# IJ = zilch **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 10, 2009, 11:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-zilch/33971 "2009-11-10T11:03:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![KingKhan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kingkhan/32/1073_2.png) [@KingKhan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KingKhan)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 11:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-zilch/33971/1 "2009-11-10T11:03:48Z")
Hi, Opened a brand new bottle of IJ 2 days ago. Have been using the recommended starting dose of 1 spray to the chest for 2 days now. 1st day to office. Not a soul notices me. I mean nobody looked at me nor treated me like a jerk. 2nd day I wore it evening. Was in close proximity in a closed box (elevator) to a couple of people I know. Again not a glance came my way. Everyone was quite normal in the way they treated me / talked to me. What am I doing wrong here. Dosage? Where I spray? Wrong time? OR maybe HIGH EXPECTATIONS? All I was looking for was **some** kind of reaction.😠 ---
**Author:** ![overlord](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/overlord/32/2387_2.png) [@overlord](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/overlord)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 11:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-zilch/33971/2 "2009-11-10T11:49:14Z")
Try in your neck, it’s more exposed so diffusion will go better. You’ll notice self effects better too 😉 ---
**Author:** ![tangent](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tangent/32/5178_2.png) [@tangent](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tangent)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 12:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-zilch/33971/3 "2009-11-10T12:02:36Z")
I’d suggest playing about with it. Try changing the application point as Overlord suggests and play with the dosage. If one spray doesn’t seem to do it for you then try two and keep going til you find the sweet spot. Personally the reason I like IJ is the self effects. It gives me a definition and a presence that I can feel in myself, makes me more confident and less likely to care what people think. ---
**Author:** ![TroubleSome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/91b2a8/32.png) [@TroubleSome](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TroubleSome)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 12:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-zilch/33971/4 "2009-11-10T12:06:38Z")
IJ in an office environment? Never tried IJ before although i’d like to, but from what i’ve read and researched, IJ is better used in uninhibited environments such as pubs, clubs, parties etc… You might be getting reactions at the office but people might be too polite, restrained and self-aware to act upon it (either positively or negatively) ---
**Author:** ![Des\_1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/des_1/32/695_2.png) [@Des\_1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Des_1)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 2:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-zilch/33971/5 "2010-03-18T02:30:41Z")
you should try being more congruent with it?.. dont kick a puppy or knock someones food tray over, but try bustin some people balls ya know, be a funny jerk =D ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 4:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-zilch/33971/6 "2010-03-18T16:36:50Z")
Sometimes an overbearing presence produces “no reactions” when in actuality the reaction is people are avoiding you. It’s called “ghosting”. Give it a search and see what comes up. They may not outlandishly walk away from you, but less interaction is usually what you get. ---
**Author:** ![Reclipse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reclipse/32/773_2.png) [@Reclipse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Reclipse)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 6:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-zilch/33971/7 "2010-03-18T18:07:03Z")
> [@scotties123](#): > > Sometimes an overbearing presence produces “no reactions” when in actuality the reaction is people are avoiding you. It’s called “ghosting”. Give it a search and see what comes up. They may not outlandishly walk away from you, but less interaction is usually what you get. Ding ding ding! Also, how old are you and what’s your normal physical activity like? You may produce high levels of -none already and using something like IJ can really put you way over the top and cause major ghosting, which most perceive to be just a lack of hits. Normally -none is considered as a highly sexual attractant. This can cause some major issues with females as they get overloaded and don’t know how to react. Also, lots of females have high sensitivities to -none, and this can cause irritability in some, especially when menstruating. The BEST time to wear something like this is when girls are ovulating, as they respond well to high -none signatures (internally programming makes them wanna procreate). ---
**Author:** ![bedojo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bedojo/32/1027_2.png) [@bedojo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bedojo)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 7:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-zilch/33971/8 "2010-03-19T07:18:41Z")
play with it a bit, i jerked it up with 3 sprays (togo sized) the otherday, felt like a BAMF, and totally got the result of being a “jerk” which can be good or bad result, its how u interact with it that is key. i mean really u could pour the whole bottle on u and if u do a normal everday go to work \> do work \> go home not much anyone going do anything now say u go somewhere else, i went to get food from my school, i walked like i owned the place, looked the college girl in the eyes like i would do dirty things to u, and flirterd with her a tad and she was totally blushing up and stumbleing her words, it was cute 😛 but keep at it 😉 ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 6:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-zilch/33971/9 "2010-03-19T18:47:45Z")
> [@TroubleSome](#): > > IJ in an office environment? > Never tried IJ before although i’d like to, but from what i’ve read and researched, IJ is better used in uninhibited environments such as pubs, clubs, parties etc… > You might be getting reactions at the office but people might be too polite, restrained and self-aware to act upon it (either positively or negatively) Yeah, that struck me as odd too. It just doesn’t make sense to wear [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) in an office. Maybe everyone was ignoring KingKhan because his pheromone signature in the office annoyed everyone. ---
**Author:** ![ZombielandMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c89c15/32.png) [@ZombielandMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ZombielandMan)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 11:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ij-zilch/33971/10 "2010-03-19T23:28:00Z")
> [@scotties123](#): > > Sometimes an overbearing presence produces “no reactions” when in actuality the reaction is people are avoiding you. It’s called “ghosting”. BINGO! Yep. If you think about it, when you see someone acting like a jerk, it’s normal to avoid them. What I notice when using IJ is gaze aversion, where people refuse to meet your eye.