# IFM users - advice, please **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 7, 2006, 3:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-users-advice-please/192 "2006-03-07T15:05:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![stratslinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7bcc69/32.png) [@stratslinger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stratslinger)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 3:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-users-advice-please/192/1 "2006-03-07T15:05:07Z")
I’m almost late leaving for work. I changed my initial order from TUTH to IFM, based on Jasmin’s observation that the molecule in TUTH may actually have a reverse effect and turn off my wife, when obviously I want the “Turn On” factor to prevail. My wife is very sensitive to fragrances and as a result, I haven’t worn after shave or cologne in about 15 years. So I’ve been away from home for 2 weeks and 2 days. Had to take a job in the big city and she’s 190 miles away. My first homecoming is Friday. I’m really counting on the IFM to be here by then. So, I want to “stoke her fire” after our time apart 😃 . How much IFM should I use? I’m 50, but healthy and pretty fit. She’s 43, healthy but with low libido. Thanks. Hope the paragraph formatting is working this time. ---
**Author:** ![Aurelie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aurelie/32/1914_2.png) [@Aurelie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aurelie)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 6:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-users-advice-please/192/2 "2006-03-07T18:07:19Z")
LOL, yes the formatting is working fine. I think Jasmin steered you the right way with IFM as opposed to TUTH. TUTH has -none in it. If I remember correctly from research I read (sorry I cannot find the link) -none can be poorly perceived unless women are right in the middle of their cycle. I own IFM myself, even though it is marketed for men. My latest experience with it? Saturday morning I was trying to get better motivated to go work out. Even though the decision was already made I was feeling lackluster about the prospect of it. So I decided to try 2 sprays of IFM and one spray of Spaceland (heavy -nol). Ten minutes later, in the car, this Sanatana song comes on. I turn it up high. Boy, good thing I’m on an untraveled mountain road with no speed traps. I’m flying, singing at the top of my lungs. Developing an attitude. Deciding I “will show them” in work-out class! So this being said, I do believe it will be a good product to put her in a “happy” mood. But remember though, [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) are not this magic thing that make people do things. They just enhance the experience. You still need to do “the work”. ---
**Author:** ![stratslinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7bcc69/32.png) [@stratslinger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stratslinger)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2006, 6:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-users-advice-please/192/3 "2006-03-10T06:13:40Z")
Hope the formatting works today. First of all, is there a [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) that would help with sleep? I’m having a hard time sleeping for the last couple weeks. Tomorrow I FINALLY get paid . I moved in on Sunday afternoon (Feb 19), unpacked, went to a jam session that night, then went to work 7:30 the next morning. Typing 8 hours a day, then coming home to my apartment, replete with cardboard boxes holding my belongings, and typing 3-4 hours more. I’ve managed to hit a couple more jams since then, but I’ve been here 2 weeks, 3 days and all I’ve done is **WORK**. Anyway, I started work on the first day of a NEW PAY PERIOD. This is BAD ☹ . Went way too long without money. Had to sell a guitar. I’m really bummed about that 😕 . It’s like cutting off a digit and selling it for $60. That’s what I got…$60. But I got some gas in the tank, a few groceries and made it to PAYDAY 😃 !! And tomorrow I go home to see my family for 3 days…and my WIFE. Tomorrow I’m going in for a haircut. I met a lady who did a nice job the first time a couple weeks ago…she’s probably my age…late 40’s, maybe early 50’s. Attractive. I’m going to spray some IFM IN MY HAIR (2 sprays) an hour before the haircut and observe what happens. And will wear A314, put some on my neck. The first time she cut my hair, I learned she has a 21 year old son who just got a HUGE tattoo on his back…and I found out she’s divorced. But she was very professional giving me a haircut. I’m not trying to hook up, just want to see if the IFM and A314 will affect her as she cuts my hair. She’ll practically be WALLOWING in the stuff 😃 ! And of course, tomorrow night, my much anticipated homecoming with my gorgeous wife of 18 years. It’s been so weird for us being apart these last 2 weeks after being together just about EVERY DAY, ALL DAY for the past 9 years (self-employed). I’m gonna use 4 sprays of IFM and 3 drops of A314 about an hour before she gets home. I tested these already and am very, very thrilled that the scent is so minimal. So, I’ll have some reporting to do on Monday. BTW, I wore A314 when I went to work today. I mean, I just sit at a computer and type. But I did have a lot more verbal interaction with the lady who distributes the work. She sits about 8 or 9 feet behind me. I had a small desk fan running, as the room is pretty stuffy. I didn’t think much of it, as sometimes I just have to talk with her for work related stuff. But we did talk an awful lot today. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2006, 8:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-users-advice-please/192/4 "2006-03-10T08:45:37Z")
You’re very very welcome, stratslinger! I’m really excited to hear what your results will be today! > [@](#): > > Saturday morning I was trying to get better motivated to go work out. Even though the decision was already made I was feeling lackluster about the prospect of it. So I decided to try 2 sprays of IFM and one spray of Spaceland (heavy -nol). Ten minutes later, in the car, this Sanatana song comes on. I turn it up high. Boy, good thing I’m on an untraveled mountain road with no speed traps. I’m flying, singing at the top of my lungs. Developing an attitude. Deciding I “will show them” in work-out class! Hahahahaha… Wow, Aurelie, this sounds like a FANTASTIC effect! This attitude came about when you applied IFM to _yourself_? Where were your application points? I’d figure for a self-effect you’d put it on your face or around your nose, right? I’ve noticed I feel GREAT around IFM wearers. It can relieve some really sticky social tension… My IFM’d hubby and I never bicker or otherwise fuss. He (and my male friends 'round here upon whom I’ve foisted products) usually wears varying ratios of Shine/IFM/A314, and you know what? I usually _always_ forget all about his pheromonal halo until very far after the fact, where I recount on the day’s happenings and gawk in amazement that, “Gee, these miracle potions _must_ work!”. I get lovey and fun and happy-go-lucky. I demand kisses for everything. I dance around, get ditzy, gesticulate more… And with -none products, even small doses in the 2.5 mu range, I get 😠IRRITABLE 😠. Small, stupid things set me off because I perceive an “attitude”… Think “It’s not what you said, but how you said it.” -None gets me passionate, make no mistake about it, but with me, it’s not a _sexula_ passion, its more of a finely focused “deathray of disgust” pointed _passion_ately at a guy’s forehead. And I’m sorry about the poor fellows who wear none and cross my warpath, because i can flurry myself into a rage over the most idiotic of things! An innocuous little remark like, “Honey, the oven timer just went off.” will sound like, “You f\*\*\*\*\* b\*\*\*\* you burnt my f\*\*\*\* potatoes and i f\*\*\*\* hate you!!!”… and I will react accordingly. No joke! This happens even as I consciously repeat in my head “calm down, this is a none OD” It doesn;t seem to happen so much when the none doses are in a reeeal trace range, in the nanogram range. And I look forward to hearing results on the Great Androstenone Experiment we’re having all this month, because maybe we can figure out how to make a product with none that’s more sex and less Instant IHateYou. 😉 But I’m off track here!! IFM… Where are my male IFM users? I know you’re lurking! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2006, 3:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-users-advice-please/192/5 "2006-03-10T15:29:21Z")
Hang in there girl! I’m working on it! I too have decided that -none is just “too dangerous” despite all the supposed “great things” that it is supposed to cause sexually. I did pick up a 2.5 Experimone just in case, but I’m not sure if I will ever find a use for it outside of general testing “to see what happens.” I’ve ony had my IFM, IShine, and IOpen for about 10 days now, but so far in those situations where I’ve been wearing a combo of them and I’m in the company of women (a bit rarer than I’d like…) I haven’t seen anything but neutral to positive results. Nothing negative at all. In fact more positive all the way around than neutral. Currently using ratios of IFM IO IShine in the 2:2:2 range. Even though I’m over 50 yo I’m a type O as well, and I have a hunch I may still be churning out enough -none that any added -none is an OD. Plus I note that one of my primary test subjects seems to be -none sensitive in a negative manner. We shall see. ---
**Author:** ![stratslinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7bcc69/32.png) [@stratslinger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stratslinger)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2006, 3:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-users-advice-please/192/6 "2006-03-10T15:41:07Z")
Hi Rbt,I’m curious about your post You said that you were type O blood type, right? And because of that, despite your age (I’m 50), you should still be producing sufficient -none. Is that a correct interpretation? Anyway, my real experimentation begins later today when I go in for a haircut. I might shave my mustache, as well. I have a nice soul patch and will keep that. Hey, I’m a blues player!! My wife likes the 'stache, but I’ve noticed that only older guys wear a mustache these days. Well, I guess at 50, I qualify as an older guy. But I’m ready to make a few minor changes in my appearance like that…different hair style. So I’ll try to be very observant and post my results early next week. ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2006, 4:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-users-advice-please/192/7 "2006-03-10T16:00:53Z")
I can see as a guy when you get older you’d probably want to shave more often. me I’m fixing to turn 23 and I feel doing the 4-5 day no shave scruff look women really like more often than not. Ofcourse I never like the whole mustache thing on me though. I’d say at age 50 you’d still have lowered Anone output regardless of bloodtype. We still know very little about bloodtype none production. For men age 30 is when Anone and other internal hormones start to decline regardless of bloodtype. I use 2-4 sprays IFM for specifically dates or if I start a relationship with someone. Once in a relationship You can start using IFM during the time when she is PMSing and period. And other times you can leave it out for your sake. Because IFM can cause you to mellow out a bit..or even a slight depression. More mellow than depression with the current IFM, because it has corrective factors in it for men. Anone and TUTH type products work best during times of ovulation on women. Seems that any other time women can be repulsed by it to varying degrees. So you can see how being in a relationship with a girl can really be to an advantage of knowing when to use Anone. use it at the right time and you can really drive her crazy! Correct me if I’m wrong, but ovulation generally takes place around 2weeks after a womans period. I know some women can actually feel some minor pains in her lower abdomen during ovulation as the egg drops down from the ovaries. ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2006, 4:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-users-advice-please/192/8 "2006-03-10T16:15:01Z")
> [@stratslinger](#): > > Hi Rbt,I’m curious about your post…you said that you were type O…blood type, right? And because of that, despite your age (I’m 50), you should still be producing sufficient -none. Is that a correct interpretation?.. Although I don’t have any firm scientific proof to quote, it seems to be a general belief that men who are blood type O have a tendency to produce more -none, and for a longer number of years than others. Based on the negative reactions I’ve gotten from females when I’ve tried using heavy -none based products (like Primal Instinct), wven when “buffered” by other pheromones or products, I’m thinking that may be the case. (The negative reactions are generally “becoming defensive” and/or pulling back and being uncomfortable. I have yet to see anything “positive” from -none.) > [@](#): > > Anyway, my real experimentation begins later today when I go in for a haircut. I might shave my mustache, as well. I have a nice soul patch and will keep that. Hey, I’m a blues player!! My wife likes the 'stache, but I’ve noticed that only older guys wear a mustache these days. Well, I guess at 50, I qualify as an older guy. But I’m ready to make a few minor changes in my appearance like that…different hair style, I’m still using lots of … because I’m not sure the formatting is working properly…I’ve noticed my smilies don’t work, either. Or any of the formatting icons…So I’ll try to be very observant and post my results early next week. Remember Shakespear’s line about all the world is a stage, and the men and women merely players. You can think of your appearance as part of your “character,” your “costume.” Go by what feels right for you, or that works for you. A 'stache may fit your “character” just fine. Don’t let let others dress you, unless you want them to… Be _who_ YOU are. Oddly enough I grew one in college after being in a number of plays. Why? Because with every character they had me play they stuck a mustache on me! So after looking in the mirror a few times I realized it looked good and “made my own.” So I’ve had mine for over 30 years. Try trimming it in different ways. Small, short, wide, long, bushy. Just remember a poorly kept beard is worse than none at all… The good news is you can always (usually) grow it back if you decide to experiment and go without. ---
**Author:** ![Aurelie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aurelie/32/1914_2.png) [@Aurelie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aurelie)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2006, 5:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-users-advice-please/192/9 "2006-03-10T17:31:53Z")
I agree with Rbt on going with the look that YOU feel most comfortable with. Re beards, mustaches etc. You know what I find really hot these days? It’s that 2 day stuble. Makes a man look manly IMHO. That is if you can get away with it professionaly. Since I started liking that, I have noticed that many movie stars sport that look. But you can’t let it get too long, though. I also really believe that working out increases one’s natural output of --none. I’m too scatter-brained right now to back it up with explanations though. ---
**Author:** ![Aurelie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aurelie/32/1914_2.png) [@Aurelie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aurelie)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2006, 5:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-users-advice-please/192/10 "2006-03-10T17:39:04Z")
> [@Cloud9](#): > > Correct me if I’m wrong, but ovulation generally takes place around 2weeks after a womans period. I know some women can actually feel some minor pains in her lower abdomen during ovulation as the egg drops down from the ovaries. You are correct. If you take the first day of a woman’s period as being Day 1, then ovulation should theoretically happen on day 14. Give or take a couple of days. Not all women have a perfect 28 day cycle. ---
**Author:** ![Aurelie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aurelie/32/1914_2.png) [@Aurelie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aurelie)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2006, 7:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-users-advice-please/192/11 "2006-03-10T19:28:38Z")
Quote Aurelie: Saturday morning I was trying to get better motivated to go work out. Even though the decision was already made I was feeling lackluster about the prospect of it. So I decided to try 2 sprays of [IFM](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) and one spray of [Spaceland](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/) (heavy -nol). Ten minutes later, in the car, this Sanatana song comes on. I turn it up high. Boy, good thing I’m on an untraveled mountain road with no speed traps. I’m flying, singing at the top of my lungs. Developing an attitude. Deciding I “will show them” in work-out class! Quote Jasmin: Hahahahaha… Wow, Aurelie, this sounds like a FANTASTIC effect! This attitude came about when you applied [IFM](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) to _yourself_? Where were your application points? I’d figure for a self-effect you’d put it on your face or around your nose, right? Yes, I did apply it in such a fashion as to have the maximum effect on ME. I sprayed the IFM on my wrists and then immediately pressed them to my upper lip, side of my nose. Spaceland, just one good squirt on my neck. My guess is that the one spray of Spaceland caused me to drive too fast and sing at the top of my lungs. And that the IFM caused me to feel very confident about my athletic abilities and wanting to show them off! 🙄 Now, if all of this is placebo effect, I don’t care. It’s the bottom-line result that matters to me! ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2006, 7:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-users-advice-please/192/12 "2006-03-10T19:32:37Z")
I’ve seen IFM put women in a really warm relaxed mood to where not much of anything bothers them. ---
**Author:** ![texaspete](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/texaspete/32/1612_2.png) [@texaspete](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/texaspete)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 5:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-users-advice-please/192/13 "2006-10-24T05:02:44Z")
I’ve had nothing but positive effects with 4 sprays of IFM alone. 4 sprays of IFM and 2 drops of A314 also works well. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 5:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-users-advice-please/192/14 "2006-10-24T05:43:53Z")
> [@gabe1970](#): > > I’ve had nothing but positive effects with 4 sprays of Instant Female Magic alone. > 4 sprays of IFM and 2 drops of A314 also works well. I’ve never gone up to 4 sprays IFM… what sort of results did you get with that, and 4 IFM/2 A314? ---
**Author:** ![texaspete](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/texaspete/32/1612_2.png) [@texaspete](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/texaspete)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 5:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-users-advice-please/192/15 "2006-10-24T05:53:35Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > I’ve never gone up to 4 sprays Instant Female Magic… what sort of results did you get with that, and 4 IFM/2 A314? I wore 4 sprays of [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) and a drop-dead gorgeous twentysomethng co-worker I dreaded working with was unusually, uncharacteristically sweet and charming. She normally curses like a sailor and rants, whines and bitches. I saw _NONE_ of that, and when I say sweet, I mean _unbelievably_ sweet to the point of almost being affectionate and doting. There was no other way I could explain her behavior other than saying that IFM works. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 6:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-users-advice-please/192/16 "2006-10-24T06:05:46Z")
> [@gabe1970](#): > > I wore 4 sprays of [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) and a drop-dead gorgeous twentysomethng co-worker I dreaded working with was unusually, uncharacteristically sweet and charming. She normally curses like a sailor and rants, whines and bitches. I saw _NONE_ of that, and when I say sweet, I mean _unbelievably_ sweet to the point of almost being affectionate and doting. There was no other way I could explain her behavior other than saying that IFM works. I just read your post in the other thread. Cool stuff. Did you cover it with anything? I’m going to have to try 3, 4 and 5 sprays of IFM. ---
**Author:** ![texaspete](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/texaspete/32/1612_2.png) [@texaspete](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/texaspete)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 6:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-users-advice-please/192/17 "2006-10-24T06:07:04Z")
Nope, no cover scent. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 6:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-users-advice-please/192/18 "2006-10-24T06:09:33Z")
> [@gabe1970](#): > > Nope, no cover scent. Maybe that’s what was making everyone wonder what smelled funky when you were out at the bookstore. lol I can’t figure out how some women have such bad responses to the scent, while others don’t smell it. I know a woman who can smell it if I spray it once, and she’s usually down the hall and in a different room! ---
**Author:** ![texaspete](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/texaspete/32/1612_2.png) [@texaspete](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/texaspete)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 6:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-users-advice-please/192/19 "2006-10-24T06:17:21Z")
I’ve been told at work that it smells like I’m wearing baby Oil, and “That’s just not right.” And the bookstore smell was smegma. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 6:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-users-advice-please/192/20 "2006-10-24T06:22:59Z")
> [@gabe1970](#): > > I’ve been told at work that it smells like I’m wearing baby Oil, and “That’s just not right.” > > And the bookstore smell was smegma. Never heard baby oil from IFM… “It stinks!”, “Something’s funky!”, “Smells kinda like hay, to me…” and “I don’t smell anything”. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-users-advice-please/192.md?page=2)