# IH vs IO: how do their effects differ in your experience? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 25, 2010, 12:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ih-vs-io-how-do-their-effects-differ-in-your-experience/39595 "2010-06-25T00:35:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 12:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ih-vs-io-how-do-their-effects-differ-in-your-experience/39595/1 "2010-06-25T00:35:51Z")
If you could help a guy out. I have both and I’ve noticed almost the same effects with it. Can you guys share your experiences with it, even if its just one product. Anyone who have used it as a standalone will be great too. Thanks a bunch ---
**Author:** ![thundercat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thundercat/32/2345_2.png) [@thundercat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thundercat)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 12:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ih-vs-io-how-do-their-effects-differ-in-your-experience/39595/2 "2010-06-25T00:49:26Z")
For me i noticed that IO makes people more chatty around me and easier to conversate with. IH makes people act like they trust me and are more open about there answers to me. Perhaps not as chatty as IO but defintly has a trust vibe going on for me. So it’s “Im cool, you can tell me anything” IH vs “Im a pretty good person to chat with, whats up?” IO ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 4:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ih-vs-io-how-do-their-effects-differ-in-your-experience/39595/3 "2010-06-25T04:55:45Z")
I’ve used both. At first I liked IO because it helps to create a light fun vibe and a lot of chit chat. Frankly I prefer [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/), people seem just as talkative as IO but it’s a lot deeper. And as a side effect it enhances trust…it’s probably the closest realistic product for the effects touted by liquid trust as you can get. Try a spray of IH with A314 and you can sell anything to anybody. IO is fun and all but it doesn’t have the trust enhances effects that IH has and really think that’s the big difference. ---
**Author:** ![hillke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@hillke](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hillke)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 5:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ih-vs-io-how-do-their-effects-differ-in-your-experience/39595/4 "2010-06-25T05:40:56Z")
hrm, I haven’t used IH much but IO really, gets people talking. Wearing enough of that I can turn a relatively quiet classroom into a really loud one. If I remember correctly, ingredient speaking, these two products are the inverse of eachother on their two main ingredients. IO is something like 70/30 alpha/beta and IH is 30/70 if that helps. I’ll have to find the post, it was something about how the two of them together made CTTM2… ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 12:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ih-vs-io-how-do-their-effects-differ-in-your-experience/39595/5 "2010-06-25T12:54:57Z")
Yeah IO is 70% Alpha 30 beta and IH is the opposite