# IJ Party Mix **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 6, 2010, 4:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-party-mix/42375 "2010-10-06T04:57:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Digital\_B](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/digital_b/32/1716_2.png) [@Digital\_B](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Digital_B)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 4:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-party-mix/42375/1 "2010-10-06T04:57:01Z")
I’ve been experimenting with many different mixes for party scenes. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) has been the base of these mixes. Last 2 parties .5 Tuth was introduced and I had my first hook up while on mones. Anyway, I want to include the IJ I have for the fun of experiments and a different vibe than usual. Only issue is I’m still a little unsure of None doses, and overdose is a heavy concern. Arsenal: Ammo, IJ, IH, IShine, TUTH all togo. Read my last few journal entries if you’d like to know what my Sweet spots and ratios have been. Questions: Would mixing Ammo with IJ be too much none or would buffering with IShine and IH help prevent this? Being 19/20 would I be best avoiding IJ? Should I stick with my last mix, and replace the .5 TUTH with .5 IJ, or would this not be enough IJ for the signal I want? Last MIX .5xTUTH to side neck 1xAmmo to chest 1xAmmo to Front neck 1xShine to chest 2xShine to wrists 1xHonesty to back neck 2xHonesty to wrists ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 5:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-party-mix/42375/2 "2010-10-06T05:06:03Z")
I wouldn’t recommend using two different -none products together, but if it worked, than congrats! It is a big risk, especially at your age. I would recommend giving this a shot: 1x IJ 3x Shine Seriously, thats probably all you need.Sometimes we use too much and it just doesn’t actually add anything to the mix and its a waste, be careful of that. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 5:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-party-mix/42375/3 "2010-10-06T05:32:58Z")
Ooo, I personally have many little IJ based combos that I love. A good one I enjoyed was MX304 with IJ, MX303 with IJ, IJ with Spaceland, P102, P103, IH, and with [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/), and many more. ---
**Author:** ![Digital\_B](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/digital_b/32/1716_2.png) [@Digital\_B](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Digital_B)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 5:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-party-mix/42375/4 "2010-10-06T05:41:00Z")
From what I see IJ seems to be mostly None with a few female molecules thrown in, and less if any steering molecules than tuth. Ammo of course is a buffered none blend with mones to give off a balance of sexy, respect and a tad alpha male. I fail to see where adding to none products is a problem, unless your ratio/sweet spot is off or you simply OD. Of course I could be wrong in every sense of the word, but that’s not the purpose of this thread. I’m here to get advice on getting the best ONS type mix from IJ. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 5:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-party-mix/42375/5 "2010-10-06T05:43:12Z")
> [@Digital\_B](#): > > From what I see IJ seems to be mostly None with a few female molecules thrown in, and less if any steering molecules than tuth. Ammo of course is a buffered none blend with mones to give off a balance of sexy, respect and a tad alpha male. > > I fail to see where adding to none products is a problem, unless your ratio/sweet spot is off or you simply OD. > > Of course I could be wrong in every sense of the word, but that’s not the purpose of this thread. I’m here to get advice on getting the best ONS type mix from IJ. No, IJ is just now -none with one or two steering molecules none of them which are copulin related let alone “female” related molecules I’m guessing. ---
**Author:** ![Digital\_B](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/digital_b/32/1716_2.png) [@Digital\_B](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Digital_B)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 5:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-party-mix/42375/6 "2010-10-06T05:57:43Z")
I understand that’s there’s no cops in IJ. That’s something that was killed long ago in too many threads. However I have read that the few extra molecules in IJ are other female related molecules. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 7:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-party-mix/42375/7 "2010-10-06T07:45:27Z")
> [@Digital\_B](#): > > I understand that’s there’s no cops in IJ. That’s something that was killed long ago in too many threads. However I have read that the few extra molecules in IJ are other female related molecules. Not sure about that, only hint I ever got was Jasmin saying that it has a molecule to make it more (the jerk effect) “loud.” So who knows, I wish I had that to quote but it’ll be a bitch to find. ---
**Author:** ![Digital\_B](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/digital_b/32/1716_2.png) [@Digital\_B](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Digital_B)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 8:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-party-mix/42375/8 "2010-10-06T08:10:31Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Nope they dont sell copulins here. There are other female molecules they could have used in IJ though. There is more to it then just anone. > > Tisha > [@No Copulins in Androtic Products?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-copulins-in-androtic-products/40864): > > I ask because today I went to see the girlfriend. I was wearing IS, IO, mx301, and IJ. The IJ intensified her arousal similar to TUTH. Well afterwards we went to a restaurant. She then said that my cologne smelled like her vagina. So I said, well we had sex and I did oral on you, can you smell it? She kept saying that was no way it was it. She was for sure it was the “cologne” I was wearing. I had her smell my mx301 and IJ, and she said the IJ kinda smelled like it, but she said it smells like i… I see it’s only speculation now. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 1:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-party-mix/42375/9 "2010-10-06T13:25:22Z")
I don’t know what’s in IJ, but it doesn’t behave the way you would think it would with so much -none. It’s more like aggressive sex in a bottle. IJ seems to make women aggressive too. I get more DIHL’s and serious flirting from IJ then anything else. I don’t wear it often. ---
**Author:** ![Digital\_B](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/digital_b/32/1716_2.png) [@Digital\_B](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Digital_B)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 1:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-party-mix/42375/10 "2010-10-06T13:43:03Z")
The argument of what’s in it, has it’s place but truely I don’t feel comfortable going into a test site without a plan. I want to know what mixes I can and cant do. ---
**Author:** ![empath](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/empath/32/2351_2.png) [@empath](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/empath)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 1:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-party-mix/42375/11 "2010-10-06T13:46:21Z")
> [@Digital\_B](#): > > The argument of what’s in it, has it’s place but truely I don’t feel comfortable going into a test site without a plan. I want to know what mixes I can and cant do. that’s what testing is for! honestly it’s different for everyone so you’ll have to test things out either way. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Digital\_B](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/digital_b/32/1716_2.png) [@Digital\_B](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Digital_B)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 3:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-party-mix/42375/12 "2010-10-06T15:19:06Z")
Yes, but educated opinions from other users can help me gage what I set up for my experiment. Does anyone believe that using IJ and Ammo together is a bad idea, acceptable, not a problem if buffered? I’d like opinions and guidelines to IJ before I pick my doses and get into the testing field. ---
**Author:** ![empath](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/empath/32/2351_2.png) [@empath](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/empath)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 3:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-party-mix/42375/13 "2010-10-06T15:20:52Z")
> [@Digital\_B](#): > > Yes, but educated opinions from other users can help me gage what I set up for my experiment. Does anyone believe that using IJ and Ammo together is a bad idea, acceptable, not a problem if buffered? I’d like opinions and guidelines to IJ before I pick my doses and get into the testing field. best way to know for future use is to OD and know what it’s like so that you can know later what’s going on if that’s happening… this seems like it may easily OD on none. I would use just ij with no ammo for now. ---
**Author:** ![Digital\_B](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/digital_b/32/1716_2.png) [@Digital\_B](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Digital_B)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 3:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-party-mix/42375/14 "2010-10-06T15:36:45Z")
Yeah, I’ve had one OD so far, but it may have been more my congruency with what I used. I usually will use 3xAmmo so I’m thinking 1xIJ to chest dab behind ears and along jaw line. 1xIS to Chest 2xIh to wrists 1xIH to Back Neck Im going to go back and research other users(around my age) dosages. ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 3:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-party-mix/42375/15 "2010-10-06T15:43:23Z")
> [@Digital\_B](#): > > Yes, but educated opinions from other users can help me gage what I set up for my experiment. Does anyone believe that using IJ and Ammo together is a bad idea, acceptable, not a problem if buffered? I’d like opinions and guidelines to IJ before I pick my doses and get into the testing field. I think the real question here in terms of what your looking for is are you using IJ daily and if you are at what quantity? Ammo can be used with IJ. I’ve tried that a few times but it doesn’t really mesh as a signature for me. IJ really to me anyway is more about self effects. The quantity of none you wear IMO is never an issue unless you experience build up which is a case by case basis and doesnt necessarily happen within the same wave length for every user. The amount of none you wear is more about how its accented and steered which is what makes it more or less wearable. I’ve worn TUTH in the daytime in casual settings and I can’t say its the worst thing although from certain observations from people in general I can say it doesnt fit the bill and there are times when I make girls uncomfortable and some outright aggressive undertones from guys If I decide to wear IJ or A314 or any high none content product at a higher dosage that usual I always carry a to go of IS and WAGG and that settles things right then and there if I’m too overbearing or ghosting or the none is negatively effecting me. The only thing with none is the higher you go with it the less the actual benefit of wearing it is. When it comes to IJ and IG specifically they are the Instant line products composed primarily of one component (rone or none) at about 12.5 mcgs a spray with 2.5 worth of other molecule('s). Before I get countered on the subject theres a old post by Mharris on the premise of the Instant line although I think he was mainly referring to IG/IJ/IFM One spray of IJ is fine although I’ll go out on a loop and say that 2 sprays of IJ is my sweetspot and didn’t really like going further with 3-4 sprays. I like it to appear more outspoken and when I want to be more upfront/blunt with my views/opinions. In a respect IJ is probably the most potent of the instant line never really having an expansive range of sprays considering the other instants you can use anyway from 1-8 sprays to good effect depending on your body chemistry and your age. ---
**Author:** ![Digital\_B](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/digital_b/32/1716_2.png) [@Digital\_B](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Digital_B)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 3:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-party-mix/42375/16 "2010-10-06T15:58:32Z")
IJ wouldn’t be an every day for me. It’s not compatible to my every day vibe. However, on weekend at parties I tend to give off a more asshole alpha male vibe, and IJ would play up nicely. SO maybe 2 sprays might not hurt. Hmmm… BTW I’m out for ONS and hook ups, so being congruent with my weekday vibe isn’t a problem. Most of the women wont know me and vice versa. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 7:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-party-mix/42375/17 "2010-10-08T07:03:03Z")
Plain and simple, no need to be afraid because Alphanol, Betanol, and TAA ARE your friends. IJ can be tamed upon first signs of OD with a hefty but still rounded off nicely dose of (for example my favorite) Spaceland which is heavy in Alphanol. A tip is to carry a togo of a social like IO for example just in case you need a friendly boost. ---
**Author:** ![Digital\_B](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/digital_b/32/1716_2.png) [@Digital\_B](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Digital_B)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 2:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-party-mix/42375/18 "2010-10-09T14:37:42Z")
Report is in boys. So far IJ FTW. ---
**Author:** ![PheroJack](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherojack/32/527_2.png) [@PheroJack](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroJack)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 4:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-party-mix/42375/19 "2010-10-09T16:08:18Z")
> [@](#): > > Questions: Would mixing Ammo with IJ be too much none or would buffering with Instant Shine and IH help prevent this? Being 19/20 would I be best avoiding IJ ? Should I stick with my last mix, and replace the .5 TUTH with .5 IJ , or would this not be enough IJ for the signal I want? I use IJ, and I’m really getting addicted to it 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 3:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-party-mix/42375/20 "2010-10-11T03:08:57Z")
> [@Digital\_B](#): > > Report is in boys. So far IJ FTW. Awesome, you’ll learn to master it with a nice ratio of nols as you grow to know what your exact sweet spot is. Have fun! [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-party-mix/42375.md?page=2)