# IH relaxes my stressed wife but I can't use TUTH: what would add a spark?

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**Created:** [July 6, 2010, 5:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ih-relaxes-my-stressed-wife-but-i-cant-use-tuth-what-would-add-a-spark/39847 "2010-07-06T17:21:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![Maladapted](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3da27b/32.png) [@Maladapted](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maladapted)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 5:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ih-relaxes-my-stressed-wife-but-i-cant-use-tuth-what-would-add-a-spark/39847/1 "2010-07-06T17:21:48Z")

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Sorry for the Ron Burgundy title…

So I am enjoying my IH, and can’t use the TUTH 2.5 I received as a gift. If I had to guess I already have a high -none level.

This is where my question comes in. IH works perfectly for relaxing myself, and to a degree others ( wife included ). She is also very stressed at this time (bar exam time), and the IH seems to be relaxing her. I can’t seem to steer her to lower her inhibitions, and (how do I put this) have a little fun 😉.

I already plan on getting IS, but would like to add in something that could add that spark (of course purely for educational purposes). Any ideas?

Mal-adapted

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 5:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ih-relaxes-my-stressed-wife-but-i-cant-use-tuth-what-would-add-a-spark/39847/2 "2010-07-06T17:24:46Z")

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[P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) might work for you. If you have any empty to go’s you can spray TUTH in there and spray 1-2 sprays of your own cologne to dillute it. You’re gonna have to play around a little cause it’s not exact how much your cologne would yield. But either way its less than the 5mcg per spray that TUTH 2x has.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 5:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ih-relaxes-my-stressed-wife-but-i-cant-use-tuth-what-would-add-a-spark/39847/3 "2010-07-06T17:59:09Z")

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Out of curiosity why cant you use TUTH ?

To lower inhibitions I suggest [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) and something with A1 in it which is not sold here. You can look for dial magnetic body wash at the drugstore. That has A1 in it.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![Maladapted](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3da27b/32.png) [@Maladapted](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maladapted)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 6:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ih-relaxes-my-stressed-wife-but-i-cant-use-tuth-what-would-add-a-spark/39847/4 "2010-07-06T18:20:48Z")

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> [@tisha23](#):
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> Out of curiosity why cant you use TUTH ?
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> To lower inhibitions I suggest P83 and something with A1 in it which is not sold here. You can look for dial magnetic body wash at the drugstore. That has A1 in it.
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> Tisha

I seem to OD on it with 1 spray.

People won’t look at me, I’m already very intimidating without mones.

The parfum smells nice, but at the same time it seems to irritate the heck out of me (angry?). My wife tells me to take a shower if I put it on (usually after 30 minutes around her)…

I’ll look into dial magnetic, and p83

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**Author:** ![Bearcat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bearcat/32/739_2.png) [@Bearcat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bearcat)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 7:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ih-relaxes-my-stressed-wife-but-i-cant-use-tuth-what-would-add-a-spark/39847/5 "2010-07-06T19:40:26Z")

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I second [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/). It is a fantastic molecule. Also, P83 and IH are pretty good together.

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**Author:** ![Maladapted](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3da27b/32.png) [@Maladapted](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maladapted)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 7:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ih-relaxes-my-stressed-wife-but-i-cant-use-tuth-what-would-add-a-spark/39847/6 "2010-07-06T19:54:29Z")

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how much p83 would be recommended to start with?

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 7:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ih-relaxes-my-stressed-wife-but-i-cant-use-tuth-what-would-add-a-spark/39847/7 "2010-07-06T19:59:20Z")

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If you’re getting the 5ml size then 12.5 mcg/spray. I got the 30ml and I got 10 mcg/spray.

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**Author:** ![Maladapted](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3da27b/32.png) [@Maladapted](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maladapted)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 4:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ih-relaxes-my-stressed-wife-but-i-cant-use-tuth-what-would-add-a-spark/39847/8 "2010-07-07T04:24:58Z")

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Ok, got the dial magnetic. I have to say, definitely an mmm smell good response from her. Me too, It really does smell good. Seemed to have mellowed her out from the stress too…

This stuff has a strong red dye in it (marketing, it fades quickly). Does not wash off fully, there is a slight left over residue that seems to hold the scent.

Sprayed 2 2x IH on wrists along with it, and had the small kind of laughter that comes with a buzz from a bottle of good unfiltered beer (her too)…

Will keep posted

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**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 4:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ih-relaxes-my-stressed-wife-but-i-cant-use-tuth-what-would-add-a-spark/39847/9 "2010-07-07T04:44:49Z")

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MEO-EST is supposed to be very good, it’s my next purchase 🙂

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 9:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ih-relaxes-my-stressed-wife-but-i-cant-use-tuth-what-would-add-a-spark/39847/10 "2010-07-07T09:31:54Z")

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> [@](#):
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> This stuff has a strong red dye in it (marketing, it fades quickly). Does not wash off fully, there is a slight left over residue that seems to hold the scent.

I know, it needs to leave a residue so the molecules dont go down the drain. Its not what I would suggest for a person looking for a excellent body wash but A1 is hard to get because Erox who partnered on this product with dial holds the patent. Its not bad for its purpose though.

A1 gives a calming feeling of ease and well being to women. Its masculine. It increases feelings of affection. The ease it causes is the key. It seems to open women up to being more agreeable to new experiences so it helps with inhibitions.

[P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) is a dis inhibitor but also brings out the sensual in a person. They feel more sensual and it shows in their body language and behavior.

The IH is a good choice to. It increases feelings of connection and opens them up on a deeper level.

Dont rule out your TUTH just yet either. If you tried it on its own and she didnt like it you can try buffering it. Go slow. Use 1/2 a spray then **cover** with at a 3 to 1 ratio. So you would use 1/2 spray of tuth covered by and 2 to 3 sprays of IH with one of those spray directly on top of the TUTH.

TUTH is strong so it could have been the sudden dramatic change in your signature that she didnt like. She is trying to process why she suddenly feels different and she is associating it to the smell of the anone.

Where did you apply it when you tried it ? If its bothering you apply farther away from the face. Wrists are good for testing because you can wash them easy enough if you run into trouble.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![Maladapted](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3da27b/32.png) [@Maladapted](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maladapted)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2010, 3:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ih-relaxes-my-stressed-wife-but-i-cant-use-tuth-what-would-add-a-spark/39847/11 "2010-07-12T03:29:04Z")

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Thanks tisha, I gave tuth another chance. This time a half spray to an elbow (I tend to talk with my hands, hazzards of my line of work), and it is more tolerable. Also, no “Go Shower” effect. But, it also seems to have little effect in general.

Better effect was a 12 mi cycling session, shower with body eclipse spa club products, and the dial mag on shoulders/ upper arms. I will just leave it with a " 🙂 "  
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I ordered p83/IS to help lower those maybe moments… and see how it goes…

Mal
