# Im 14 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 7, 2007, 11:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-14/1461 "2007-01-07T23:29:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![24isnotM24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/c57346/32.png) [@24isnotM24](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/24isnotM24)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2007, 11:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-14/1461/1 "2007-01-07T23:29:01Z")
Hey i just started reading up on [pheromones](https://a314.com/). And I was wondering if the phereomone Chikara is suitable for this age ? are there any bad effects that will affect those around me? I would love the attention 😉🙂 ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2007, 11:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-14/1461/2 "2007-01-07T23:32:54Z")
wrong forum 🙂. Chikara isn’t offered through this store. I must say though, that Chikara is one of the less effective products out there. The only real results I saw from it was increased aggitation ---
**Author:** ![24isnotM24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/c57346/32.png) [@24isnotM24](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/24isnotM24)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2007, 11:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-14/1461/3 "2007-01-07T23:33:34Z")
which forum should i ask this in ---
**Author:** ![24isnotM24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/c57346/32.png) [@24isnotM24](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/24isnotM24)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2007, 11:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-14/1461/4 "2007-01-07T23:34:11Z")
whats one that u would recomend just for a little respect and smiles i heard v-5 pherone is pretty good ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2007, 11:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-14/1461/5 "2007-01-07T23:56:08Z")
hey there! the products you mention and are looking into are a little undeveloped for someone who is not used wearing them already. there are some great products here, but for your requirements I think this is something jasmin should comment on. Im thinking CTTM or IO, but I am as interested as you to see what the reply will be! [http://www.smilieshq.com/smilies/confused0013.gif](http://www.smilieshq.com/smilies/confused0013.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2007, 1:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-14/1461/6 "2007-01-08T01:51:20Z")
At 14 I don’t think you are really ready for androstenone products (either are your age peer group). Ammunition is similar to Chikara. I agree with lor that [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) or Come Talk To Me 2 would be better choices to start with, but I’m still not sure if you or your age group are ready for them. Depends on individuals, but you may need to wait a couple of years (age 16 or so). Of course it wouldn’t hurt to read up on them now and be ready to add them to your collection. You’ll be far ahead of most anyone else your age. Again Jasmin or MHarris may be the best resource as they would _know._ I’m just speculating. ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2007, 2:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-14/1461/7 "2007-01-08T02:53:00Z")
Well, I guess you might be the youngest forum member here! It doesn’t matter if you ‘knock on the wrong door’. Think of this forum as an “information highway”. There’re plenty of stuffs you can learn here. Since some of our respectable members have advised you on the products sold here, I just take this opportunity to welcome you aboard.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![24isnotM24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/c57346/32.png) [@24isnotM24](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/24isnotM24)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2007, 3:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-14/1461/8 "2007-01-08T03:12:57Z")
might sound like a dumb question but whats the diference between instant openess and come talk 2 me mix 2 ---
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2007, 9:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-14/1461/9 "2007-01-08T09:40:20Z")
The formulae are proprietary, so I can’t make a definitive statement, but, to the best of my knowledge: - CTTM2 is half alpha, half beta androstenol - [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) is 70% alpha, 30% beta (others say 90% alpha, 10% beta) ---
**Author:** ![thenoser](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thenoser/32/2199_2.png) [@thenoser](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thenoser)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2007, 6:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-14/1461/10 "2007-01-08T18:16:37Z")
> [@Rbt](#): > > At 14 I don’t think you are really ready for androstenone products (either are your age peer group). lol. can you blame him? if i had known about the stuff at his age, i would have mowed everyone’s lawns in the neighborhood to get money so that i could experiment. ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2007, 6:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-14/1461/11 "2007-01-08T18:54:07Z")
> [@thenoser](#): > > lol. can you blame him? if i had known about the stuff at his age, i would have mowed everyone’s lawns in the neighborhood to get money so that i could experiment. I’d be right there with him with that lawnmower. Wish this stuff was available way back then in the dark ages… But I still kinda think 14 is a little too young, as I’m not sure the “experence” is there in his peer group to get really positive results. Maybe it’s worth playing with to see what happens, but the results may be far different from what one desires. You could give something like [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) or Spaceland (or the like) a test, but I suspect stuff like a314 and even Androstenone products would be a waste. There are some things in life you don’t appreciate until your body and mind are ready for them. Grant me patience, but hurry up! ---
**Author:** ![Dragonslayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/82dd89/32.png) [@Dragonslayer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dragonslayer)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2007, 7:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-14/1461/12 "2007-01-08T19:08:27Z")
even though he is 14, he can experiment, but not with anything like ammo or Turn up the Heat, Try things like Instant Shine, Instant Openness, or even [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/). Also, i was wondering, is Ammo the best one for me due to i am 19 or do i have to do the combo mixes, like Instant Female Magic, A314, Instant Openness. ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2007, 7:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-14/1461/13 "2007-01-08T19:16:15Z")
> [@Dragonslayer](#): > > even though he is 14, he can experiment, but not with anything like ammo or Turn up the Heat, Try things like Instant Shine, Instant Openness, or even Instant Female Magic. Also, i was wondering, is Ammo the best one for me due to i am 19 or do i have to do the combo mixes, like Instant Female Magic, A314, Instant Openness. I’m part of the school that thinks androstenone is overrated for most everybody. I think “socialization work” is more important. After you get the socialization down and are comfortable “mingling” and have some specific goals or targets in mind, then I might suggest more -none products. My opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Dragonslayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/82dd89/32.png) [@Dragonslayer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dragonslayer)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2007, 7:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-14/1461/14 "2007-01-08T19:27:15Z")
would ammo serve that purpose or is it better with like A314, Instant Openness and [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) because for social i would go with that. ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2007, 8:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-14/1461/15 "2007-01-08T20:48:22Z")
[Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is a good “combo” mix if you want to get some androstenone in there. But you might be better served by getting mostly the IOpennes, IFM, and a bit of TUTH for your -none component. Add it in a bit at a time. Ammo may work out fine for you. Multiple products let you experiment a bit more though and vary applications for specific situations. ---
**Author:** ![XDragonX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/6f9a4e/32.png) [@XDragonX](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XDragonX)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2007, 9:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-14/1461/16 "2007-01-08T21:15:05Z")
i know what alpha is but what’s beta androstenol and what does it do? ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2007, 10:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-14/1461/17 "2007-01-08T22:58:02Z")
> [@](#): > > i know what alpha is but what’s beta androstenol and what does it do? I do believe that Beta -nol give a deeper more revealing communication affect. I’m pretty sure it’s the base of instant honesty. I would promote people to trust you and tell you things. ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2007, 1:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-14/1461/18 "2007-01-09T01:50:49Z")
> [@XDragonX](#): > > i know what alpha is but what’s beta androstenol and what does it do? From what I know, it is added in some products as one of the undisclosed “secret ingredients”. Not much is known about this [pheromone](https://a314.com/) bcoz of it’s limited availability, according to an article. Some say that it is ‘less playful’ than the alpha isomer, but that it is good for inducing conversations on a larger scale. It seems as though it’s primary use is to enhance alpha-androstenol, adding extra amounts of friendliness and comfort. On the OD issue, it is not yet known what beta-androstenol causes. ---
**Author:** ![RaiderMagic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@RaiderMagic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RaiderMagic)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2007, 7:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-14/1461/19 "2007-10-08T19:01:58Z")
If the 14 yr age group is not ready for these products. What about the 17-18 age group/ ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2007, 7:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-14/1461/20 "2007-10-08T19:07:01Z")
Yes you are well past puberty so your fine but your making alot of NONE on your own so you need less product. This is good unless your a rich 17 year old. 😉 Snook has a great sticky which tells you what to get for high school men. Its at the top of the mens forum. Tisha [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-14/1461.md?page=2)