# I'm 17 and Instant Shine is the only thing thats worked for me... **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 9, 2009, 7:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-17-and-instant-shine-is-the-only-thing-thats-worked-for-me/31440 "2009-08-09T19:45:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![polo09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8e8cbc/32.png) [@polo09](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/polo09)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 7:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-17-and-instant-shine-is-the-only-thing-thats-worked-for-me/31440/1 "2009-08-09T19:45:25Z")
Instant shine, when i put it on…BAM instant smiles and all around good mood, i noticed i had alot more patience when with it on, and i actually got looks off it… Ammo, when i put it on…made me invisible, almost like people wanted to avoid eye contact with me…crazy stuff… MX301, when i put it on…the first night i got a few looks, but after that NOTHING, not a single look or anything…it kinda sucked…i figured it was because they couldn’t smell it but…i got close and nothing lol… Spaceland smells awful lol, plant-awful… And the chocolate you sent me was good… The applications for all?: Ammo (sprays to the neck): 1 re added 1 when i noticed i couldnt smell it after 2 hours… Instant shine (forearms and wrist): 1 to wrists (rubbed on other), individual sprays to forearms… Mx301 (neck): 1 re added 1 after an hour… This has been for 3 days total testing… [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) FTW. ---
**Author:** ![Baldman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/baldman/32/2015_2.png) [@Baldman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Baldman)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-17-and-instant-shine-is-the-only-thing-thats-worked-for-me/31440/2 "2009-08-09T20:37:03Z")
Being so young IS is the only one you can really expect to work. At that age girls don’t really know what to make of the messages they get from the pheros. You’re producing your own signature and, being so young it will be relatively strong. IMO the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) here are tailored more towards interactions you have as an adult. There have been alot of young lads trying them out in my time here and for the most part IS is always the biggest winner of the group with the most outwardly visible effects. I’d stick with that until you’re a little older. The others are probably getting results, just nothing that is outwardly visible due to the environments you’ll be using them in. At 17 its hard to maintain congruence with the messages the pheros are sending out and alot of the girls are probably just plain confused. ---
**Author:** ![polo09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8e8cbc/32.png) [@polo09](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/polo09)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 8:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-17-and-instant-shine-is-the-only-thing-thats-worked-for-me/31440/3 "2009-08-09T20:43:16Z")
> [@Baldman](#): > > Being so young IS is the only one you can really expect to work. > > At that age girls don’t really know what to make of the messages they get from the pheros. You’re producing your own signature and, being so young it will be relatively strong. > > IMO the pheromones here are tailored more towards interactions you have as an adult. There have been alot of young lads trying them out in my time here and for the most part IS is always the biggest winner of the group with the most outwardly visible effects. > > I’d stick with that until you’re a little older. The others are probably getting results, just nothing that is outwardly visible due to the environments you’ll be using them in. At 17 its hard to maintain congruence with the messages the pheros are sending out and alot of the girls are probably just plain confused. Ok, thank you. Just a quick question. My IS to-go ran out, do you think I should get 4x IS or 1x IS? Thanks for responding.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Baldman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/baldman/32/2015_2.png) [@Baldman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Baldman)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 8:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-17-and-instant-shine-is-the-only-thing-thats-worked-for-me/31440/4 "2009-08-09T20:46:10Z")
Its really up to you. If you have a job and don’t mind testing what works better for you then sure, go for the 4x and see if you get better results. If money is a bit hard to come by, as it is for most 17 year olds 🙂, then I’d be sticking with what you’ve seen and know works for you. ---
**Author:** ![polo09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8e8cbc/32.png) [@polo09](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/polo09)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 8:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-17-and-instant-shine-is-the-only-thing-thats-worked-for-me/31440/5 "2009-08-09T20:47:35Z")
> [@Baldman](#): > > Its really up to you. If you have a job and don’t mind testing what works better for you then sure, go for the 4x and see if you get better results. > > If money is a bit hard to come by, as it is for most 17 year olds 🙂, then I’d be sticking with what you’ve seen and know works for you. Do they make IS Oil? Its really hot down here in Florida and I need something that lasts long… Is it a Custom Order? ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 8:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-17-and-instant-shine-is-the-only-thing-thats-worked-for-me/31440/6 "2009-08-09T20:50:16Z")
> [@polo09](#): > > Do they make IS Oil? Its really hot down here in Florida and I need something that lasts long… > > Is it a Custom Order? They used to sell TAA (the secret ingredient of IShine) oil that was dosed at 20mcg/drop. Have you tried any of the -nol products? IO, IH, cttm2. If not, you might want to. ---
**Author:** ![polo09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8e8cbc/32.png) [@polo09](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/polo09)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 8:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-17-and-instant-shine-is-the-only-thing-thats-worked-for-me/31440/7 "2009-08-09T20:53:14Z")
> [@Eldros](#): > > They used to sell TAA (the secret ingredient of IShine) oil that was dosed at 20mcg/drop. Have you tried any of the -nol products? IO, IH, cttm2. If not, you might want to. What’s the difference between TAA and [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/)? ---
**Author:** ![Baldman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/baldman/32/2015_2.png) [@Baldman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Baldman)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 8:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-17-and-instant-shine-is-the-only-thing-thats-worked-for-me/31440/8 "2009-08-09T20:55:04Z")
Exactly, the socials are your friend at that age. There has been success from the younger fellas with those as well but they always rave about the effectiveness of IS. Give em’ a try, see what happens. 🙂. It all depends on the results you’re looking to gain and which product will give you the results that you can best work with. ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-17-and-instant-shine-is-the-only-thing-thats-worked-for-me/31440/9 "2009-08-09T20:56:16Z")
> [@polo09](#): > > What’s the difference between TAA and Instant Shine? TAA stands for ‘test molecule A’. So an experimone or the taa oil bottle would be just TAA. Ishine was Taa + taf and some other stuff. ---
**Author:** ![polo09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8e8cbc/32.png) [@polo09](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/polo09)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-17-and-instant-shine-is-the-only-thing-thats-worked-for-me/31440/10 "2009-08-09T20:56:21Z")
> [@Baldman](#): > > Exactly, the socials are your friend at that age. There has been success from the younger fellas with those as well but they always rave about the effectiveness of IS. > > Give em’ a try, see what happens. 🙂. It all depends on the results you’re looking to gain and which product will give you the results that you can best work with. I’ll settle with [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) 1x Normal 30ml bottle… ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 9:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-17-and-instant-shine-is-the-only-thing-thats-worked-for-me/31440/11 "2009-08-09T21:02:59Z")
Polo, being a beginner with pheros, and a young one at that, I would suggest you stick with the Instant line. MXs and “unusuals” like Spaceland are not really a good idea. Your best bet is going to be Instant Shine and either [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) or CTTM2… which, admittedly, is an “unusual”. But it’s a sort of half and half mix of alpha nol and beta nol. Also, don’t be so quick to jump to the conclusion that you’re ghosting. Three days isn’t even enough to finish testing ONE product at ONE specific dose. You can’t possibly see wht’s going on going that fast. Which brings me to… you’ll have to learn to pay ore attention and understand body language to really see all the effects. Read some of the stickies. SLOW DOWN!!! And educate yourself. And stay with IS and IO for the time being, too. They make a rockin’ combination for your age group anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 9:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-17-and-instant-shine-is-the-only-thing-thats-worked-for-me/31440/12 "2009-08-09T21:04:04Z")
> [@polo09](#): > > SO THEN…IS is the total package but i just neeed it to last longer… > > and as for CTTM or the other socials…I would try them if they sent it to me as an extra, but i can’t pay for them lol > > YO NECESITO IS OIL VERSION!!! :0 or else…it wont last 😛 Go greet people in the introductions thread or get a job 😛 ---
**Author:** ![reddog](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reddog/32/2091_2.png) [@reddog](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/reddog)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 11:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-17-and-instant-shine-is-the-only-thing-thats-worked-for-me/31440/13 "2009-08-09T23:38:58Z")
You might try 1/2 spray of Ammunition to the chest while wearing some of the socials. Socials: Instant Shine, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), Instant Honesty, or CTTM2. Follow Catlords advice; stick with socials and work on connecting with the girls and feeling comfortable about doing so. The rest will take care of it self. ---
**Author:** ![Baldman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/baldman/32/2015_2.png) [@Baldman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Baldman)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 11:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-17-and-instant-shine-is-the-only-thing-thats-worked-for-me/31440/14 "2009-08-09T23:44:58Z")
Bingo. Plus the experience you gain from that will give you a solid foundation for when you leave school and have to step it up a notch. ---
**Author:** ![polo09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8e8cbc/32.png) [@polo09](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/polo09)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2009, 1:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-17-and-instant-shine-is-the-only-thing-thats-worked-for-me/31440/15 "2009-08-10T01:48:34Z")
> [@Baldman](#): > > Bingo. Plus the experience you gain from that will give you a solid foundation for when you leave school and have to step it up a notch. I JUST scored with Shine with a HB!!! and I mean a 10!!! and I mean omfg i’d fuck her now… …I now have the girl on oovoo who can’t wait till we video chat, we’re meeting tomorrow again but for dinner… 🆒…I LOVE Shine…😃 ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2009, 3:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-17-and-instant-shine-is-the-only-thing-thats-worked-for-me/31440/16 "2009-08-10T03:34:57Z")
Well lots of things will “work” for you (meaning they’ll provide effects of one type or another; now when you like those particular effects, I don’t know)… On the other hand, [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), or anything heavy with the TAA molecule, like the old Liquid Sunshine series, is perfectly congruent for the young. It’s communicates a good, light, noncommittal, kind of fun. It’s very literally sort of “shiny”. A lot of things young people are naturally, only amplified. Sort of like a superyouth molecule in a sense, only that is has both the good elements and some of “the bad” of youth (like how it can make some people sort of aloof – which, while being part of being young, might not viewed as a positive element by everyone). When used at 17, it makes sense to others. That’s what “congruent” means, it’s a match. It’s “communicating” the right things (and that’s the main purpose of pheromones, to communicate). It’ll seem like you are almost a “super 17” year old when using it. A 17 year old times 10. (no, _not_ a 170 year old!) The bonus is that is also a direct effect molecule. Aside from it’s communication features, it’s been shown to gives most non-smokers around you kind of a buzz when they’re not exposed too often. If you expose them too much, though, they will habituate and they won’t feel it anymore. Sort of like caffeine. If you don’t drink anything with caffeine all that caffeine, the effects are powerful and obvious. If, on the other hand, you you drink caffeined beverages so often that people have considered tapping you like a maple tree, then you probably don’t “feel it” much anymore. Same thing with Instant Shine or anything heavily dependent upon TAA. Infrequent use makes people kind of buzzy and chipper around you, some will even feel utterly and completed _elated_. Expose them too often, through, and they won’t have the same degree of response. ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2009, 3:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-17-and-instant-shine-is-the-only-thing-thats-worked-for-me/31440/17 "2009-08-10T03:47:32Z")
> [@polo09](#): > > I JUST scored with Shine with a HB!!! and I mean a 10!!! and I mean omfg i’d fuck her now… > > …I now have the girl on oovoo who can’t wait till we video chat, we’re > meeting tomorrow again but for dinner… > > 🆒…I LOVE Shine…😃 Ah, so that’s what you mean by “work” for you. Yeah, after all this time, I sort of forget that’s why most people type the word “[pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/)” in. A lot of the people responding on this thread are right. Near your age range many of the “feel good” and social molecules will “work best” to help generate attraction in the sense you want it. When you hit 18 (I don’t want things like this going out to minors), you may also be able to get away with a very low dose version of MX292 or the newest Raw Power series. We don’t have a low dose version available, so we’d either have to make one for you, or you could presumably titrate it down yourself. I got very strong responses, though, using MX292 around younger women. At least in the city I tested it most in, which was Montreal. I wasn’t going after that demographic, but they responded nonetheless (you can’t really control who responds when you go out in public with these things). I remember a poor sales clerk from Lush, when I went to buy some shampoo (I didn’t like the free stuff in my hotel; good “brand” but I have fine hair, and it had bad ingredients)… Using 1 spray MX292, and 25mcg of P74. There were lots of “hits” on the tube/subway, and even in the street (French Canadians are _unusually_ pheromone responsive), but I got to the store maybe 1.5 to 2 hours after application… Young brunette, cute as a button, certainly college age… turned red, lots of ideomotor response (that is, started to shake a bit, even appeared to vibrate – you know how it is when someone is _obviously_ attracted to you). The other sales clerks ribbed her a bit, her response was so obvious they wondered if she was going to follow me home. If I was near her age, I would’ve died to spend some time with a nice young lady like this. She fit many of the outward characteristics I like. That’s why I remember this event so extremely. I like very healthy, very innocent people. People who have such good “energy”, they almost glow and radiate without any makeup whatsoever. She had those attributes, with a good amount of sexy _oomph_ thrown in. Very idealistic for someone like me, but bad timing. This might not be the best response for me at this time in my life, but I’m sure a strappin’ young lad like you (as long you’re a decent guy) could make good use of it. ---
**Author:** ![polo09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8e8cbc/32.png) [@polo09](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/polo09)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2009, 5:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-17-and-instant-shine-is-the-only-thing-thats-worked-for-me/31440/18 "2009-08-10T05:20:24Z")
> [@MHarris](#): > > Ah, so that’s what you mean by “work” for you. > > Yeah, after all this time, I sort of forget that’s why most people type the word “pheromone” in. > > A lot of the people responding on this thread are right. Near your age range many of the “feel good” and social molecules will “work best” to help generate attraction in the sense you want it. > > When you hit 18 (I don’t want things like this going out to minors), you may also be able to get away with a very low dose version of MX292 or the newest Raw Power series. We don’t have a low dose version available, so we’d either have to make one for you, or you could presumably titrate it down yourself. > > I got very strong responses, though, using MX292 around younger women. At least in the city I tested it most in, which was Montreal. I wasn’t going after that demographic, but they responded nonetheless (you can’t really control who responds when you go out in public with these things). > > I remember a poor sales clerk from Lush, when I went to buy some shampoo (I didn’t like the free stuff in my hotel; good “brand” but I have fine hair, and it had bad ingredients)… Using 1 spray MX292, and 25mcg of P74. > > There were lots of “hits” on the tube/subway, and even in the street (French Canadians are _unusually_ pheromone responsive), but I got to the store maybe 1.5 to 2 hours after application… Young brunette, cute as a button, certainly college age… turned red, lots of ideomotor response (that is, started to shake a bit, even appeared to vibrate – you know how it is when someone is _obviously_ attracted to you). The other sales clerks ribbed her a bit, her response was so obvious they wondered if she was going to follow me home. > > If I was near her age, I would’ve died to spend some time with a nice young lady like this. She fit many of the outward characteristics I like. That’s why I remember this event so extremely. I like very healthy, very innocent people. People who have such good “energy”, they almost glow and radiate without any makeup whatsoever. > > She had those attributes, with a good amount of sexy _oomph_ thrown in. Very idealistic for someone like me, but bad timing. > > This might not be the best response for me at this time in my life, but I’m sure a strappin’ young lad like you (as long you’re a decent guy) could make good use of it. I will, Thanks.🆒 ---
**Author:** ![joenaz11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/0ea827/32.png) [@joenaz11](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/joenaz11)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 10:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-17-and-instant-shine-is-the-only-thing-thats-worked-for-me/31440/19 "2009-08-27T22:59:29Z")
yeah..i also believe its the age..girls at the age of 17-19 sometimes they have no idea on how to react on strong phero..especially AMMO, try to wear it and test it around older women and you’ll see the effects of it…also for your age..maybe you can instant gentleman…TTHU is also good and buffer it up with IS and IG..its up to you on how to tinker all these products together..but overall you will get a great response..keyword tho..OLDER WOMAN..ahahah ---
**Author:** ![psylocybin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee7513/32.png) [@psylocybin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/psylocybin)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 6:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-17-and-instant-shine-is-the-only-thing-thats-worked-for-me/31440/20 "2009-08-28T06:47:55Z")
MAN im 16. Shine is amazing. The first time i used it Felt like running a marathon cause I was so happy lol. What you need to do though is buy some ammo. If you thought you were ghosting, then Don’t use as much. If you don’t think it’ll help you then fine.. just wanna let you know. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) gets amazing hits and so does tuth. ( not that you should buy tuth) Tuth got me laid with less than 15 min of xposure..