# IFM VS Ishine

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-vs-ishine/9008>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [February 9, 2008, 5:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-vs-ishine/9008 "2008-02-09T05:24:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2008, 5:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-vs-ishine/9008/8 "2008-02-10T17:47:05Z")

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> [@My stupid newbie tricks](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-stupid-newbie-tricks/6369/1):
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> STOP If you are new and have not read this thread byZeph Ksages great expectations post Another great post that may help many guys by Fire and Ice Wow, the two month mark! I might as well post a few of my less than stellar phero adventures. I wouldn’t have listened to me but there may be some smarter noobs out there who will heed these remarks. First order was A314, Instant Openness, Instant Honesty, Instant Shine, [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), Turn Up The Heat, CTTM. smiley I think the mo…

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