# If you could choose just three? Est?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-you-could-choose-just-three-est/4932>\
**Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [August 3, 2007, 9:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-you-could-choose-just-three-est/4932 "2007-08-03T09:42:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![May](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/may/32/1909_2.png) [@May](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/May)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2007, 9:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-you-could-choose-just-three-est/4932/1 "2007-08-03T09:42:12Z")

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Hi

For my next order I want to try something new - that I have not tried before. Here are the products I am currently thinking about

Lust after me - well… you know why 🙂  
[Instant Sexiness B](https://phera.com/product/kitten/) - Because I love A and want to try B  
Dirty - Because, I’ve read your reports! 😉  
Est - Possible moody boss tamer 🙂 and would be good to test- if it can tame my boss who is moodiness-onna-stick it will work on anyone!  
A314 - Read your reports again!

Now, I know I will also have to top up my already existing supplies so the budget might be stretched as none of the above are available to-go

So, In order of preference which three should I go for first? Also, any thoughts on Est?

Thanks in advance 🙂

May

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**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2007, 1:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-you-could-choose-just-three-est/4932/2 "2007-08-03T13:40:27Z")

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I’d totally recommend Est, May. Expensive yes, but also quite strong. I haven’t bothered to dilute mine yet, so I go with one spray of 50 mcg.

Effects? Men love it. Even more so than [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). It’s early days yet in my testing, so I don’t want to say too much. But I do think it could be a major component of an “Instant Fall-for-Me” mix.😉

It also smells really good and improves the scent of my perfumes. It seems to alter the scent of EW as well.

Keep on testing, May! Even if I don’t post quite as often this summer, I’ll be reading your adventures with interest. 😃

Best,  
Kitten

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2007, 5:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-you-could-choose-just-three-est/4932/3 "2007-08-03T17:37:07Z")

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Oh God its so hard to choose LOL

If you can afford the EST go for that. I am interested in that one as well. If its to much for your budget go with LAM.

Have your tried the MX135 you ordered yet. That has TAH in it like IS/B so see if you like that then you can decide if you want to invest in IS/B.  
TAH makes me a little ditzey but as long as I spray a little TAL to my chest it wont bug me to much so I can still use my TAH mixes.

I also find the reports on Dirty interesting. I may give that a try down the line but since I screwed up with TUTH I shy away from the mens products.

Kitten let us know how you do with EST, there is not much on it and I am really looking forward to hearing about it.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![May](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/may/32/1909_2.png) [@May](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/May)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2007, 7:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-you-could-choose-just-three-est/4932/4 "2007-08-03T19:41:30Z")

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I think I should use my points towards est. Because, there is not much on it, we are all a bit curious and I can use points for it and post here about what I find - I also have the ultimate guinea pig in my boss.

It would help tons if it came in a to-go but never mind 🙂

Ok so, EST is a given for research purposes. I don’t get on with MX135 too well, but straight TAH is fine on me - makes me a bit dappy but otherwise ok. So, I am hoping IS/B will be ok.

Any other thoughts on the others? I’m tending towards LAM… but open to all suggestions.

May

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**Author:** ![May](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/may/32/1909_2.png) [@May](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/May)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2007, 8:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-you-could-choose-just-three-est/4932/5 "2007-08-03T20:02:08Z")

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I’ve sinned…

I came over all impatient…

I ordered the EST and yes, when it gets across the Atlantic I will smother my boss in a big fat cloud of it and report straight back… 🙂

And I ordered LAM… no extra cops… which I should have done, but forgot ☹

May

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2007, 12:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-you-could-choose-just-three-est/4932/6 "2007-08-04T00:39:59Z")

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Send Jas a PM with your order number in the title and “need to fix order” and maybe she can add some cops in the lust after me and send you a bill or charge your card or something.

Its worth a try.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![binnyliu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f475e1/32.png) [@binnyliu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/binnyliu)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2007, 1:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-you-could-choose-just-three-est/4932/7 "2007-08-04T01:06:11Z")

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> [@Kitten](#):
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> It also smells really good and improves the scent of my perfumes. It seems to alter the scent of EW as well.
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> Keep on testing, May! Even if I don’t post quite as often this summer, I’ll be reading your adventures with interest. 😃
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> Best,  
> Kitten

What’s the scent that it comes in Kitten? I am also trying to decide what to get next and the Est has sparked my interest.

Binny

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**Author:** ![May](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/may/32/1909_2.png) [@May](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/May)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2007, 7:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-you-could-choose-just-three-est/4932/8 "2007-08-04T07:13:41Z")

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Thanks Tisha

I’ve just sent Jas a pm. It says the order is still in processing so fingers crossed. I don’t want a fragrance change though, just the extra cops. If all else fails I can back it up with EoW but I wanted to try something with Androtics own cops. 🙂

May

Edit - It’s not too late to add some extra cops as my order is still processing Thanks Jas! 🙂

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**Author:** ![May](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/may/32/1909_2.png) [@May](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/May)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2007, 7:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-you-could-choose-just-three-est/4932/9 "2007-08-04T07:17:57Z")

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Kitten has said something about diluting the est. Would it be good idea to dilute to say 25mcg? And is it ok to dilute with water or should I use vodka or similar - it seems to be a spray.

It would give me a bigger range of dosages to try with.. unless est needs a heck of a whumpf of mcgs…

I’ll do a search but I don’t think - from the last time I tried - there is much out there yet.

Really looking forward to this one arriving!

Best  
May

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2007, 3:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-you-could-choose-just-three-est/4932/10 "2007-08-04T15:04:38Z")

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> [@](#):
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> I ordered the [EST](https://phera.com/) and yes, when it gets across the Atlantic I will smother my boss in a big fat cloud of it and report straight back… 🙂

I am so excited about your order you would think it was mine LOL I hope it gets there quick because I am really looking forward to more reports about this product. I have alot of puratives I never tested and I am going to start using some of those and reporting on them. I am trying like hell not to order anything online for a few weeks 😮 because I have a few packages from all over on the way.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![May](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/may/32/1909_2.png) [@May](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/May)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2007, 4:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-you-could-choose-just-three-est/4932/11 "2007-08-04T16:05:53Z")

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Those packages wouldn’t be anything to do with a certain sale at an Elements website would they? 😛

May

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**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2007, 6:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-you-could-choose-just-three-est/4932/12 "2007-08-04T18:05:20Z")

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> [@binnyliu](#):
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> What’s the scent that it comes in Kitten? I am also trying to decide what to get next and the Est has sparked my interest.  
> Binny

It comes unscented. Unusually, the [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) itself actually smells nice.

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> Kitten let us know how you do with EST, there is not much on it and I am really looking forward to hearing about it.

Abstotutely!

Latest: Thinking of you ladies, I wore three sprays yesterday (150 mcg!). Male work acquaintances followed me around and sought me out when I managed to slip away. Little things they said seemed to indicate that they thought they knew me really well.

At dinner, my date smiled a _lot_–and he is a pretty serious guy. Even though we haven’t been going out for very long, he brought up the subject of his parents’ marriage and wanted my thoughts on the topic in general. He also pressed me to go out with him again today. 150 mcg is just a little too intense for my comfort level.

> [@](#):
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> I am so excited about your order you would think it was mine LOL I hope it gets there quick because I am really looking forward to more reports about this product. I have alot of puratives I never tested and I am going to start using some of those and reporting on them.

Can’t wait for more of your reports! You have such a great testing environment at your work too.

> [@](#):
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> Kitten has said something about diluting the est. Would it be good idea to dilute to say 25mcg? And is it ok to dilute with water or should I use vodka or similar - it seems to be a spray.

When I ordered the EST, I also bought a cobalt bottle with perfumer’s alcohol in it. Here is the link:[30 mL Bottle :: Mixing Supplies :: Androtics Direct/SmartMones](https://pheromonelabs.com/)  
Since Androtics offers a choice of perfumers alcohol or dipropylene glycol, I’d wager those would be your best choices for dilutant. You could get a measured pipette too, to be really precise about your ratios.

Supposedly, EST is the male equivalent of A1. Men on these boards have reported that Men’s Realm (which contains only a teeeensy smidge of EST) makes them feel great. Even 1 50 mcg spray is massively stronger than dousing oneself in Men’s Realm.

What I am liking a lot is that females are not freaking out on me when I wear even masses of EST, and it does not affect me negatively at all.😃

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**Author:** ![binnyliu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f475e1/32.png) [@binnyliu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/binnyliu)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 9:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-you-could-choose-just-three-est/4932/13 "2007-08-09T09:29:38Z")

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Sigh i have sinned… :o my credit card DOES NOT like me. I just bought EST 100mcg, since I’m not really having much luck with [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) in general (eow did nothing ☹ ) i thought i’d pump up the dose and see if i get any reaction. I live in Australia but i did get the fast shipping so I should have it soon and testing will begin!

Has anyone else tried out the est and seen good results? Did you spray the est on its own Kitten or did you try TAL or TAH with it? I have both TAL and TAH on the way 25mcg as well and was wondering if they will go well with it…

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**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2007, 2:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-you-could-choose-just-three-est/4932/14 "2007-08-16T02:24:19Z")

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Holy wow, Binnyliu! 100mcg. That’s just craaazy. In a good way! You are going to be the new EST queen. 😉 You _must_ post your results with it, good and bad. Please!

I usually wear EST with some sort of TAL based mix. Either [Instant Sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/) A or MX134. For a sweety cutie fall in love with me romantic vibe, I could imagine EST working very well with TAH.

And don’t give up on the EOW. Just about everyone has trouble with it at first and then all of a sudden they figure out how to use it and they can’t imagine not having it. I love it, and for whatever reason, I don’t need to wear much to get results–PCC even worked on me 😮. Others practically bathe in EOW. Keep trying.🙂

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**Author:** ![May](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/may/32/1909_2.png) [@May](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/May)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2007, 6:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-you-could-choose-just-three-est/4932/15 "2007-08-17T06:43:18Z")

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Hi Binnyliu

I haven’t got my Est yet. Looking forward to reading your results!

Best  
May
