# IH+IO=? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 8, 2015, 9:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ih-io/64150 "2015-04-08T21:17:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![phantom000000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/db5fbb/32.png) [@phantom000000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phantom000000)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 9:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ih-io/64150/1 "2015-04-08T21:17:12Z")
Hey guys I was looking for feedback before I go ahead and make the purchase of IH and IO with both at 4x those strength. I purchased Ammo, IS, and TUTH (All Regular strength) and I didn’t notice any difference in others. IS did become a slight mood elevator but not enough to say it was special however it did have a crash effect on me… TUTH does smell nice but I never noticed any IOIs or any other form of lingering from women… Ammo does exactly the same thing, great smell but no clear effect… **Anyways back to the question; What would be the predicted or experienced effects of mixing both Instant Honesty and Instant Openness at four times the strength?** My follow-up questions being; What would happen if I add a raw sexual [pheromone cologne](https://a314.com/shop/) on top of that? (Any recommendations as to what Sexual Pheromone, as well as what strength level) The goal of our friend and I’s experiment is to get clear hits from women which is why we chose Honesty max strength. The description of myself: I’m a 21 year old Hispanic (Mexican) Introvert Male which a few extra pounds (love handles and a small belly) and glasses. I’m totally comfortable with not speaking but I often engage and can easily become the active voice in a group of other introverts. I’m usually in my own head and won’t put much effort into speaking to others if I don’t feel any form of depth to your thinking. I know I’m a beta male. Pride and Sex appeal are not my thing even though I can dress fairly classy (Cardi and button shirt with jeans). Anyways I’m rambling so I’d appreciate you guys’ and gals’ help on this, Thanks a lot and I appreciate it :3! ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 7:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ih-io/64150/2 "2015-04-09T07:14:45Z")
I don’t think you should start out with 4x. You would do just fine with 2x. Combining IH and IO is very common. They work well together. That is actually the basis for CTTM mixes. There should be a reduction in approach anxiety, and an increase of social interaction. Try these a few times in various settings without adding a sexual, first. When you do add a sexual, start out with a low dose and increase gradually over successive testings. If you start out too strong with a sexual, it can actually intimidate women into avoiding you. If you start low and then work up, you can discover what your ideal effective dose is. Also, there is a concept known as “ghosting” that can happen if your pheromone dose is too high. A person’s senses are bombarded with pheromone signals to the point that they don’t know what to make of it, and so they just ignore you. Overdosing is not good. Different women respond differently, too. Latinas generally respond well to higher doses of sexual pheromones, while Asian women do not. Asian women need very low doses of a sexual pheromone, or sometimes they respond best to only [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/). So you see, less is often more. The typical approach is to start out low and gradually increase, testing every step of the way. ---
**Author:** ![phantom000000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/db5fbb/32.png) [@phantom000000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phantom000000)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 9:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ih-io/64150/3 "2015-04-09T21:24:09Z")
Thanks, I appreciate a detailed response now the only issue at hand is what do I need to be looking out for. **What would I expect from these 2 [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) mixes. Anybody have any predictions or experiences?**