# IG + a bunch of IH **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 3, 2010, 3:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-a-bunch-of-ih/43708 "2010-12-03T03:36:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Noble](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/noble/32/1768_2.png) [@Noble](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Noble)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 3:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-a-bunch-of-ih/43708/1 "2010-12-03T03:36:16Z")
Hey guys. I wanna run something by you real quick. Get some opinions, or even advice, if you feel I need it. Anyway, how’s this sound? 3X [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) togo 6X Instant Honesty togo _(and maybe a little P83? Just a tad?)_ Using that in a high school. There’s someone I want to make a move on tomorrow, and I’ve been reading some users’ experiences with Instant Honesty 4X. Sounds surprisingly good, but I don’t have the 4X concentration, so… 6 togo sprays? 😉 Ha, but I want this sort of, fast, deep connection thing, you know? A “fall in love” effect. Lately she’s been showing a bit of interest in me, so there’s definitely some attraction there already. But I want to take this a little further. _Romance!_ I want it to just knock her her off her feet. Will this do the trick? Any amendments or additions are welcome. ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 3:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-a-bunch-of-ih/43708/2 "2010-12-03T03:53:06Z")
> [@Noble](#): > > Hey guys. I wanna run something by you real quick. Get some opinions, or even advice, if you feel I need it. > Anyway, how’s this sound? > > 3X Instant Gentleman togo > 6X Instant Honesty togo > _(and maybe a little P83? Just a tad?)_ > > Using that in a high school. There’s someone I want to make a move on tomorrow, and I’ve been reading some users’ experiences with Instant Honesty 4X. Sounds surprisingly good, but I don’t have the 4X concentration, so… 6 togo sprays? 😉 > > Ha, but I want this sort of, fast, deep connection thing, you know? A “fall in love” effect. Lately she’s been showing a bit of interest in me, so there’s definitely some attraction there already. But I want to take this a little further. _Romance!_ I want it to just knock her her off her feet. Will this do the trick? Any amendments or additions are welcome. Hey Noble… What ethinicity is your target? IH, though, would work wonders with most any ethnicity, I would think…though I would ask if you have AMMO? Possible adding 1 spray of AMMO with 2 of IG and those 6 of IH…If not, then, just the 2 of IG and the 6 of IH would do you good, I think… Then take to refresh about 5 hours into the day… Try to get a project together where you have to be working closely for several minutes at least for the mones to waif and do there thing while you speak suavely to her… What are you expecting from [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/)? ---
**Author:** ![Noble](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/noble/32/1768_2.png) [@Noble](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Noble)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 4:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-a-bunch-of-ih/43708/3 "2010-12-03T04:01:10Z")
Ethnicity? Caucasian. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) I have, but I don’t like it very much. I don’t mind a shot or two of TUTH, though. It’s worked in the past. And yeah, proximity won’t be an issue. I’m just wondering, is that TOO much stuff? ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 4:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-a-bunch-of-ih/43708/4 "2010-12-03T04:12:12Z")
> [@Noble](#): > > Hey guys. I wanna run something by you real quick. Get some opinions, or even advice, if you feel I need it. > Anyway, how’s this sound? > > 3X Instant Gentleman togo > 6X Instant Honesty togo > _(and maybe a little P83? Just a tad?)_ > > Using that in a high school. There’s someone I want to make a move on tomorrow, and I’ve been reading some users’ experiences with Instant Honesty 4X. Sounds surprisingly good, but I don’t have the 4X concentration, so… 6 togo sprays? 😉 > > Ha, but I want this sort of, fast, deep connection thing, you know? A “fall in love” effect. Lately she’s been showing a bit of interest in me, so there’s definitely some attraction there already. But I want to take this a little further. _Romance!_ I want it to just knock her her off her feet. Will this do the trick? Any amendments or additions are welcome. You do realize that 4x Instant honesty really is just a fancy name for 4 sprays of instant honesty 1x? Dude your supposed to instigate comfort over time on a girl socially and pheromonally and not just pop lots of IH hoping you’ll get closer to her. She might end up really weirded out that shes divulging whatever she ends up divulging to you. If you try to rush the comfort stage with her I believe it will backfire on you my friend. But in the end do what you will. Its simply a suggestion on my part. ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 4:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-a-bunch-of-ih/43708/5 "2010-12-03T04:18:18Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > You do realize that 4x Instant honesty really is just a fancy name for 4 sprays of instant honesty 1x? > > Dude your supposed to instigate comfort over time on a girl socially and pheromonally and not just pop lots of IH hoping you’ll get closer to her. She might end up really weirded out that shes divulging whatever she ends up divulging to you. If you try to rush the comfort stage with her I believe it will backfire on you my friend. > > But in the end do what you will. Its simply a suggestion on my part. Though it seems that he’s had a social relationship with this gal a while so…he’s ready to make a move…Yes, IH may be a bit much…but won’t know until you try, she might go ga-ga with that application level or not… You have a point in that if she isn’t ready to share those intimate thoughts, she may get weirded out… or she may go into a feeling of trust for Noble… really, much has to do with the ‘Noble Approach’… But, I think Noble, that you realize that…eh? ---
**Author:** ![samuraitea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/samuraitea/32/1998_2.png) [@samuraitea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/samuraitea)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 4:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-a-bunch-of-ih/43708/6 "2010-12-03T04:18:54Z")
I personally say IG(2), IH if IO use that (3 or 4) AMMO(1~2) and [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/)(25mcg~40mcg). I think it will help her see that you are a handsome young man who has great potential, with the IO/IH + P83 you get some real closeness in too. But that for me sounds like WAY too much IH you seriously are in the OD range…well for me at least. ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 4:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-a-bunch-of-ih/43708/7 "2010-12-03T04:28:12Z")
> [@samuraitea](#): > > I personally say IG(2), IH if IO use that (3 or 4) AMMO(1~2) and P83(25mcg~40mcg). I think it will help her see that you are a handsome young man who has great potential, with the IO/IH + P83 you get some real closeness in too. But that for me sounds like WAY too much IH you seriously are in the OD range…well for me at least. I’d put forth that IH at those levels won’t get into an OD as it is 70% betanol… this will will give a deeper sense of trust and the rest of the Alphanol will get her really opening up…you actually may get some sillyness from her and a real relaxed sensation from her with the Alphanol…THOUGH, if you put the P83 variable, the IH should be brought down to 2 to 3 sprays… THIS is all supposition as WE DON’T know what her reaction is to ANY [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) as it is.. this is just my experience with these products… It’s getting into an interesting conversation on which mone will provide the Oomph that Noble wants…🆒 ---
**Author:** ![samuraitea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/samuraitea/32/1998_2.png) [@samuraitea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/samuraitea)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 4:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-a-bunch-of-ih/43708/8 "2010-12-03T04:32:07Z")
I am sorry Alpha you are correct, I got my IS and IH mixed up 😛 silly silly me! But I would like to think the [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) will add some fun for Noble that I think he might be looking for 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 4:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-a-bunch-of-ih/43708/9 "2010-12-03T04:38:35Z")
> [@1Alpha](#): > > Though it seems that he’s had a social relationship with this gal a while so…he’s ready to make a move…Yes, IH may be a bit much…but won’t know until you try, she might go ga-ga with that application level or not… > > You have a point in that if she isn’t ready to share those intimate thoughts, she may get weirded out… or she may go into a feeling of trust for Noble… really, much has to do with the ‘Noble Approach’… > > But, I think Noble, that you realize that…eh? Fair enough. I’ve seen too many people post with writing such as this that try to overcompensate with the signature and not think through what “they” are gonna do when it comes to projecting themselves. People think that mones are the projection of the person and that is true in a natural sense. In the case of it being successful with synthetic mones it really should be that the mones are the “Projector” and you are the “Projection”. Anyway the situation will resolve itself one way or another. Its within his power to make it work. ---
**Author:** ![Aghor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aghor/32/1558_2.png) [@Aghor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aghor)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 6:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-a-bunch-of-ih/43708/10 "2010-12-03T06:05:27Z")
I would strongly suggest not to rush in with so much IH. while IH may not have any significant negative side effect unlike none based stuff, at heavier doses it can sometimes lull you into a comfortable silence. not a good thing at earlier stages when you are trying to build a relationship. and add some ammo ( a teeni bit.) and dont fucking use tuth now ---
**Author:** ![Deja\_Vu](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/deja_vu/32/256_2.png) [@Deja\_Vu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Deja_Vu)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 8:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-a-bunch-of-ih/43708/11 "2010-12-03T08:59:37Z")
Have you tried IH around her before? I used IH around my friend who was pretty close to me _once_ and she just went quiet, like she was uncomfortable or something. What’s her personality like? ---
**Author:** ![whs06c](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whs06c/32/2142_2.png) [@whs06c](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/whs06c)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 1:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-a-bunch-of-ih/43708/12 "2010-12-03T13:32:49Z")
I think I tried IH @ 10 sprays before and it was pretty intense for me. A lot of people were spilling the beans and what not. Do you have any IS? Throw that in there. ---
**Author:** ![leaf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ec9cab/32.png) [@leaf](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/leaf)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 2:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-a-bunch-of-ih/43708/13 "2010-12-03T14:41:32Z")
i would say to much IH 6 sprays wow!! i never been that high with any [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/). ---
**Author:** ![leaf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ec9cab/32.png) [@leaf](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/leaf)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 2:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-a-bunch-of-ih/43708/14 "2010-12-03T14:43:04Z")
> [@whs06c](#): > > I think I tried IH @ 10 sprays before and it was pretty intense for me. A lot of people were spilling the beans and what not. > > Do you have any IS? Throw that in there. 10 sprays 😮 ---
**Author:** ![Aghor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aghor/32/1558_2.png) [@Aghor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aghor)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 4:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-a-bunch-of-ih/43708/15 "2010-12-03T16:21:19Z")
> [@Deja\_Vu](#): > > I used IH around my friend who was pretty close to me _once_ and she just went quiet, like she was uncomfortable or something. What’s her personality like? what was the dosage. IH at high doses can put you into a comfortable silence. IN other words, you would feel so comfortable around the person that you wont feel the need for conversation. 😃 even if u get a wiff of your own IH heavy dose, it would happen to you too.. not just the gir or friend who is with you… handle carefully 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Noble](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/noble/32/1768_2.png) [@Noble](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Noble)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 8:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-a-bunch-of-ih/43708/16 "2010-12-03T20:34:17Z")
> [@Aghor](#): > > what was the dosage. IH at high doses can put you into a comfortable silence. IN other words, you would feel so comfortable around the person that you wont feel the need for conversation. 😃 even if u get a wiff of your own IH heavy dose, it would happen to you too.. not just the gir or friend who is with you… handle carefully 😛 Ding ding ding, we have a winner. Yeah, I tried it. After reading everyone’s replies, this is what I put on myself today: 3X IG 6X IH 2X Ammo 25 mcg of P83 And I’ve learned that IH actually _hurts_ my effects I’m trying to give off. At least in high doses. Oh, horrible day. The [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) affected me as well as everyone else, and like you said, everyone got REALLY quiet and sluggish. I don’t know how to properly describe it; it was just like, no one was very sociable and I _couldn’t_ be sociable. Even when I tried my hardest, what came out of my mouth was mediocre at best. I felt like I ended up putting the girl off at the time, although now that I’m reflecting on it it can’t be too bad. lol, I bet everyone else felt GREAT, really relaxed. Not me, though. I had a difficult experience today. I said I _felt_ like I’d put her off today. Normally this kind of thing would cause me to be upset with myself a little anyway, but guess what? Today, I was wearing _Ammo_, which never tends to help me at all. I dont know what I was thinking this morning! Anyway, the -None made me more aggressive with myself, and that only made things worse. Once my head gets going in the wrong places, it’s hard to keep in check. I felt very empty, if that makes sense. See, it’s a weird predicament I’m in: I started studying all sorts of pickup artists, techniques, all that stuff, very recently, and I’ve learned a lot. I honestly feel like I can make anyone fall in love with me in a matter of minutes, I’ve progressed so quickly. But the real reason I learned all this was to go after _her_. And I’m not really attracted to her as much as I was a month ago. Not nearly as much. But I don’t feel like anyone else would make me happy if I were to go after them. So, in a way, you could say I’m not attracted to _anyone_. Very scary, when you’ve spent 45 days internalizing a million ways to charm women into your natural thought process. And I can’t really take an interest in stuff I used to like anymore, I just can’t. I’ve outgrown it all. Yeah, that’s what was going through my head. It was like I’d lost everything. No goals, no desires, just **blank**. Not a fan. It’s wearing off now, and I’m glad I figured out not to do it again. I need the weekend to clean myself up. Next week, keeping it simple: IG, IS. IH, maybe we can talk later, but there is NO WAY I’m letting you be the main thing. ---
**Author:** ![snipesho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@snipesho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/snipesho)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 8:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-a-bunch-of-ih/43708/17 "2010-12-03T20:53:57Z")
I was going to post and say I was in the same situation as you described but I decided not to. But now your above post honestly describes my exact thoughts. I wore 2 sprays IG, 3 sprays 2x IH and 1 spray ammo. I didnt feel like talking to anyone really and I felt the same emptiness you describe. Its almost weird how spot on you are. ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 9:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-a-bunch-of-ih/43708/18 "2010-12-03T21:42:20Z")
> [@Noble](#): > > Hey guys. I wanna run something by you real quick. Get some opinions, or even advice, if you feel I need it. > Anyway, how’s this sound? > > 3X Instant Gentleman togo > 6X Instant Honesty togo > _(and maybe a little P83? Just a tad?)_ > > Using that in a high school. There’s someone I want to make a move on tomorrow, and I’ve been reading some users’ experiences with Instant Honesty 4X. Sounds surprisingly good, but I don’t have the 4X concentration, so… 6 togo sprays? 😉 > > Ha, but I want this sort of, fast, deep connection thing, you know? A “fall in love” effect. Lately she’s been showing a bit of interest in me, so there’s definitely some attraction there already. But I want to take this a little further. _Romance!_ I want it to just knock her her off her feet. Will this do the trick? Any amendments or additions are welcome. A really great mix. Pretty hard to fault really. [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) and Instant Honesty together work perfectly, and your intuition about wearing a little bit of p83 with them is spot on too. My only advice would be to tone down the Instant Gentleman to 2 sprays. Unless you have some p74 to de-mature it a little. 3 sprays is perhaps a bit _too_ gentlemanly. Other than that I think the mix is great. I wouldn’t “make the move” the same day I introduce a new pheromone signature but play it by ear. Good luck. ---
**Author:** ![Deja\_Vu](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/deja_vu/32/256_2.png) [@Deja\_Vu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Deja_Vu)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2010, 1:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-a-bunch-of-ih/43708/19 "2010-12-04T01:43:16Z")
> [@Aghor](#): > > what was the dosage. I think it was about 2 sprays of 2x IH. > [@snipesho](#): > > I didnt feel like talking to anyone really and I felt the same emptiness you describe. Yahtzee dude. I felt empty as well, and the girl friend that I was with didn’t talk as much as well, and she is a VERY CHATTY type of person. 😮 ---
**Author:** ![Noble](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/noble/32/1768_2.png) [@Noble](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Noble)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2010, 2:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-a-bunch-of-ih/43708/20 "2010-12-04T02:12:18Z")
Hahaha! Well, it was a learning experience! I know I made it sound awful, but now that it’s the late evening I am so happy I did it! Make no mistake, I will most certainly NOT be doing it again! But, I think that “empty” feeling I had was very helpful. Allow me to explain: I felt bad. Terrible. But, when that effect wore off an hour or two ago… it really puts things into perspective. I am SUPER happy right now! I think all that IH actually made me admit things to _myself_ that I’d been in a bit of denial about, and now I feel… _“fresh”_, I think, is a good word. Hey, good enough for me; I’m gonna run with it. This weekend is all about me. I’m gonna fill every moment with positivity and productivity. You know what? I do believe I’ve got from this ordeal exactly what I needed: that one missing piece on the edge of the puzzle that is “inner game”… That one small, but glaring flaw in your presentation that brings it down. Like Van Gogh’s “Starry Night” painting without the moon. Androtics, you’re brilliant! [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-a-bunch-of-ih/43708.md?page=2)