# I'm a pheromone newbie

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-a-pheromone-newbie/696>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [September 24, 2006, 9:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-a-pheromone-newbie/696 "2006-09-24T21:34:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![David](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@David](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/David)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2006, 9:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-a-pheromone-newbie/696/1 "2006-09-24T21:34:38Z")

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Hi.

I’m fairly new at pheromone use. I’m married, the kids are grown and gone, I’m a health care professional, and a business owner. I’m looking for some guidance using these products. My goal, at this point, is to influence the people I deal with to enjoy the relationship more. Also, I wouldn’t mind, at times, to influence my lovely wife. I’ve fooled around with Female Magic, [Turn Up the Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/), Ammunition for Men, and A314. I recently bought estratetraenol. I think that might have been a mistake for me, but not sure of it’s application

Any advice is appreciated.

Thanks

David

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2006, 10:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-a-pheromone-newbie/696/2 "2006-09-24T22:04:57Z")

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> [@David](#):
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> Hi.
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> I’m fairly new at pheromone use. I’m married, the kids are grown and gone, I’m a health care professional, and a business owner. I’m looking for some guidance using these products. My goal, at this point, is to influence the people I deal with to enjoy the relationship more. Also, I wouldn’t mind, at times, to influence my lovely wife. I’ve fooled around with Female Magic, Turn Up the Heat, Ammunition for Men, and A314. I recently bought estratetraenol. I think that might have been a mistake for me, but not sure of it’s application
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> Any advice is appreciated.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> David

Looks like most of the products you’ve picked up are of a more sexual nature, and doesn’t quite align with your said goals. You should see some interesting results around the wife though. 😉

Influence people in what manner?

If I’m reading you correctly, it sounds like you’re looking for more of a boost socially than sexually..

For your purposes, I would have recommended CTTM2, IS, and A314…or perhaps, IO, IH, IS, and A314. These products are more socially oriented and are more suited to your goals. As far as enjoying existing relationships go, the androstenol family really does the trick.

Estratetraenol is a great [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) as well. It creates a sort of social magnetism, as well as creating an uplifted vibe. Some report that its effects are more biased towards men. I’ve noticed this to some degree, but it worked quite well overall for me.

oh and btw…

welcome aboard

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2006, 1:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-a-pheromone-newbie/696/3 "2006-09-25T13:36:10Z")

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welcome!  
laH laH laH, this is me singing the praises of H molecule ,lol.  
im not sure if there is any reason for men NOT to use TAH, which is not a “mix” but a single experimental molecule, i would definately try it.  
the guys here could say whether or not it is appropriate for a male signiture, but i will say it is wonderful for biz relations, being social, and for people just being _kind_ in general.🙂  
oh and …[Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) rocks!!!

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2006, 11:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-a-pheromone-newbie/696/4 "2006-09-25T23:02:28Z")

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Advice: Get to know your [pheromones](https://a314.com/), because they’re what let you mix. Be observant all the time while wearing pheromones, because hits can be subtle. Study and learn about body language. Observe how the pheromones affect you, not just everyone else. Try everything at every dose. Interact with people you’re experimenting with. Keep notes on your adventures. Keep notes on your mixes. Remember that still air is best. Don’t jump to conclusions. And last but not least, don’t drink and mone.

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**Author:** ![David](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@David](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/David)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2006, 1:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-a-pheromone-newbie/696/5 "2006-09-26T01:03:01Z")

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What happens if you drink and [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/)?

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**Author:** ![David](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@David](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/David)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2006, 2:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-a-pheromone-newbie/696/6 "2006-09-26T02:24:22Z")

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Thanks. Is TAH the same as estratetaenol?

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2006, 3:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-a-pheromone-newbie/696/7 "2006-09-26T03:14:25Z")

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> [@David](#):
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> Thanks. Is TAH the same as estratetaenol?

nope. run a search for TAH and all threads with TAH mentioned will come up. it is overwhelmingly pleasant at higher 20-25 mcg range 🙂

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2006, 7:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-a-pheromone-newbie/696/8 "2006-09-29T07:32:23Z")

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> [@David](#):
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> What happens if you drink and pheromone?

In my experience, you end up doing incredibly stupid things like put on too much, fail to cover stinky mones, or become so convinced that you’re invincible because of your mones that you double the ass that you make of yourself. Good stuff like that. Even a small amount of alcohol impairs your judgement to some degree.

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**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2006, 7:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-a-pheromone-newbie/696/9 "2006-09-29T07:54:35Z")

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Michael has said several times that men really should NOT use TAH or TAL on their own at all, without a masculine [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/).

There are several threads on this, so just do a search for “TAH” or “TAL” and you will find his recommendations for men wearing them successfully.

Ail 🙂

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2006, 10:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-a-pheromone-newbie/696/10 "2006-09-29T22:10:47Z")

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> [@Ail](#):
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> Michael has said several times that men really should NOT use TAH or TAL on their own at all, without a masculine pheromone product.
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> There are several threads on this, so just do a search for “TAH” or “TAL” and you will find his recommendations for men wearing them successfully.
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> Ail 🙂

what were your findings on wearing just TAL, Ail? i havent ried that on its own.

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**Author:** ![David](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@David](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/David)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2006, 10:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-a-pheromone-newbie/696/11 "2006-09-29T22:49:14Z")

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Thanks. I’m glad I asked.

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**Author:** ![David](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@David](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/David)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2006, 10:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-a-pheromone-newbie/696/12 "2006-09-29T22:51:53Z")

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