# IFM results on self

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-results-on-self/742>\
**Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [October 10, 2006, 3:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-results-on-self/742 "2006-10-10T15:02:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 3:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-results-on-self/742/1 "2006-10-10T15:02:43Z")

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anyone else here confused with IFM?  
i think its the only product that doesnt work on me at all.  
i have even used straight A1 (is that in it?) and couldnt catch a difference.  
i have experimented with IFM for a while now, am i alone in this result?😕

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**Author:** ![Mak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@Mak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mak)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 1:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-results-on-self/742/2 "2006-10-11T01:18:25Z")

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Lor, no you’re not alone.

Very little to no effect in my environment, either on others or self. It is the one product I ‘wanted’ it to work.

Went with long & varied tests, very mild effects, and none on myself.

Maybe some phero’s do not work well on specific skin type, do not know.

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**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 6:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-results-on-self/742/3 "2006-10-11T06:07:23Z")

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> [@Lor](#):
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> anyone else here confused with Instant Female Magic?  
> i think its the only product that doesnt work on me at all.
> 
> i have experimented with IFM for a while now, am i alone in this result?😕

This is indeed our A1 based product.

This is the molecule that’s going through the $800 million FDA process to become the first meidcal prescription [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/), intended to reduce PMS symptoms.

It’s probably the most university studied pheromone on earth. To look at studies, type in “androstadienone” here:

> **[PubMed](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/)**
>
> PubMed® comprises more than 40 million citations for biomedical literature from MEDLINE, life science journals, and online books. Citations may include links to full text content from PubMed Central and publisher web sites.

and here:

> **[Google Scholar](https://scholar.google.com/)**
>
> Google Scholar provides a simple way to broadly search for scholarly literature. Search across a wide variety of disciplines and sources: articles, theses, books, abstracts and court opinions.

It usually helps me when I’m feeling blue. My significant other gets in sort of a dour mood when exposed to too much. It’s a lesser or two evils sort of thing. Either I use this and perk up/treat him better, or I unleash _the wrath_! 😉

IFM is a little less harsh for me than straight A1, since we’ve made a few mood enhancing mods. It’s still kind of tough on guys who are negative responders, but just not _as_ tough. It’s more “man friendly”.

We’re releasing a new version just for women soon that brightens moods even better (at the expensive of reducing sexuality).

How long have you tried it out, and under what circumstances?

> [@](#):
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> i have even used straight Androstadienone (is that in it?) and couldnt catch a difference.

Does this mean that you don’t perceive an effect wearing straight A1, either? Maybe you’re just a non-responder. All the studies in the world won’t make it work for everyone.

The effect you’ll tend to notice on some guys around you, is that they become quieter than normal. They may also start to avoid you if you expose them too often to high dosages.

If it doesn’t help you when you’re having a bad day, don’t use it at all. For me, it’s a kind of Midol that works better.

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**Author:** ![gklite](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gklite/32/1489_2.png) [@gklite](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gklite)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 7:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-results-on-self/742/4 "2006-10-11T07:35:57Z")

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I have had best results from IFM except its mellowing effects which I dont like so I have to use it with A314. Its like a female attractant giving the weraer calm & relax mood, I also noticed I feel more romantic & same girl appeared to be more attractive to me than without it.  
Jasmin, is there any way to counter its mellowing effects?

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**Author:** ![Mak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@Mak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mak)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 12:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-results-on-self/742/5 "2006-10-11T12:08:44Z")

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> [@gklite](#):
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> Its like a female attractant giving the weraer calm & relax mood, I also noticed I feel more romantic & same girl appeared to be more attractive to me than without it.

Replies like that, which I’d measure by the ton, make me give the bottle a pop on its head.

Anyway, just realised I used around 2/3 of the bottle on skin, none on clothes, so will have a go with that.

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 12:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-results-on-self/742/6 "2006-10-11T12:52:55Z")

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ive experimented under all circumstances.  
i got it for that time of the month and i didnt even have a little effect.  
used it on myself just going out and didnt feel less edgy.  
used it by itself, and then in conjunction with other stuff. ive used straight A1 in all diff dilutions.  
i guess there will be a fraction of people out there who will be non-responders to it.

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**Author:** ![Mak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@Mak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mak)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 1:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-results-on-self/742/7 "2006-10-11T13:43:54Z")

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> [@Lor](#):
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> ive experimented under all circumstances.

That may sound strange. Did you / can you / try it on another person, that you may be in close proximity to for 1 hour or so ?

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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2006, 6:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-results-on-self/742/8 "2006-10-14T06:28:21Z")

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Hi Mak and Lor,

are you guys combining IFM with other mones. I find that IFM works much better when used as an addition to other [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) (such as ANol, BNol, TAA/IS, A314, etc.) Also don’t use too much - I find one full spray to my forehead or back of neck gives obvious results - women are friendlier towards me, they are more comfortable around me, they may be drawn towards me, and best of all alleviates aggression from my female flatmate who becomes a monster when she gets PMS lol. It works especially well on some ‘shyer’ woman but I have found pretty much all women respond well in one way or another.

Visionary

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**Author:** ![Mak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@Mak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mak)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2006, 4:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-results-on-self/742/9 "2006-10-14T16:18:46Z")

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> [@Socrates](#):
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> Hi Mak and Lor,
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> are you guys combining Instant Female Magic with other pheromones. I find that IFM works much better when used as an addition to other pheromones (such as Alpha Androstenol, Beta Androstenol, TAA/IS, A314, etc.) Also don’t use too much - I find one full spray to my forehead or back of neck gives obvious results - women are friendlier towards me, they are more comfortable around me, they may be drawn towards me, and best of all alleviates aggression from my female flatmate who becomes a monster when she gets PMS lol. It works especially well on some ‘shyer’ woman but I have found pretty much all women respond well in one way or another.
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> Visionary

I tried it alone and also with few primary products, not the comfort ones alone tho.

I’m slowly plotting mixes and applications variations. I have no doubt it works, obvious or subtly, but every single phero has its specific ‘homing’ usage for every single person.

I need those 50 clones, so I can test faster …

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**Author:** ![gklite](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gklite/32/1489_2.png) [@gklite](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gklite)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2006, 9:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-results-on-self/742/10 "2006-10-15T09:57:22Z")

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I found one spray on my back on shirt would do enough.  
Visionary: How did you counter its mellowing effects? I always use it with A314. Except A314 most of the pheromones which create my desired effects on others always effect me the way I don’t want.

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 1:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-results-on-self/742/11 "2006-10-16T13:51:32Z")

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> [@Mak](#):
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> That may sound strange. Did you / can you / try it on another person, that you may be in close proximity to for 1 hour or so ?

yeah ive tried that too.  
ive tried using other mixes with it,and by itself.  
im sure it doesnt help that i got sent an unscented version (not what i ordered) but i do cover it, so that wouldnt be it.

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**Author:** ![Mak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@Mak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mak)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 2:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-results-on-self/742/12 "2006-10-16T14:28:54Z")

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Well, because that phero has a ‘female’ note to it, I’ll continue exploring it …

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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2006, 8:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-results-on-self/742/13 "2006-10-19T08:45:05Z")

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> [@gklite](#):
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> I found one spray on my back on shirt would do enough.  
> Visionary: How did you counter its mellowing effects? I always use it with A314. Except A314 most of the pheromones which create my desired effects on others always effect me the way I don’t want.

Gklite, I don’t wear IFM everyday firstly. I found [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and straight TAA useful as well as Realm (which contains minute amounts of Est) but these would only counter the negative effects for short periods and not do a complete job.

For me, the mellowing effects are countered by logical thinking lol. Seriously I know what specific effects IFM has one me: negative thoughts come to my head, and I feel low on energy to do tasks and even to talk. So when I get a negative thought in my head I just realise it is the IFM doing its ‘bad magic’ on me and just think that the negative thought is not based on reality. So I believe it can make the wearer mentally stronger in that way (‘overcoming adversity’). With regards to the tiredness, if I need to get something done I will usually take a green tea, very dark chocolate or a Vitamin B complex (just a mild stimulant to give me some ‘up and go’ - I am a bit of a health nut so I would take these anyway at other parts of the day).

Visionary

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2006, 1:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-results-on-self/742/14 "2006-10-20T13:07:52Z")

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i dont wish to give the impression i have given up on it, im actually considering wearing it to encourage friendliness in the women around me.  
it doesnt have to be “my thing” in order to be someone elses thing,lol.  
i do however add shine to it, dont want my men friends all serious…
