# IFM overdose what happens? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 5, 2008, 5:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-overdose-what-happens/9695 "2008-03-05T05:42:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![spiderweb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@spiderweb](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/spiderweb)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 5:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-overdose-what-happens/9695/1 "2008-03-05T05:42:09Z")
Can someone tell what happens if [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) od happens? also Instant Shine od happens? ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 9:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-overdose-what-happens/9695/2 "2008-03-05T09:20:20Z")
If you’re thinking strong negative reaction leading to flight, fright or fight syndrome, I don’t think most women can OD from IFM. It’s difficult to have too much comfort, relaxation or happiness! I’ve tried both high and low doses around my GF, females coworkers, etc., and found it generally imparts a subtle mood enhancement. If they’re bleeding, the mood enhancement can be dramatic. However, IFM can cause a sort of OD for a large minority of men: depression. I don’t suffer depression from A-1 or IFM but many have reported mild to serve depression (including other males near the wearer), so it is best to keep dosage as low as needed to do the job. ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 9:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-overdose-what-happens/9695/3 "2008-03-05T09:43:36Z")
Gegogi, I’m a little jealous, you seem to be able to wear anything in any amount. What gives? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![rohitiyer10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ad7895/32.png) [@rohitiyer10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rohitiyer10)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 9:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-overdose-what-happens/9695/4 "2008-03-05T09:49:46Z")
he’s a phero machine…duh ---
**Author:** ![runnerxvr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@runnerxvr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/runnerxvr)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 10:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-overdose-what-happens/9695/5 "2008-03-05T10:06:46Z")
Hello guys! I’m one of those that suffer of IFM depression, so I never go over 2 sprays (regular strength). I’ve also noticed that also other males become less chatty. Yeah, that thing works damn good :-)!!! If I had a male room mate I’d spray his pillow with IFM and see how he reacts ;-). Just kidding, that’s too bad. Bad Franz (under effects of AMMO)!!! Franz, behave yourself!!! Franz, put your hands off that IFM bottle!!! See ya Franz ---
**Author:** ![malleus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/malleus/32/1722_2.png) [@malleus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/malleus)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 11:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-overdose-what-happens/9695/6 "2008-03-05T11:31:29Z")
For me, IFM overdose means smelling like cat piss all night. People WILL notice. ---
**Author:** ![Piolho](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/piolho/32/2271_2.png) [@Piolho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Piolho)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 2:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-overdose-what-happens/9695/7 "2008-03-05T14:10:30Z")
I must agree with the smell of female magic, is not the best ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 9:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-overdose-what-happens/9695/8 "2008-03-05T21:50:47Z")
> [@](#): > > or me, Instant Female Magic overdose means smelling like cat piss all night. People WILL notice. Part of the art of successfully using pheromones is learning how to effectively mask or cover the underlying funky musk. Nobody wants to smell like ass, pit or tinkle. Compared to androstenone, [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) is easy to cover and easy to test your cover’s effectiveness. ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 10:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-overdose-what-happens/9695/9 "2008-03-05T22:11:37Z")
wait, wait…you all use cover smells??? I thought I was supposed to smell like I just got from the gym. 😃 Actually though, I really haven’t used a cover scent for IMF before, never really smelled like anything before. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 12:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-overdose-what-happens/9695/10 "2008-03-06T00:04:46Z")
To my nose, IFM and it’s active mone, A-1, smells like pee and musky pit intermingled. Similar to androstenone but much milder. I suspect if you can’t smell it you may also not be able to smell androstenone. All women and many guys can smell it so cover it anyway for the sake of others. ---
**Author:** ![spiderweb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@spiderweb](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/spiderweb)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 3:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-overdose-what-happens/9695/11 "2008-03-06T03:41:28Z")
I suppose IFM contains Androsterone. I read it in one the threads in this forum. I am surprised even then it does not cause any problem if we od. Can I mix CTTM and IFM? ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 5:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-overdose-what-happens/9695/12 "2008-03-06T05:26:13Z")
[Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/)’s pheromones content is mostly androstadienone (A-1). It also contains trace amounts of another pheromone designed to reduce male depression. I’m willing to bet a mitt full of benjamins it ain’t Androsterone. Wouldn’y make one iota of sense to use rone. Maybe TAA. ---
**Author:** ![Kevin1501](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Kevin1501](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kevin1501)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 9:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-overdose-what-happens/9695/13 "2008-03-06T09:44:11Z")
The girls I knew LIKED the smell of it? That’s odd. I don’t mind it, it smells pretty good to me actually. Guess I can’t smell the [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/). ---
**Author:** ![malleus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/malleus/32/1722_2.png) [@malleus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/malleus)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 11:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-overdose-what-happens/9695/14 "2008-03-06T11:16:47Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Part of the art of successfully using pheromones is learning how to effectively mask or cover the underlying funky musk. Nobody wants to smell like ass, pit or tinkle. Compared to androstenone, Instant Female Magic is easy to cover and easy to test your cover’s effectiveness. I’m going to disagree with your assertion that [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) is easier to cover than -none, and with your assertion that -none has a stronger smell than IFM. I suspect our different opinions are the result of racial differences and -none production (I know I produce a ton naturally), but I really do not notice any bad smell with -none. Most of the people I have asked about this (white females) agree that -none (from Turn Up The Heat) either smells good or they can’t smell it. IFM seems to smell overwhelmingly of cat piss, and most others seem to agree, although there is an occasional report of not being able to smell it. In addition, I find covering the IFM to be exceedingly difficult–I can still smell it under cologne, even with a dry-down period. It is interesting that we have different reactions. It likely has to do with what we produce naturally or what we are more sensitive to. ---
**Author:** ![runnerxvr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@runnerxvr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/runnerxvr)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 11:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-overdose-what-happens/9695/15 "2008-03-06T11:42:40Z")
Hi guys, it’s interesting how some of us can feel so much difference between the smells of IFM and NONE products. Acutally, I never tried to smell pure NONE and pure andorstedienone (if I’m not wrong, it’s the main Phero of IFM). So, I can’t tell how they smell like. Anyway, I have IFM, AMMO and TUTH, and in none of them, I can feel smells like sweat or cat piss. And I’m also producing loads of NONE by myself… So, I feel that I’ve no problems of covering IFM with some cologne or with [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), as I only feel the alcohol smell of IFM. The only smell that I really don’t like is the one of A314… See ya Franz ---
**Author:** ![spiderweb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@spiderweb](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/spiderweb)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 4:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-overdose-what-happens/9695/16 "2008-03-06T16:16:44Z")
malleus, I am surprised with your comments about IFM’s smell. Did you check with females regarding IFM smell? Yesterday night I put one spray of IFM on my hand to check the smell but couldn’t smell much. I felt it has a light smell like the other phermones. I am an Asian. ---
**Author:** ![malleus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/malleus/32/1722_2.png) [@malleus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/malleus)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 4:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-overdose-what-happens/9695/17 "2008-03-06T16:22:18Z")
> [@spiderweb](#): > > malleus, > > I am surprised with your comments about Instant Female Magic’s smell. Did you check with females regarding IFM smell? Yesterday night I put one spray of IFM on my hand to check the smell but couldn’t smell much. I felt it has a light smell like the other phermones. I am an Asian. Several white females have told me they do not like the smell. Two have told me they don’t smell anything. I personally find the smell repugnant, but I can suck it up and wear it anyway. It is comforting to know there are people out there who don’t think I smell like cat piss. Androstenone does not smell bad to me. I am white, 26 years old, blood type O. ---
**Author:** ![Deeds407](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/deeds407/32/688_2.png) [@Deeds407](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Deeds407)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 10:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-overdose-what-happens/9695/18 "2008-03-06T22:23:35Z")
iv got a bottle of IFM but not had time to test it out yet might give it a go this week but im concerned about the smell situation anyone know the best way to cover it and what to use?? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2008, 1:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-overdose-what-happens/9695/19 "2008-03-07T01:20:49Z")
> [@](#): > > It is interesting that we have different reactions. It likely has to do with what we produce naturally or what we are more sensitive to. Actually no need to speculate as science has already answered that question. That is, it has nothing to do with what we produce naturally and everything to do with a certain inherited gene. About 30% of males are unable to smell androstenone due to the lack of a particular gene: > [@](#): > > They found that people with a functional copy of the gene, called OR7D4, made properly shaped receptors that accepted androstenone. But thirty percent of people had a variation of the gene (OR7D4 WM) that made a receptor into which the androstenone could not fit. The difference in the receptor was very small Gene l — just two amino acids differed — but the effects were pronounced. Those with the functional copy were eleven times more sensitive to androstenone than their counterparts. And that marked the first proof that a particular gene was responsible for a person’s ability to smell a certain odor. [Scent of a Man: Science Videos - Science News - ScienCentral](http://www.sciencentral.com/articles/view.php3?article_id=218393001&cat=1_2) [Genetic variation in a human odorant receptor alte…[Nature. 2007] - PubMed Result](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=ShowDetailView&TermToSearch=17873857&ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum) All cockroached outta another thread on this very subject: > [@Gene discovered that allows androstenone to be smelled](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/gene-discovered-that-allows-androstenone-to-be-smelled/9069): > > Full story [Here](http://www.sciencentral.com/articles/view.php3?article_id=218393001&cat=1_2)!! And here is [more](http://www.physorg.com/news121444318.html): ---
**Author:** ![jonno101](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jonno101/32/367_2.png) [@jonno101](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jonno101)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2008, 10:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-overdose-what-happens/9695/20 "2008-03-07T22:40:16Z")
First time I applied IFM I felt to retch - my stomache seriously agve me a brief gagging reflex. I had to hold my wrist away from me till it dried down. Then after that the smell seemed less and less each time I used it - must have goten used to it. It still stinks to my mind, but I don’t feel to gag anymore. I use it 5 days a week (1-2 drops) but find that it tends to make me feel a bit down by the end of the day - to the point where am thinking of stopping it altogether. It balances the 2 drops of A314 I use most work days and helps soften my signature from the A314. I wouldn’t call my issue OD as I’ve only been using it for 3 weeks, with weekends off it. I’ve taken to one To Go spray slightly dabbed off to minimise its effect. Anyone have any suggestions for an alternative counter-balance to A314, other than IFM? [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-overdose-what-happens/9695.md?page=2)