# IFM or other Androstadienone products.. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 5, 2009, 7:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-or-other-androstadienone-products/34639 "2009-12-05T07:56:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sicpric](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/da6949/32.png) [@Sicpric](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sicpric)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 7:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-or-other-androstadienone-products/34639/1 "2009-12-05T07:56:08Z")
I’ve heard many many positive reviews on Androstadienone products such as IFM and A1, but are they still available? I do believe I read somewhere in these forums that the Androstadienone were discontinued for some reason, if so what would be a good alternative for IFM? I’ve ordered a314, TUTH, IO, IH, and IS, just waiting for them to arrive to me here in Japan. A few other products I was looking at are CTTM2, mx353, P74, [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/). ---
**Author:** ![deca2708](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3ab097/32.png) [@deca2708](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/deca2708)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 9:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-or-other-androstadienone-products/34639/2 "2009-12-05T09:48:02Z")
you can order A1 from here. in my opinion, an alternative would be IS+IH both, maybe, =D. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 10:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-or-other-androstadienone-products/34639/3 "2009-12-05T22:25:20Z")
I love the LS chemset A1. Works great for defeating PMS and other female emotional upheavals. One or 2 drops are more effective and less smelly than IFM ever was. ---
**Author:** ![Hyper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hyper/32/1326_2.png) [@Hyper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hyper)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 2:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-or-other-androstadienone-products/34639/4 "2009-12-06T02:07:03Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > I love the LS chemset A1. Works great for defeating PMS and other female emotional upheavals. One or 2 drops are more effective and less smelly than IFM ever was. I thought Androstadienone is the molecule that smells so bad, so how can the LS chemset smell less but be more effective? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![JJ54](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ea666f/32.png) [@JJ54](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JJ54)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 3:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-or-other-androstadienone-products/34639/5 "2009-12-06T03:40:10Z")
Androstadienone from LS has a sublte smell which is very good compared to IFM. Plus its just as strong, if not more stronger than IFM. But you will have to try it out for yourself in order to make your own judgment on it ---
**Author:** ![Butcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f08c70/32.png) [@Butcher](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Butcher)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 5:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-or-other-androstadienone-products/34639/6 "2009-12-06T05:15:35Z")
A1 from LS smells like a chemical mixture, no surprise there huh 😉 It’s easily covered with any cologne. One drop will get you a long way, 2 drops is very good. Be aware though that Androstadienone can cause depression for some men. It’s rare, but it happens. Search this forum for it. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 7:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-or-other-androstadienone-products/34639/7 "2009-12-06T07:20:06Z")
> [@TheNitehawk](#): > > I thought Androstadienone is the molecule that smells so bad, so how can the LS chemset smell less but be more effective? 😕 You thought wrong. Pure A1 has a mild sweat-like scent. IFM has a bunch of buffering and steering mones to help defeat the depression some men experience and are the source of the terrible stink in IFM. ---
**Author:** ![Hyper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hyper/32/1326_2.png) [@Hyper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hyper)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 12:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-or-other-androstadienone-products/34639/8 "2009-12-06T12:02:47Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > You thought wrong. Pure A1 has a mild sweat-like scent. IFM has a bunch of buffering and steering mones to help defeat the depression some men experience and are the source of the terrible stink in IFM. Ok sounds interessting. I should give it one more chance =) ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 3:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-or-other-androstadienone-products/34639/9 "2009-12-06T15:22:10Z")
I know enough has been said on the topic at hand but yeah A-1 really doesn’t smell bad. For me androstadienone is pretty neutral and very easy cover. I used to like it a lot but I try to use it sparingly because girls do get used to it. Funny thing is it really can make girls cuddly though XD. ---
**Author:** ![jakeable83](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f1d935/32.png) [@jakeable83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jakeable83)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 8:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-or-other-androstadienone-products/34639/10 "2009-12-07T20:44:26Z")
Are you suppose to mix the A1 from love scent with your cologne or other mone products or can you layer it with just the dropper? ---
**Author:** ![Reclipse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reclipse/32/773_2.png) [@Reclipse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Reclipse)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 9:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-or-other-androstadienone-products/34639/11 "2009-12-07T21:07:14Z")
I actually just put in an order for chemset A1 to be delivered later this week. Very excited about this. Also awaiting my current order from here so this should be a great testing week ---
**Author:** ![Sicpric](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/da6949/32.png) [@Sicpric](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sicpric)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 7:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-or-other-androstadienone-products/34639/12 "2009-12-09T19:37:12Z")
Anyone have reports of A1 and TUTH being paired up? I’m interested in how that will turn out. ---
**Author:** ![Logos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/aeb1de/32.png) [@Logos](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Logos)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2012, 7:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-or-other-androstadienone-products/34639/13 "2012-03-31T19:14:26Z")
> [@Sicpric](#): > > Anyone have reports of A1 and TUTH being paired up? I’m interested in how that will turn out. I know that this is an old thread, however… Androstadienone tends to be a very good buffer for -none, making it more acceptable without making it less masculine. I understand New [Pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) Additive is something like an A1 and -none mix. So basically androstadienone should improve TUTH. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2012, 1:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-or-other-androstadienone-products/34639/14 "2012-04-01T01:55:37Z")
Yup, A1 is a good buffer for none/TUTH but it needs something else in there - Depneding on the situation/people concerned, either the strength and status of A314, the suaveness of IG or the happy-chatty bubblieness of nols/IO. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2012, 1:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-or-other-androstadienone-products/34639/15 "2012-04-01T01:57:47Z")
> [@Logos](#): > > I understand New Pheromone Additive is something like an A1 and -none mix. > > So basically androstadienone should improve TUTH. So I believe, although the only source I’ve seen for this is Bruce from Lovescent and he gave no info on dose/proportion and I have used NPA with a little extra A1 and found it does smooth the rough edges nicely. 🙂