I use IO a lot to get women to open up more. This is how it usually girls:
-I ask girl to dance, she says yes, we are dancing and she gets really chatty since she is so close to me. Asks me all sorts of stuff and what not.
When I use 5mcg of P75, it is way too strong after some serious dancing. The IO helps alleviate that, gonna throw some Ammo so i don’t come as strong. The IG might help as well. Gonna start working on spraying more on my neck and wrists as well.
Instead of taming down the p75 signature by using ammo and IG have you tried cutting down p75 to 2.5 mcg.. I find anything more than 2.5 mcg on ME is not acceptable. (i.e. OD)
That’s what works very well with me if I have IO available. I saw some posts here and tried experimenting. Yeah, 5mcg is too much. I would like it a little more edgy without the effects of a double dose of p75
I’ve been using a mix of P75 and P130 (a 50:50 mix of 5mcg of each) very effectively - although I am 56, so a lot older than most guys here. Two sprays of this mix seems to be working well. I’m also applying Shine and Honesty in different areas.
Do the effects of the 'mones persist for a while after they supposedly lose their potency? I was with my target lady for about 6 hours today, and she seemed to gradually soften up more and more as time went by, finishing up with hugs and kisses in the car when I dropped her off, and a tacit agreement that we are now “dating”. (she’s almost 40, but very slim, blond, 5 ft 7. . . )
I didn’t re-apply any 'mones in the 6 hours.
For people who are getting loads of self effects with p75, and I’m sure there are many, how much time do you find these self effects take to get into action?
Trying to find a general consensus as to how much in advance most people wear p75 before heading out. Some say right away, some way 15 min, some say 1 hr, some say 2 hrs, never heard over 2 hrs. p75 is a long hitter but I’m talking about self effects here not how long people works on OTHER people.
Comments?
I think it depends on your level of activity. When I dance, I put it 1hr to 30 min before, just because the scent stays strong for a bit. The self effects start hitting usually 20 mins in for me.
I have not noticed a delay of onset of effects (onset as short as 5 minutes Or less); I have noticed effects change and improve hours after application.
Can you elaborate? How do you find the self effects change and improve? Have you kept track of what is happening to you? Is there a pattern?
Onset of self effects is quite rapid for me. Self-effects testing is the first thing I do with any new product, often on the wrists. It helps me gauge effects on others, because I can use my response as a benchmark. After about four hours, a distinct crankiness sets in for me. This often requires buffering, but the harshness can also be exploited for a more Alpha effect. Were I to create an A314, it would contain P75 and similar molecules specifically to exploit the self effects. Regular use will cause personality adaptations.
Similarly, effects on others do change over time. It’s impossible to tell whether this is do to duration of exposure vs. delay after application. It seems to be the former. If you’ve been around people with this on all day, applying IShine or something else as a brightener keeps the P75 signature from what doctors would call tachyphylaxis. This is particularly true if you are around the same targets daily. Given the psychotropic nature of some pheros, this concept shouldn’t be overlooked.
dsouza! how long have you been using P75 and do you still get the self effect? usually self effects start to die out after a few use.i don’t get the self effect with IG anymore.with IS the effect is starting to decrease
Been using p75 for about 3 months.. Still get the self effects everytime I use it!