# IFM or LAM? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 3, 2006, 5:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-or-lam/332 "2006-05-03T05:34:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2006, 5:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-or-lam/332/1 "2006-05-03T05:34:30Z")
At the moment I can afford to feed my addiction to pheromone experimentation by getting one product. I’mout of IShine, soI have a reasonable excuse, and now I must decide what to get. I’mthinking I’ll get either [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) or Lust After Me. I remember Jasmine, I think it was, saying that oneof her friends used A314 and LAM to get some great results from the ladies. But IFM is supposed to do a similar thing… argh! What do you think I should get? ---
**Author:** ![Homura83](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/homura83/32/1989_2.png) [@Homura83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Homura83)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2006, 5:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-or-lam/332/2 "2006-05-03T05:45:11Z")
You could try LAM if you are on the adventurous side.If you wanna be safe then stick to IFM.I’ve tried both with A314,and they both give head turning results and stares.But I’ve done no interaction with the girls yet while wearing them.The scent from LAM is stronger,more floral than IFM,which has a slight herbal smell and can be used as a cover scent.When LAM is combined with [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) it really smells somewhat like a high class expensive cigar;nicotine-like as describe by one of my male friends.It was a nice unique and aliitle addictive scent.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2006, 5:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-or-lam/332/3 "2006-05-03T05:59:01Z")
> [@Homura83](#): > > You could try LAM if you are on the adventurous side.If you wanna be safe then stick to IFM.I’ve tried both with A314,and they both give head turning results and stares.But I’ve done no interaction with the girls yet while wearing them.The scent from LAM is stronger,more floral than IFM,which has a slight herbal smell and can be used as a cover scent.When LAM is combined with Ammo it really smells somewhat like a high class expensive cigar;nicotine-like as describe by one of my male friends.It was a nice unique and aliitle addictive scent.🙂 Thanks for your reply! Have you noticed any difference in the cause of the head turns and stares? Does one combination produce more obvious looks of lust or sexual interest? Does one combination give different body language than the other? Does one gove MORE response than the other? Just trying to understand the difference. ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2006, 7:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-or-lam/332/4 "2006-05-03T07:08:19Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > Thanks for your reply! Have you noticed any difference in the cause of the head turns and stares? Does one combination produce more obvious looks of lust or sexual interest? Does one combination give different body language than the other? Does one gove MORE response than the other? Just trying to understand the difference. It’s good you’re asking that, because it’s VERY important to differentiate the type of attention you’re receiving. It’s possible to get head turning for all the wrong reasons. After all, people’s heads turn at accidents and tragedies, too. Head turning alone isn’t always a good thing! 🙂 While you can’t read minds, I’m sure some mixes are so incongruent (i.e., mismatch you) that they make people look at you like you have two heads and an orange nose. That’s why it’s important to tune into their facial gestures, whether they’re smiling or not, whether their eyes are saying “oh yeah” or “oh my god, are you kidding?” That said, I don’t think IFM or LAM are all that dangerous for a man to wear. I’d be far more careful wearing [Instant Sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/), TAL and TAH as man – I think those are ones that could lead to a possible mismatch, unless mixed carefully into a masculine blend. ---
**Author:** ![Homura83](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/homura83/32/1989_2.png) [@Homura83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Homura83)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2006, 7:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-or-lam/332/5 "2006-05-03T07:23:00Z")
Just to be more specific,adventurous as in you’re going to meet new girls very soon.Safe as in you’re meeting up with your regular/usual female friends.It depends on which type of situation you’re going to be in more often. The number of head turns and stares for both were similar,no significant difference.Both stimulates them to take a look or two.I don’t really look directly back at the girls cause I’m quite a shy guy,hence I never really notice their actual facial expressions,but they are not disgusted I’m sure.I’ll try my best to notice that next time.Oh about body language you gotta be alittle careful with LAM in your combi.I got bumped into quite afew times when walking into crowds,by females most of the time.And my male friend(the one who commented about the scent) also bumped into me afew times while walking beside me.Urgh I thought wtf man..that was one weird effect i had on my first day of wearing LAM with my A314 combination. LAM also gets everyone in a talkative mood.As it is oil based and has a stronger scent it(as well as A314),it can be used to cover more diffusive molecules like TAA in IS and Anol etc.Today I’ll wear it to the bar and see if there are anymore observations. ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2006, 7:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-or-lam/332/6 "2006-05-03T07:30:17Z")
Id go with IFM. its a spray much better when you’re out and about. the hemp scent really catches the nose. ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2006, 7:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-or-lam/332/7 "2006-05-03T07:37:36Z")
> [@Homura83](#): > > Just to be more specific,adventurous as in you’re going to meet new girls very soon. Oh, THAT kind of adventurous! 🙂 > [@](#): > > Safe as in you’re meeting up with your regular/usual female friends.It depends on which type of situation you’re going to be in more often. > > The number of head turns and stares for both were similar,no significant difference.Both stimulates them to take a look or two.I don’t really look directly back at the girls cause I’m quite a shy guy,hence I never really notice their actual facial expressions,but they are not disgusted I’m sure. Speaking of shyness – does IFM make that worse? How about Shine? Does that make you less shy? I wouldn’t call myself shy, per se, but my time is very limited, so I tend to “shy away from” excessive social contact at times when I’m supposed to be doing other things. With Shine/TAA, I’m much more motivated _to_ socialize. Thankfully, socialization is part of my work, too (obviously), so I’ll tend to indulge in social interactions when using a Shine based mix, and re-arrange my other work around that. Normally, using a non-Shine based mix, I’ll do the opposite – I’ll avoid excessively socialization, and pencil in extensive social testinf for later. > [@](#): > > I’ll try my best to notice that next time.Oh about body language you gotta be alittle careful with LAM in your combi.I got bumped into quite afew times when walking into crowds,by females most of the time.And my male friend(the one who commented about the scent) also bumped into me afew times while walking beside me.Urgh I thought wtf man..that was one weird effect i had on my first day of wearing LAM with my A314 combination. Interesting. That’s _huge_ Instant Effect, too (reduction of personal space). You weren’t wearing that at the same time, were you? Do you notice that with other heavy alpha-androstenol products, too, or just [Lust After Me](https://phera.com/product/lust-after-me/)? > [@](#): > > LAM also gets everyone in a talkative mood.As it is oil based and has a stronger scent it(as well as A314),it can be used to cover more diffusive molecules like TAA in IS and Anol etc.Today I’ll wear it to the bar and see if there are anymore observations. The talkativeness is pretty typical of any alpha-nol based formula. The essential oil blend in Lust After Me is ylang ylang heavy. ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2006, 7:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-or-lam/332/8 "2006-05-03T07:41:49Z")
> [@examine](#): > > Id go with IFM. its a spray much better when you’re out and about. the hemp scent really catches the nose. Before you start making people think we use marijuana in our products, you should know the hemp-like scent mostly comes from the clary sage “herbal component”. ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2006, 7:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-or-lam/332/9 "2006-05-03T07:46:02Z")
> [@MHarris](#): > > Before you start making people think we use marijuana in our products aw cmon man. who are you trying to fool, you said it causes a mellow effect followed by depression. no need to hide the secret ingredient. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Homura83](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/homura83/32/1989_2.png) [@Homura83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Homura83)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2006, 7:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-or-lam/332/10 "2006-05-03T07:47:29Z")
When the shyness is there,its just there.IFM does not worsen it any further. IS does help very much.Definitely boosts my confidence level whenever I need it. My A314 combination is just together with a simple 2IS and 2IOx2.BUT I DO NOT GET BUMPED with this mix.Only when worn together with LAM.Loved the heavy ylang ylang scent.Better than smelling copulins. ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2006, 7:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-or-lam/332/11 "2006-05-03T07:54:49Z")
> [@examine](#): > > aw cmon man. who are you trying to fool, you said it causes a mellow effect followed by depression. > > no need to hide the secret ingredient. > > 😃 Hehe… Actually, anybody that gets depressed with IFM will probably experience something like depression first, then mellowness. I think you may be interpreting something I said about a mellow that some men interpret as depression. I wasn’t trying to imply that this was a definite multiminute or multihour sequence with this product, but rather, that it’s an internal sequence that happens in the brain in microseconds (“hmmm… i’m mellow in an unexpressive, overly laid back way… i think i’ll feel a bit down about this”). I know when I feel less able to express myself (than I already do! 🙂), that I find it depressing. And, of course course you know, in reality, all “secret ingredients” are there to eliminate the downsides of the molecule IFM is based around, certainly not add any. For instance, clary (especially the particular variety we chose for this one) is mood elevating. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2006, 8:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-or-lam/332/12 "2006-05-03T08:30:19Z")
Now I am beginning to wonder what would happen if I wore them both with A314… ---
**Author:** ![Homura83](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/homura83/32/1989_2.png) [@Homura83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Homura83)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2006, 9:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-or-lam/332/13 "2006-05-03T09:59:51Z")
You’ll have one damn good mix then.Scentwise too;Clary Sage goes very well with Ylang Ylang.Both will complement each other.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![International\_Playboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/48db29/32.png) [@International\_Playboy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/International_Playboy)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2006, 1:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-or-lam/332/14 "2006-05-03T13:44:07Z")
> [@Homura83](#): > > Loved the heavy ylang ylang scent. Ylang ylang in itself is quite stimulating, one of the best essential oils I’ve experienced in my limited trials. Several years ago and never smelling it before, I bought some from a local herb shop. The owner, a hippie lady with unshaven underarms and legs, decanted some into a 1/4 oz vial from a large bottle. As the scent permeated the room, we both became more animated and she started looking more attractive to me, to the point of my becoming slightly aroused. There was another customer in the store at the time and he ended up buying some ylang ylang too, after smelling it in the air. ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2006, 3:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-or-lam/332/15 "2006-05-03T15:27:08Z")
I’d prefer IFM over LAM. IFM is more diffusive and I’d say is a little safer product to go with. I’m still not sure if a copulin based product is a good thing for men to be wearing or on a regular basis. ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2006, 5:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-or-lam/332/16 "2006-05-03T17:43:13Z")
> [@Cloud9](#): > > I’d prefer IFM over LAM. IFM is more diffusive and I’d say is a little safer product to go with. I’m still not sure if a copulin based product is a good thing for men to be wearing or on a regular basis. yep. altho i have been wearing copulins for the past couple of weeks. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2006, 6:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-or-lam/332/17 "2006-05-04T06:41:06Z")
I dunno, I kinda like attracting the bisexual women. I like copulins for that, and the more relaxed atmosphere it seems to create. I just wish I had some that worked worth a damn.