# IFM question? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 16, 2006, 7:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-question/151 "2006-02-16T07:13:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2006, 7:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-question/151/1 "2006-02-16T07:13:44Z")
Has there been any changes to the IFM mix since the original Revision 1 bottle before you guys started using the pretty labels? I got a bottle back sometime before November. Can’t remember the month off hand. It was back when the old store was up vendio. It’s a clear 1 fl oz. spray bottle with a simple experimone type label “IFM pre-release rv1”. ---
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2006, 12:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-question/151/2 "2006-02-16T12:53:25Z")
> [@Cloud9](#): > > Has there been any changes to the IFM mix since the original Revision 1 bottle before you guys started using the pretty labels? I got a bottle back sometime before November. Can’t remember the month off hand. It was back when the old store was up vendio. It’s a clear 1 fl oz. spray bottle with a simple experimone type label “IFM pre-release rv1”. honestly, i think of MHarris as the swedish chef character on the muppet show and i mean that in the very best way. very enthusiastic about his work and always cooking something up but with the way that he runs around the kitchen, sometimes there might be an extra chicken neck or carrot in the pot. 😃 i love my bottle of IFM! ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2006, 5:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-question/151/3 "2006-02-16T17:22:38Z")
Thankfully MHarris doesn’t type like the Swedish Chef talked… Was one of my fave characters. Him, Beaker, Dr. Honeydew, and \ Janice… But my fave Muppet show of all time was the adult-oriented “Land of Gorch”… If that ever make it to video I’m buying it! ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2006, 5:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-question/151/4 "2006-02-20T17:30:37Z")
> [@Cloud9](#): > > Has there been any changes to the IFM mix since the original Revision 1 bottle before you guys started using the pretty labels? I got a bottle back sometime before November. Can’t remember the month off hand. It was back when the old store was up vendio. It’s a clear 1 fl oz. spray bottle with a simple experimone type label “IFM pre-release rv1”. Yes, there have been small changes. I wouldn’t worry about it - they’re subtle changes in the feel. The basis of the product is still the same. ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2006, 5:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-question/151/5 "2006-02-20T17:32:55Z")
> [@josef](#): > > honestly, i think of MHarris as the swedish chef character on the muppet show and i mean that in the very best way. very enthusiastic about his work and always cooking something up but with the way that he runs around the kitchen, sometimes there might be an extra chicken neck or carrot in the pot. 😃 hahahahaha… I’m working my abs laughing at this one… I can’t believe I’m saying this, but – make fun of me some more! 🙂 > [@](#): > > i love my bottle of IFM! Awh, come on. You’re just using it. Admit it! You just love what it _does_ for you. ---
**Author:** ![International\_Playboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/48db29/32.png) [@International\_Playboy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/International_Playboy)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2006, 8:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-question/151/6 "2006-03-29T20:19:57Z")
> [@Rbt](#): > > But my fave Muppet show of all time was the adult-oriented “Land of Gorch”… If that ever make it to video I’m buying it! Was that the one they showed on the first season of Saturday Night Live? I understand the cast hated that segment, though it was a favorite of mine. ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2006, 10:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-question/151/7 "2006-03-29T22:48:27Z")
> [@International Playboy](#): > > Was that the one they showed on the first season of Saturday Night Live? I understand the cast hated that segment, though it was a favorite of mine. Yep, probably was on SNL (couldn’t rememeber…). Loved it. ---
**Author:** ![putativematrix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c0e974/32.png) [@putativematrix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/putativematrix)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2006, 5:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-question/151/8 "2006-04-17T05:16:30Z")
Ok, guys. I’m having trouble putting something together for myself that works. I have a bottle of IFM on the way. Instant shine seems to make people happy, but aloof and unresponsive to ME. I can admit, that I might like to have a little ATTENTION. I have a recipe of other [pheromones](https://a314.com/) that works, but they are women’s colognes and it makes me smell a little unmanly at higher concentrations. Can some people please fess up their best recipes, especially including IFM since that is the topic of this thread? I currently own IS, IO, P70 through P80 and TAF. IFM is on the way. Help, please… ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2006, 5:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-question/151/9 "2006-04-17T05:46:11Z")
> [@putativematrix](#): > > Ok, guys. I’m having trouble putting something together for myself that works. I have a bottle of IFM on the way. Instant shine seems to make people happy, but aloof and unresponsive to ME. I can admit, that I might like to have a little ATTENTION. I have a recipe of other pheromones that works, but they are women’s colognes and it makes me smell a little unmanly at higher concentrations. Can some people please fess up their best recipes, especially including IFM since that is the topic of this thread? I currently own IS, IO, P70 through P80 and TAF. IFM is on the way. Help, please… By women’s colognes, do you mean Realm for Women? Realm uses androstadienone/A1 (you’ll get a similar effect from IFM) and estratetraenol. Most other women’s [pheromone perfumes](https://a314.com/shop/) use alpha androstenol (which you have already in Instant Openness) or copulins (scent components that smell like a woman’s nether regions) Shine does have an attention getting aspect to it, and the reduction of personal space should be something you can use to your benefit. Are the sort of aloof, confidence aspects of it overriding the attention-getting and space reduction aspects? If so, you might try good ol’ androstenone with Shine. Even a small 2.5mcg a spray product, or TUTH, can generate a good deal of attention (with a good deal of nervousness, too, due it’s physical and sexual nature) P75 and P76, too, if they prove to be useful, may be very sexual or at least attention getting. Make sure you play the role of a man, too, and initiate. Some men get into pheromones because they’re deathly afraid of initiating… sometimes due to past rejection. However, WITH pheromones, your advances tend to be accepted far more. You get rejected less when you actually reach out, so it’s a great time to get over the past and make advances again. Pheromones also work fantastically with good ‘pick up’ systems that help teach you to what to do and say socially. I really like “The Mystery Method” featured in the bestselling book “The Game” by Neil Strass. Some others like David DeAngelo’s “Double Your Dating” series. ---
**Author:** ![putativematrix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c0e974/32.png) [@putativematrix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/putativematrix)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 5:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-question/151/10 "2006-04-18T05:32:29Z")
Since you mentioned androstedienone, what is the OD limit for it? Also how about an od limit on copulins. I don’t see that you sell copulins here. Thanks for the advice by the way, and you’re right, I am a bit shy. ---
**Author:** ![thr3shold](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thr3shold/32/2316_2.png) [@thr3shold](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thr3shold)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 5:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-question/151/11 "2006-04-18T05:43:09Z")
> [@putativematrix](#): > > Since you mentioned androstedienone, what is the OD limit for it? Also how about an od limit on copulins. I don’t see that you sell copulins here. Thanks for the advice by the way, and you’re right, I am a bit shy. Androtics does sell copulins, just not by themselves. They’re in Dirty, LAM, IJerk… ---
**Author:** ![putativematrix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c0e974/32.png) [@putativematrix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/putativematrix)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 7:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-question/151/12 "2006-04-18T07:13:25Z")
Also, what are the pheromones in ‘Inner Realm’? Thanks.