# IFM and kids **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 20, 2006, 2:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-and-kids/920 "2006-11-20T02:59:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 2:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-and-kids/920/1 "2006-11-20T02:59:21Z")
i want to try using IFM more intensely, as it usually doesnt have any effect on me (bizarre, all the other androtics products not only work but work WELL for me) but i am concerned for the effect that it can have on the male gender, particularly my male children. will it depress them? everything else has had a positive effect on them.:o ---
**Author:** ![texaspete](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/texaspete/32/1612_2.png) [@texaspete](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/texaspete)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 3:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-and-kids/920/2 "2006-11-20T03:24:25Z")
It hasn’t effected me or my male co-workers in any way that I can tell, and I use 3-4 sprays, almost daily. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 4:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-and-kids/920/3 "2006-11-20T04:54:43Z")
> [@gabe1970](#): > > It hasn’t effected me or my male co-workers in any way that I can tell, and I use 3-4 sprays, almost daily. wow! good to know. kids are so sensitive, i didnt want to dampen their little day:o ---
**Author:** ![ilsa](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ilsa/32/1552_2.png) [@ilsa](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ilsa)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 12:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-and-kids/920/4 "2006-11-20T12:21:10Z")
Do you have the original version for men to use, or do you have the new version made specifically for us gals to wear? ---
**Author:** ![Scottie2Hottie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/scottie2hottie/32/628_2.png) [@Scottie2Hottie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Scottie2Hottie)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 7:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-and-kids/920/5 "2006-11-20T19:40:06Z")
No problems here Lor. Worn it around kids (boys and girls) quite a bit…usually w/ Instant Shine as [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) tends to make me pretty mellow…not necessarily depressed or muted like straight Androstadienone does…this way I am more upbeat and prone to engage in conversation. In my experience, the kids tend to seek closeness…not so much as w/ Estratetraenol, which makes kids tend to be very cuddly…if I add Instant Shine, then I’m just a big kid magnet albeit noticably less hyper than Instant Shine alone. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 7:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-and-kids/920/6 "2006-11-20T19:43:21Z")
> [@ilsa](#): > > Do you have the original version for men to use, or do you have the new version made specifically for us gals to wear? i have the original. how do they differ? i think i read the guys version is tempered better for them?🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 7:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-and-kids/920/7 "2006-11-20T19:45:20Z")
> [@Scottie2Hottie](#): > > No problems here Lor. Worn it around kids (boys and girls) quite a bit…usually w/ Instant Shine as Instant Female Magic tends to make me pretty mellow…not necessarily depressed or muted like straight Androstadienone does…this way I am more upbeat and prone to engage in conversation. In my experience, the kids tend to seek closeness…not so much as w/ Estratetraenol, which makes kids tend to be very cuddly…if I add Instant Shine, then I’m just a big kid magnet albeit noticably less hyper than Instant Shine alone. thanks so much,good to know! i would like to use alot more of it, im feeling easier about it. ---
**Author:** ![texaspete](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/texaspete/32/1612_2.png) [@texaspete](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/texaspete)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 7:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-and-kids/920/8 "2006-11-20T19:54:14Z")
> [@Scottie2Hottie](#): > > No problems here Lor. Worn it around kids (boys and girls) quite a bit…usually w/ Instant Shine as Instant Female Magic tends to make me pretty mellow…not necessarily depressed or muted like straight Androstadienone does…this way I am more upbeat and prone to engage in conversation. In my experience, the kids tend to seek closeness…not so much as w/ Estratetraenol, which makes kids tend to be very cuddly…if I add Instant Shine, then I’m just a big kid magnet albeit noticably less hyper than Instant Shine alone. You know, I’ve been wearing -mones at work and haven’t been posting the effects on patients - children, difficult or traumatized patients, _ **psych patients** _, etc because I don’t want to have to explain myself during what could eventually become an ethical witch hunt if my identity, location, and occupation is ever disclosed. But I will go so far as to say that I haven’t seen any negatives with children of either gender. Then again, I’m _always_ “just a big kid magnet”.😃 _And, FYI, I wish I hadn’t used my real name on this forum and had obfuscated the identities of people I regularly worked with (more than I already do, I mean.) if I had done that, my posts could be much more interesting._ ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 9:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-and-kids/920/9 "2006-11-20T21:18:09Z")
The women’s version has totally different components, Lor. I think they were guessed at by a couple of people in the thread which is actually ABOUT the female version in this very forum. Ail 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![countesszero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/countesszero/32/1392_2.png) [@countesszero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/countesszero)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 9:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-and-kids/920/10 "2006-11-20T21:26:50Z")
Is the female version MX134. ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 9:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-and-kids/920/11 "2006-11-20T21:35:31Z")
> [@countesszero](#): > > Is the female version MX134. No, MX134 is the variation of A314 “re-engineered for women.” ---
**Author:** ![countesszero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/countesszero/32/1392_2.png) [@countesszero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/countesszero)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 9:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-and-kids/920/12 "2006-11-20T21:41:23Z")
It’s Monday and I need more caffeine. I got IFM mixed up with A314 for a second there. Thanks Carrie. I do have IFM/w but havent done alot of experimenting with it. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 11:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-and-kids/920/13 "2006-11-20T23:07:09Z")
ok, so am i to understand that MX134 is our version of A314? hmmm, i didnt know this. i will have to do some research on that one since i have praying to the bluebottlegod to come up with it… i was only worried that my little boys might be depressed if i wore LOTS of IFM around _that time_. thanks for all the input,guys 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2006, 12:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-and-kids/920/14 "2006-11-21T00:25:36Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > ok, so am i to understand that MX134 is our version of A314? > hmmm, i didnt know this. > i will have to do some research on that one since i have praying to the bluebottlegod to come up with it… > i was only worried that my little boys might be depressed if i wore LOTS of Instant Female Magic around _that time_. > thanks for all the input,guys 🙂 but maybe not as depressed as they’d be if Mom got _really cranky_ … I think I’ve read that IFM works well for _some_ women, and the active ingredient (androstadienone) makes _some_ men depressed. If anyone has testing results on male children, that would be really interesting to hear! I’m not sure we have reason to assume that male children (preadolescent) will respond the same way as adult males. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2006, 12:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-and-kids/920/15 "2006-11-21T00:51:02Z")
> [@Carrie](#): > > but maybe not as depressed as they’d be if Mom got _really cranky_ … > > I think I’ve read that Instant Female Magic works well for _some_ women, and the active ingredient (androstadienone) makes _some_ men depressed. If anyone has testing results on male children, that would be really interesting to hear! I’m not sure we have reason to assume that male children (preadolescent) will respond the same way as adult males. good point,my friend,good point. one of my children IS going through puberty,lol, not something i a taking lightly 😮 ---
**Author:** ![texaspete](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/texaspete/32/1612_2.png) [@texaspete](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/texaspete)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2006, 9:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-and-kids/920/16 "2006-11-25T21:35:32Z")
> [@Carrie](#): > > but maybe not as depressed as they’d be if Mom got _really cranky_ … > > I think I’ve read that Instant Female Magic works well for _some_ women, and the active ingredient (androstadienone) makes _some_ men depressed. If anyone has testing results on male children, that would be really interesting to hear! I’m not sure we have reason to assume that male children (preadolescent) will respond the same way as adult males. No negatives noted around children of either sex, but I’m rarely in their presence for more than 5-30 minutes. On the other hand, IFM sometimes effects one 20something male coworker - but I’ve noticed the effect is completely dependent upon the number of other male coworkers around. If he’s got his entire support group / entourage around, the effect is less pronounced. But still amusing in an evil way.😃 Mwah-hahahhaha ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2006, 5:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-and-kids/920/17 "2006-11-28T05:04:03Z")
Gabe, when you wear IFM, do you cover it? ---
**Author:** ![texaspete](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/texaspete/32/1612_2.png) [@texaspete](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/texaspete)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2006, 5:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-and-kids/920/18 "2006-11-28T05:06:31Z")
Sometimes I wear it with other -mones, sometimes i wear it with cologne, sometimes I do both. And it’s always on the back and sides of my neck. ---
**Author:** ![Mak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@Mak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mak)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2006, 1:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-and-kids/920/19 "2006-11-28T13:07:59Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > i was only worried that my little boys might be depressed if i wore LOTS of Instant Female Magic around _that time_. > thanks for all the input,guys 🙂 I did pay attention to that … I’ve seen no effect from IFM on little boys (6 yrs olds), total placebo. This is with 1-3 sprays, but can’t say on the (lots of IFM), neither on young teens. ---
**Author:** ![Muse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/muse/32/2388_2.png) [@Muse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Muse)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 2:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-and-kids/920/20 "2006-12-14T02:42:32Z")
> [@Mak](#): > > I did pay attention to that … I’ve seen no effect from Instant Female Magic on little boys (6 yrs olds), total placebo. > > This is with 1-3 sprays, but can’t say on the (lots of IFM), neither on young teens. USed instant female magic (for women) around my class for a week with with [instant sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/) (another of LOR’s fave). everything is AOK 😛