# IG+IJ: Let the games begin!

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-ij-let-the-games-begin/44395>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [January 5, 2011, 11:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-ij-let-the-games-begin/44395 "2011-01-05T11:40:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ps86651](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ps86651/32/206_2.png) [@ps86651](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ps86651)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 11:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-ij-let-the-games-begin/44395/1 "2011-01-05T11:40:38Z")

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Thanks to AD’s superfast (and I mean, superfast!) service, I received a bottle of IG today along with an IJ to-go…(many thanks for the gift!).

I’ve searched all of the posts relating to these combos (IG+IJ) and they certainly look very interesting…I’ll be starting out with 2 sprays IG and 1 spray IJ. I’m normally an A314 man through-and-through, so it’ll be fun testing out these new products (new for me!) and seeing all of the reactions that they ellicit!

Any hints or tips, especially on IJ? I understand from my research that this is a “volatile” product…that’s why I’m keeping my initial tests a very low dosages.

All of my findings will be posted here…let the games begin!

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 10:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-ij-let-the-games-begin/44395/2 "2011-01-05T22:37:05Z")

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I think you’re going to have a blast with IJ. The idea is not to be a jerk though, just be friendly and you’ll still come across as that bad-boy. IJ creates ONS and I do hope you’re prepared to dominate your city 😉

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**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 12:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-ij-let-the-games-begin/44395/3 "2011-01-06T00:20:38Z")

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[Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) is a very fun product and you really shouldn’t worry to much about bad effects. It may be high in -none, but whatever the hell the did to buffer it down and get the image it sends across is genius. I used to wear it around my dorm last year when I still lived on campus, and let me tell you it grabs attention very quick!

Like steve said, you don’t need to act like a jerk when wearing it. They will sense that hint of danger it gives off and love every second of it 🙂

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**Author:** ![azazel249](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/azazel249/32/1585_2.png) [@azazel249](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/azazel249)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 12:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-ij-let-the-games-begin/44395/4 "2011-01-06T00:46:27Z")

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I need to try it also I have two togo’s of it marinating on the shelf.

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**Author:** ![ronnierw](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ronnierw/32/511_2.png) [@ronnierw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ronnierw)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 10:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-ij-let-the-games-begin/44395/5 "2011-01-06T22:34:09Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> I think you’re going to have a blast with IJ. The idea is not to be a jerk though, just be friendly and you’ll still come across as that bad-boy. IJ creates ONS and I do hope you’re prepared to dominate your city 😉

Steve hit it on the nose IMO. I am very biased toward IJ and my first combo with IJ was IG. I have several times in the past month or so used up to 10 shots of IJ with no negative effect, keep it light and friendly and IJ will do the rest. I have been busy with the holidays, moving and work that i hadnt been keeping my Journal up to date. May latest entry may give you even more insight on just where the Jerk can take you. Have fun!!!

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 11:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-ij-let-the-games-begin/44395/6 "2011-01-06T23:17:29Z")

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HOLY F-ing F-Sticks! 10 sprays of IJ? You have to fill us in. I might have to emulate that 😉

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**Author:** ![psylocybin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee7513/32.png) [@psylocybin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/psylocybin)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 12:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-ij-let-the-games-begin/44395/7 "2011-01-07T00:03:04Z")

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isnt it like 12.5 mcg/spray??? Did you buffer it at all?? Max I’ve used was 2 cuz my sweetspot’s \<1

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**Author:** ![ronnierw](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ronnierw/32/511_2.png) [@ronnierw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ronnierw)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 4:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-ij-let-the-games-begin/44395/8 "2011-01-07T16:21:55Z")

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> [@psylocybin](#):
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> isnt it like 12.5 mcg/spray??? Did you buffer it at all?? Max I’ve used was 2 cuz my sweetspot’s \<1

Can’t say it was really buffered when I had my IJ showers, used A314a one time and 3 sprays of IG another with 50mcgs of [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) to boot. If i had any buffer it was attitude attitude attitude, my mentality and deciding to just have fun and keep it light. Everytime with IJ has been a goodtime for me and others I meet.🙂

Oh, and I went with the large doses because I along with others was waiting on Thegentlemans report of his experiment, we never saw it and I had 30ml burning a whole on the shelf begging to get out. So I figured what they heck. I would do it again just because; but feel 4 to 6 with some socials works just fine for me.

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 5:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-ij-let-the-games-begin/44395/9 "2011-01-07T17:07:52Z")

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That’s close to 140-150mcg of Androstenone, that is A LOT

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**Author:** ![ronnierw](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ronnierw/32/511_2.png) [@ronnierw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ronnierw)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 10:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-ij-let-the-games-begin/44395/10 "2011-01-07T22:03:33Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
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> That’s close to 140-150mcg of Androstenone, that is A LOT

I know ;but I have yet to hit a wall with it. I am content with the lower doses though. Just wanted to shake that bad experience monkey off the Jerk and see for myself what would happen.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 10:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-ij-let-the-games-begin/44395/11 "2011-01-07T22:44:42Z")

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In the interest of science of course 😉, I’m giving this a shake tonight.

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**Author:** ![ronnierw](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ronnierw/32/511_2.png) [@ronnierw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ronnierw)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 10:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-ij-let-the-games-begin/44395/12 "2011-01-07T22:49:20Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> In the interest of science of course 😉, I’m giving this a shake tonight.

Go fot it I say. I can’t wait to get your take on it. Are you going to add any socials or other products. I know you love some shine.

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**Author:** ![azazel249](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/azazel249/32/1585_2.png) [@azazel249](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/azazel249)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 10:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-ij-let-the-games-begin/44395/13 "2011-01-07T22:53:02Z")

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[quote=“Steve”]

In the interest of science of course 😉, I’m giving this a shake tonight./QUOTE

I might head out tonight also so I am gonna give it a try. Not as many sprays as that dude because a lot of people get shot for no good reason around here. I don’t want the investigators laughing at my corpse when they find togo of jerk in the little pocket of my jeans 😉

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**Author:** ![ronnierw](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ronnierw/32/511_2.png) [@ronnierw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ronnierw)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 11:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-ij-let-the-games-begin/44395/14 "2011-01-07T23:01:27Z")

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> [@azazel249](#):
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> > [@Steve](#):
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> > In the interest of science of course 😉, I’m giving this a shake tonight.
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> I might head out tonight also so I am gonna give it a try. Not as many sprays as that dude because a lot of people get shot for no good reason around here. I don’t want the investigators laughing at my corpse when they find togo of jerk in the little pocket of my jeans 😉

LMAO

I never really thought about the negatives, especially at the level you are thinking. I would not recommend more than 3 or 4 sprays for anyone especially if you are going with a preconception that something bad “can” happen.  
For me its a mindset. I already have a who cares attitude when I put on the Jerk; but I always keep it light and fun. with or without mones, if you enter something with an expectation you are setting yourself up for dissappointment. If you enter expecting bad things, you make it that much easier to be self fulfilling. Stupid is as stupid does and all that. works both ways.  
having said all that, have a few sprays, through on a social or 2 and HAVE FUN with it and create and “experience”

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**Author:** ![azazel249](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/azazel249/32/1585_2.png) [@azazel249](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/azazel249)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 11:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-ij-let-the-games-begin/44395/15 "2011-01-07T23:14:00Z")

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[quote=“ronnierw, post:14, topic:44395”]

> [@azazel249](#):
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> LMAO
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> I never really thought about the negatives, especially at the level you are thinking. I would not recommend more than 3 or 4 sprays for anyone especially if you are going with a preconception that something bad “can” happen.  
> For me its a mindset. I already have a who cares attitude when I put on the Jerk; but I always keep it light and fun. with or without mones, if you enter something with an expectation you are setting yourself up for dissappointment. If you enter expecting bad things, you make it that much easier to be self fulfilling. Stupid is as stupid does and all that. works both ways.  
> having said all that, have a few sprays, through on a social or 2 and HAVE FUN with it and create and “experience”

I hear ya but stuff just happens around here jealousy anger etc. Example when we go out with the mones on I kinda do worry sometimes because the most intense hits have been from women with their boyfriends. New Years a hot blonde was staring my cousin down to the point her bf had to wave his hand in front of her eyes to break it. Not good if you got some gang banger with something to prove.

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**Author:** ![ronnierw](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ronnierw/32/511_2.png) [@ronnierw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ronnierw)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 11:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-ij-let-the-games-begin/44395/16 "2011-01-07T23:53:24Z")

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[quote=“azazel249, post:15, topic:44395”]

> [@ronnierw](#):
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> I hear ya but stuff just happens around here jealousy anger etc. Example when we go out with the mones on I kinda do worry sometimes because the most intense hits have been from women with their boyfriends. New Years a hot blonde was staring my cousin down to the point her bf had to wave his hand in front of her eyes to break it. Not good if you got some gang banger with something to prove.

Lol, the reason I started my journal was because of a hot woman who couldn’t keep her hands or her mouth off of me. I later found out she “kinda” had a BF a few days later. She still is trying to hang out with me and lately has implied that she has no strings; but, I am not buying it. She even told me how much of a douche he was and she brought him in one night while I was Jerked up and we hit it off, don’t get me wrong he is a douche. Bottom line it, you could walk in to a bar with no mones tip you head at the bartenter you know indicating serve you your usual and some guy in the same area that just had an argument with his girl may think you just hit on her and single you out. you can’t control what other people do; but keep your wits about you and you have the potential to “guide” them. I don’t care how “thug” they are…that does not mean splash on IJ and try to Obe’ Wan your way out lol.

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**Author:** ![azazel249](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/azazel249/32/1585_2.png) [@azazel249](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/azazel249)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 5:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-ij-let-the-games-begin/44395/17 "2011-01-08T17:41:53Z")

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Tried one shot last night with some shine I had a good time. Didn’t come off so jerky I suppose, one girl decided she was going to sit with me on a one person bar stool too bad I was drunk and in love with my gf lol

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**Author:** ![ronnierw](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ronnierw/32/511_2.png) [@ronnierw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ronnierw)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 6:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-ij-let-the-games-begin/44395/18 "2011-01-08T18:56:55Z")

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> [@azazel249](#):
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> Tried one shot last night with some shine I had a good time. Didn’t come off so jerky I suppose, one girl decided she was going to sit with me on a one person bar stool too bad I was drunk and in love with my gf lol

Glad you had a good time. I never tried just IJ and IS. How much Shine did you use?

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**Author:** ![azazel249](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/azazel249/32/1585_2.png) [@azazel249](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/azazel249)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 7:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-ij-let-the-games-begin/44395/19 "2011-01-08T19:14:33Z")

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> [@ronnierw](#):
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> Glad you had a good time. I never tried just IJ and IS. How much Shine did you use?

I used 2 sprays of 2x, I probably should have tested the jerk alone, but I was feeling a little tired from sitting around so I used it for a mood lift.

My girl and I will probably head out and I will apply two sprays of jerk alone..She is interested in the new hobby so she will look out for hits also.

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**Author:** ![England](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/england/32/1163_2.png) [@England](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/England)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2011, 9:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-ij-let-the-games-begin/44395/20 "2011-01-09T21:58:22Z")

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> [@ps86651](#):
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> Any hints or tips, especially on IJ? I understand from my research that this is a “volatile” product…that’s why I’m keeping my initial tests a very low dosages.
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> All of my findings will be posted here…let the games begin!

I look forward to your posts on IJ and IG since I’ve recently bought them for the first time myself. Check out the last page in my journal for a couple of insightful (I hope) entries on IJ.

So far I really love the stuff and can already envisage it being in my permanent collection.
