# IJ = Bad start

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-bad-start/44091>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [December 21, 2010, 5:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-bad-start/44091 "2010-12-21T05:25:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![thebigQ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ee7513/32.png) [@thebigQ](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thebigQ)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 6:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-bad-start/44091/21 "2010-12-21T18:03:26Z")

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> [@kairn](#):
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> Thanks BigQ. From what you say, this is more serious than I thought - i.e. pheromones make lasting impressions, same as people’s behavior or personality? This can be helpful and a pitfall - depending on how we use them…! Very interesting…

Kairn, I would not go far as to use the term “lasting impression” more like a preconceived impression of you. They lady would tend to take those perceptions and see them whether or not they are there, especially if they have not met you before or hardly know you. I believe you can change a persons perception of you after a while and I also believe pheromones work best on strangers or people you hardly know and take a while to affect those we know.

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**Author:** ![GorMas2020](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gormas2020/32/197_2.png) [@GorMas2020](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GorMas2020)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 6:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-bad-start/44091/22 "2010-12-21T18:18:18Z")

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> [@KingKhan](#):
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> Hey I wasnt out to accomplish anything other than pure testing. I.ve used the same combination in the same scenario earlier too but the reaction I got today was the most blatant and unbiased. Now I know the power of IJ. But what confuses me is why did I not get such a reaction in my earlier attempts.  
> By the way, I live in Dubai and the subjects mentioned were of Asian origin, from India to be specific. So am I. Both were in their late 30s to early 40s. I am 47.  
> And it’s not hot and humid here at this time of the year. Temps around 26C.  
> Anymore dissections?

I think IJ is that way and I don’t trust it’s effects at work, because there is always a chance of a super bad reaction. I can’t afford to have these types of reactions good or bad at my job even though my experiences with IJ have been wonderful.

I was also mostly just kidding around. HAhaHA too much JERK for you…j/k don’t kick my puppy 😛

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**Author:** ![KingKhan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kingkhan/32/1073_2.png) [@KingKhan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KingKhan)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 6:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-bad-start/44091/23 "2010-12-21T18:35:41Z")

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> [@GorMas2020](#):
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> I think IJ is that way and I don’t trust it’s effects at work, because there is always a chance of a super bad reaction. I can’t afford to have these types of reactions good or bad at my job even though my experiences with IJ have been wonderful.
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> I was also mostly just kidding around. HAhaHA too much JERK for you…j/k don’t kick my puppy 😛

Continuation of effects through the day…

…the guy who gave me dirty stare this morning, was at his worst through the day. One thing I did notice though that my Syrian colleague, a lady of around 45 was her usual flirty self.  
…so it’s also about nationalities. Different races percieve the same [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) signature in different ways.

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**Author:** ![kairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4da419/32.png) [@kairn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kairn)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 6:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-bad-start/44091/24 "2010-12-21T18:41:26Z")

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> [@thebigQ](#):
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> Kairn, I would not go far as to use the term “lasting impression” more like a preconceived impression of you. They lady would tend to take those perceptions and see them whether or not they are there, especially if they have not met you before or hardly know you. I believe you can change a persons perception of you after a while and I also believe pheromones work best on strangers or people you hardly know and take a while to affect those we know.

That makes more sense now… I would have thought so… it’s just that what you’re saying here is somewhat contradictory to KingKhan’s unfortunate experience, where familiarity of people who knew him well was overridden by the mones. I’m not taking anything in absolute terms here - I guess they affect different people to different degrees. I admit that their effects appear to be more real to me than I had heard or read about so far (people had been claiming that [human pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) were a myth)…

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**Author:** ![kairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4da419/32.png) [@kairn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kairn)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 6:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-bad-start/44091/25 "2010-12-21T18:45:20Z")

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> [@KingKhan](#):
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> .so it’s also about nationalities. Different races percieve the same pheromone signature in different ways.

I had thought so too, but half of me would disagree. I’d think human subspecies aren’t different enough to react to pheromones or hormones so differently. However, your experience might just be evidence to prove otherwise. I’m Indian myself, and I’m very keen to see how they work on me (and on people of different ethnicities…)

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**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2010, 7:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-bad-start/44091/26 "2010-12-25T19:57:52Z")

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> [@Digital\_B](#):
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> I’d imagine poorly, but the only asian chick I’ve hooked up with was on a none heavy night. Alcohol was involved in large quantities though.

Tried some on my friend the other night… No girls “ran away,” although I saw how a few were avoiding him 🙂

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**Author:** ![psylocybin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee7513/32.png) [@psylocybin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/psylocybin)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2010, 5:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-bad-start/44091/27 "2010-12-26T05:55:32Z")

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pussy’s^^^

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