it with a powerful rone called A314.
I’ve been wearing TAH/TAL for along time, and having been testing P75, I don’t see it, unless wearing TAH with it. It would need something airy, social and fun to go along with it IMO.
anyways some of my early reports on TAL
damn I forgot we even added couplins too it. thing smelled awful the first 30 min, but damn the results were amazing.
These reports are good and helpful, but old, it doesn’t mean other people today can’t have results with different combo’s, I also mentioned using IG and IO along with P75, TAL is just a complementary molecule to go along with it. It’s fine that you can’t see it, keep testing.
sprays dont morph into anything different after time, if anything the earlier reports were less bias as they were blind.
You only mentioned -none and TAL, so I was wondering where you got that from, and if you had reported that. afterward, you changed stance and said you included other sprays… that made a lot more sense then -none and tal only. again I’d love to read about it. I have both, but I don’t want to make a mistake ruining my date saturday. so I ask you again, are the 2 exclusively ideal to use on a date? before I “start testing”.
I’m sorry if I wasn’t clear, exclusively they’re not ideal to use on a date and it would be safer to use both TAH and TAL with Androstenone, not more than 5mcg of each. I prefer to use IO, IH and a little P74 as well with Androstenone.
I have free sample bottles of P75 (5mcg) and P130 (5mcg), both woth Neroli. As I reported above, I think one spray of P75 was a bit intimidating for my target lady. As someone suggested, I’d like to dial it back to 2.5mcg / spray. Could I just take the tops off both bottles, and dilute the P75 with an equal volume of P130?
Just a crazy idea …
by the way, I’m 56 and my target lady is 40.
well first you’d need to use half of each. or if you have an empty to go bottle, you could pour half of each into 1 togo. that will dilute both. thing is, then you’d have a togo bottle of p75(2.5mcg) + P130(2.5) IN THE SAME BOTTLE. From what I hear P130 is a very cuddle spray, chicks want to touch you, so they probably send you this to see if p130 can counter p75. personally Id mix them in the same bottle, and use it as one spray (its someting I like to do), but that will interrupt your testing as you can’t use different measurements of mcgs to see analyze both of their thresholds against one another.
you could use cologne to dilute it. put half in a bottle, then top the other half with cologne.
Thanks for the reply, I was just a bit concerned that the mixture might be explosive or lethal or worse.
I wasn’t sure of the effects of P130, other than it’s in other products as a buffer. I guess the P130/P75 mix might do something for a woman who wants to cuddle a masculine man!
The P75 bottle is only 1/4 full, so no problem just tipping in some P130 to double the volume. I’ll try it later, if I can get the tops off. . .
thanks again
tops off? you mean just peeling the tape/label off, then unscrewing the top? pretty easy.
but yea that sounds like quite the spray..P75 top it off with P130, make sure to shake, and that the first spray will be pure P75 at first.
My tests suggest that at about 10 mcg. P130 acts as an intensifier, perhaps as a junior version of P79. It intensifies P75, as does TAA / IShine. These combined with P74 send a very distinct masculine tone that P74 and 75 don’t alone. I feel this is 130’s distinct role in Summer AMMO and with other combos. However, unless it becomes avail. in the store, I simply haven’t enough to test much further. Half the bottle wicked through the sprayer and out the cap during FedEx. KIMBA thought 130 was Alpha but not aggressive. It signaled youth. I think that seems right. It makes a nice fit with 75 and TAA in that respect. Into the Lion's Den - #18 by KIMBA
Well, that was simple. Once I got the labels peeled back, I could unscrew the tops easily. I topped up the P75 (5mcg) to double the volume with the P130 (5mcg), put the top back on, shook it around, and fired 2 sprays into a tissue to bleed the pure P75 that was in the nozzle. Good to go!
So now I have a spray with 2.5mcg P75 and 2.5mcg P130.
My next question; whether to use this spray on it’s own, or to use some Shine and Honesty at the same time? I guess testing will tell me.
I just hope the basic spray on it’s own doesn’t creep out my 40-year old target!
see, that wasn’t so hard ![]()
I think using both IShine AND IH would be cool. Ishine (but not much maybe 1 - sprays) as a buffer, IH to bleed out what she thinks of your new signature. I think it will take a couple of meetings for her to start to get used to the signature and react on it tho, since she already knows you. takes a few meet ups for ones head to wrap around whats different and associate it with you.
good luck. report back. it wont FORCE her to like you (just like no amount of mones will make you like a girl you don’t find attractive), but it if she’s ‘thought’ about you in that way at all, it should help.