# IFM and the pee smell...what did it contain??

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [September 28, 2010, 9:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-and-the-pee-smell-what-did-it-contain/42143 "2010-09-28T21:10:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 10:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-and-the-pee-smell-what-did-it-contain/42143/22 "2010-10-01T10:34:12Z")

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> [@PheroQuirk](#):
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> A1 will stink of horrible BO to some, and be undetectable to others. Sometimes even to the same person he might notice it one day and not the next. You need a cover scent. I think on balance IFM smelt much better overall than does pure A1.
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> I presume MHarris chose not to sell it for good reason, so perhaps one should not hold one’s breath in awaiting a restocking of the chemset mone.
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> I wouldn’t pre-judge MEO-EST (or MOET) as bad. If you go back and look you will see that some people had rather positive experiences from it. It seemed to me to have a celebrity aspect, which might be sometimes a positive thing.

Its not a question of results its a question of safety and health. These are chemicals we are using. Used in moderation responsibly they are safe IMO. However I see users using over 100 mcg of meo est. I even saw one person with over 1000 mcg’s’

When you use reasonable dosages of something very little absorbs into the system. When your using those type dosages of something more is absorbing and your approaching toxic levels. Meo est and its derivatives are carcinogenic. Thats a proven fact.

Now look at A1. It can cause depression in high dosages. This is the reason they gave for taking it out of the line up.

Look at the dosages people are using. Yes it may not cause you depression but you are exposed to other men when your wearing pheromones correct. How about the effect it has on them ?

Low doses are not a issue. I have been telling people for years more in not better and no one has listened. I can see why they took A1 out of the line up. I worry about users who use huge doses. Yet you see the dose climbing and climbing.

Look at an actual formula and how little they actually use to make a great mix.

> [@Behind the Scenes -- MX Formula Cheat Sheets](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/behind-the-scenes-mx-formula-cheat-sheets/37364):
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> Hi there, Gents and Ladies! This thread is your “backstage pass” to the proprietary formulas of some of your favorite MXs. Now you’re an insider to what makes some of these great MXs tick, and can use that to your [name extremely cool advantage here] advantage! If there are any MXs you want to see included in this thread, cast your votes here: [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-mxs-do-you-want-the-formulas-of/12328](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-mxs-do-you-want-the-formulas-of/12328) We’ll regularly comb through your feedback and see which ones we can unleash o…

I was so happy when she shared this because it showed clearly they type of dosages that are safe and effective. Still doses are climbing with users.

I dont know much else we can do other then flat out tell them the truth. I dont want to scare people but hell maybe shaking them up a little will make it dawn on them.

Tisha

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