# I'm a newbie. Just joined!Some questions. Any answers from experienced users please?

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**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [June 11, 2008, 8:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-a-newbie-just-joined-some-questions-any-answers-from-experienced-users-please/13804 "2008-06-11T20:39:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gideon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Gideon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gideon)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 8:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-a-newbie-just-joined-some-questions-any-answers-from-experienced-users-please/13804/1 "2008-06-11T20:39:59Z")

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Hi all!  
Gideon from London here.

I’ve never used or bought [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) before..except once..a ‘pseudo-product’ called molecule 01 (escentric molecules).

Anyway..having recently been on-line, I’m confused by the array of products out there. Is Pherlure any good?..How about 'Icebreaker?..Or Pheremone99?..Or Alpha A314?..Or primal instinct?

I’m a 42 year old guy. I look much younger (most say about 10 years younger)..and I’m still in reasonable shape, etc. However, I’m quite frustrated. I’ve studied Mystery method, Juggler method, day game methods to pick up women…but, alas, I’m still single. I get a lot of flakes. I want a hot, interesting woman in my life..so, as a last resort, I’m turning to pheromones.

Which products out there have the best results?..Which have been genuinely tested (university-tested?) and which are just marketing hype?..I have limited money to spend and don’t wish to wate a whole lot on experimenting with dozens of different products. I need a pheromone ‘edge’ to my sarging! Please advise!!

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**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 8:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-a-newbie-just-joined-some-questions-any-answers-from-experienced-users-please/13804/2 "2008-06-11T20:50:30Z")

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Hey gideon and welcome!

Off the products you mentioned, only a314 is from here. And I only tried a314 which is very good in getting respect 🙂

Try ammo, since it will be very good combined with mystery method as many members tried and like it 🙂 you will get plenty of attention from the ladies 🙂

As you probably will see soon when you read more posts here, one of my favorite products is io. This one is definitly great for everywhere and anywhere. It works well for most people and especially for me. It makes conversations with people that you dont really know very easy, and they just want to talk to you 😉  
Io is very easy to see some good results!

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**Author:** ![Edx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/4da419/32.png) [@Edx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Edx)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 8:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-a-newbie-just-joined-some-questions-any-answers-from-experienced-users-please/13804/3 "2008-06-11T20:51:37Z")

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Hey! Im pretty new as well. Im still testing the various products Ive bought but so far so good. Will have to wait and see, though Im already considering ordering more.

You’ll get lots of advise and support here. Tishas great, I dont know how she finds the time 🙂

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**Author:** ![Jasx69](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasx69/32/2413_2.png) [@Jasx69](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasx69)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 8:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-a-newbie-just-joined-some-questions-any-answers-from-experienced-users-please/13804/4 "2008-06-11T20:53:26Z")

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Hello GIDEON

Welcome to PheroTalk 🙂

Do not go near Pherlure. it has a really nice scent and it’s very mild in it’s effects if there are any but me likes the smell 🙂

Instead of the choices you had in mind you should read up on what androtics has to offer they have plenty of itmes here that work just as well or better then the other stuff you mention.

The products that achieve best results woould be A314 for work and respect and trust with your fellow peers and AMMo and Instant shine the feel good sexy atrractive mix, [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is ienticle to a comercial cologne and quite nice smelling too.

Welcome on board Buddy

Ciao “J” 😛

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**Author:** ![bond007](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bond007/32/1076_2.png) [@bond007](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bond007)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 9:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-a-newbie-just-joined-some-questions-any-answers-from-experienced-users-please/13804/5 "2008-06-11T21:07:55Z")

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hi gideon, welcome to the forum 🙂

Pherlure works moderately, not well… as j said though… nice smell…

I have never heard of mone 99… A314 works the best out of all of the above, a respect grabbing… good effects, as well as self effects

i also have not heard of “Icebreaker”… but from the name i suggest that you IO… I’m guessing its the most similar.

see ya around

bond

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 10:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-a-newbie-just-joined-some-questions-any-answers-from-experienced-users-please/13804/6 "2008-06-11T22:21:49Z")

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Hello

Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂

First off just so you are aware of it, You are in the smartmone forum so we mostly talk about their products. We do however talk about others as well so feel free to do so as long as you don’t provide a link.

Most of us hang here because its a great forum and Androtics products rock.

A314 is from Androtics and its great. It ups you status and brings trust and respect. Not big on attraction though but once you learn to use it you can use it for that.

Pherlure sucks LOL

Icebreaker is not a great choice at this time since the government is shutting them down due to shady practices ( long story best for another time)

Pheromone 99 Never heard of it

Primal instinct is good but our Raw power is better. Just check it out in the store and it will explain why its better.

A lot of PUA guys hang here so you can get some tips on that as well as get the ladies perspective on attraction. Its a great community to be a part of.

I suggest you start with Double AMMO which is a great all round product.

Also check out Instant Shine which is a youthful charismatic mix

[Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) is a chatty friendly break the ice mix.

Keep in mind they have to-go size bottle here at a low cost so you can check them out and find your favorites before investing on a big bottle. Oil based are the only ones that don’t come in to go size.

If you have questions or need help we are here for you.

😃 **Your GC will be in your email box shortly** 😃

Have fun

Tisha

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> Tishas great, I dont know how she finds the time

Thank you Ed, 😉 I dont sleep much LOL

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**Author:** ![Gideon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Gideon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gideon)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 10:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-a-newbie-just-joined-some-questions-any-answers-from-experienced-users-please/13804/7 "2008-06-12T22:30:40Z")

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Thanks to all of you for your informative suggestions!..I’m going to ditch the idea of Pherlure and go for Ammo, A314 and/or Turn up the heat/one of the other forementioned products and see how it goes!

So, what IS the ‘icebreaker’ story?..Is it a scam product?

Are some of the other companies that feature playboy models intoducing products to be trusted?..What about university-tested findings with regard to Smartmone products and/or other companys’ products?..Is there any solid proof that wearing pheromones in general really works?..As you know, I’m new to this. I’m a guy who’s 42 but looks ten years younger. I’m looking to attract women in their twenties…in a variety of settings.

Thanks again to you all!

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 11:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-a-newbie-just-joined-some-questions-any-answers-from-experienced-users-please/13804/8 "2008-06-12T23:21:03Z")

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The Ice breaker story is here.

> **[PheromoneTalk](https://pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/ice-breakers-pheromone-cologne-13544.html)**
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> Everything about using pheromones to enhance your social life

Hmm Playboy models LOL You can name the product and we will give you a opinion on it. I dont pay much attention to the hype they put on there sites but I have tried out tons of mones from all over for comparison purposes.

If you go on down to the studies and abstract section of the forum there are tons of studies down there from all over.

Androtics Direct is not just a store, They are the leader in [Pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) research and developement. This forum is part of the research . That why you see alot of products with MX### and P## in front of them.

Younger girls dont go for the heavy anone products. They react well to the social mones and products that are well rounded like AMMO

Since your over 40 I suggest you get Double AMMO and Ishine. Keep in mind mones enhance who you already are. If a Girl is not interested in a older guy she may become aroused but not follow though on that arousal.

I suggest you read the post

What mones can do and what they cant do. Link is in my signature.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![Gideon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Gideon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gideon)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 11:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-a-newbie-just-joined-some-questions-any-answers-from-experienced-users-please/13804/9 "2008-06-12T23:37:36Z")

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Thanks Tisha for your valuable advice and the link to the icebreaker story. You’ve saved me from wasting my money on bogus products. I plan to try the products you recommended.  
Thanks again!
