# Im back! A few notes.... **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 3, 2014, 8:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-back-a-few-notes/62742 "2014-09-03T20:30:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2014, 8:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-back-a-few-notes/62742/1 "2014-09-03T20:30:35Z")
First of all.. HI EVERYONE!!! I am a long time poster here at Pherotalk, however, the last year Ive been away focusing on some other websites. Low and behold there is one combo that had struck me as awesome many years back when I went out with it.. It was IS , a314b spray, and [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) (2 sprays). I had been going out with a GF of mine at the time, and I recall a beautiful 25 y.o Spanish woman saying to her friend – THAT WOMAN SHOULD BE LUCKY TO HAVE HIM.. as I walked by and was kino-ing my gf. Now I hear a314 is back but with rev 32. From reading the reports it seems rev 32 b spray is more user friendly than the A spray which is more aggressive. **However, are those of you using a314 rev 32 b spray getting just as good results with IS and AMMO in there with the mid twenties crowd..** I don’t mind going 25-35 as Im now 44. I figure for a younger women to seek out a 44 y.o . this 44 has to possess leadership (a314 ) , youth and vibrancy (IS) , and sex appeal (ammo). Input appreciated! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 6:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-back-a-few-notes/62742/2 "2014-09-04T06:00:04Z")
Nice to see you. That A314 B spray is epic. Throw a tiny bit of enone on it, AMMO, whatever, it is good. Some of the best shit Androtics has. 1 spray is pretty much it. 2 seems too much. 1 is just perfect. Don’t F it up. Add some TAA/Shine and something charming. [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/), P96, P83, IH. That will get you fallout. I’m telling you, MHarris, the ratios are just perfect. 1 spray. Some enone and IH + 74, they’ll eat out your hand. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 12:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-back-a-few-notes/62742/3 "2014-09-04T12:30:12Z")
> [@monesmadedoit](#): > > Nice to see you. That A314 B spray is epic. Throw a tiny bit of enone on it, AMMO, whatever, it is good. Some of the best shit Androtics has. 1 spray is pretty much it. 2 seems too much. 1 is just perfect. Don’t F it up. Add some TAA/Shine and something charming. P74, P96, P83, IH. That will get you fallout. I’m telling you, MHarris, the ratios are just perfect. 1 spray. Some enone and IH + 74, they’ll eat out your hand. Currently I just ordered A314b spray, and AMMO world . I have a huge bottle of shine at home already. Im thinking IS, AMMO , A314b. I don’t have any p74, p96, p83, or ih on me. Definitely looking for attraction and fallout. Im hoping ammo is not too casual for fallout. Would you insist I look into purchasing p74, p96, IH , or p83 for fallout…or will IS , Ammo, a314b do just as good… **GOOD TO BE BACK !!** ---
**Author:** ![CelticPrince](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/celticprince/32/397_2.png) [@CelticPrince](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CelticPrince)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 2:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-back-a-few-notes/62742/4 "2014-09-04T14:56:37Z")
Hi Dsouza, Welcome back! Looking forward to hearing how it goes with the a314b. ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2014, 10:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-back-a-few-notes/62742/5 "2014-09-06T22:57:50Z")
Really AMMO, 314 and Shine are pretty good. You don’t strictly need anything else. Actually just 314 and AMMO. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2014, 1:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-back-a-few-notes/62742/6 "2014-09-07T01:45:15Z")
> [@monesmadedoit](#): > > Really AMMO, 314 and Shine are pretty good. You don’t strictly need anything else. Actually just 314 and AMMO. I tend to be a little bit on the serious side. a314 without IS makes me into a drill sargent. Yes ammo is good. WHat doses (of these three) would you recommend for me to attract women 19-30 I was thinking 1 spray a314 b, 2 sprays ammo, 2-4 sprays shine. I am 44 and none deficient so I can get away with more ammo in there . Also Im using it for dating not running a business. This is why I think the ammo and IS help out.. Too much a314 can be in your face drill sargent and cause too much shit testing. Just a tad and your taken seriously but seen as the man to take orders from but whose happy go lucky ,charismatic and sexy. What do you think… I know this extremely MATURE 18 year old fillipino – in every way.. Her body, personality, and dress attire. Of course shes too young for me to get involved with now .. But given being an authoritative and personal figure in her life over the next 1-3 years, I could get it to lead to something down the road if were both single at the time and looking for love. Ive had a314 IS AMMO pull 23 y.o Russian power blonde like nothing else! Between that sig and p75 IO she would eat me alive (in a good way 🙂 ) ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2014, 1:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-back-a-few-notes/62742/7 "2014-09-07T01:57:10Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > I tend to be a little bit on the serious side. a314 without IS makes me into a drill sargent. Yes ammo is good. WHat doses (of these three) would you recommend for me to attract women 25-30 , max 35 MMDI > > I was thinking 1 spray a314 b, 2 sprays ammo, 2-4 sprays shine. I am 44 and none deficient so I can get away with more ammo in there . Pretty good. Ask if they have some 2X shine TOGO in the glass bottle to test. I’m currently looking at DHEA as the best, evidenced-based way to boost phero output. \< 50 milligrams would be a good start. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2014, 2:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-back-a-few-notes/62742/8 "2014-09-07T02:56:35Z")
> [@monesmadedoit](#): > > Pretty good. Ask if they have some 2X shine TOGO in the glass bottle to test. > > I’m currently looking at DHEA as the best, evidenced-based way to boost phero output. \< 50 milligrams would be a good start. **I guess the only way is to test , test and test some more**.. My AD order should arrive this Monday.. Ill go out with it several times this week to test it out. I bought 1 bottle ammo 30 ml, 3 togos of a314 b spray, and I have 80% 30 ml bottle of 2x shine left. My biggest fear, turning OFF younger women, which are my main targets. However, I figure most younger women will not go with older men unless they feel he has status to him. An older man whose just good looking and a good screw is bound to be replaced by 500 males candidates who are the younger womans age and just as good looking if not better. Its a no win. I have decent amounts of status , power, looks, univeristy degrees, clothing, car, condo, $$ in bank, personality, body, etc. I feel I can convince a younger women to think im on a james bond level relative to her level of achievement if 314b rev 32 is really as good as you make it seem. In your mind how attractive is rev 32 .. talking about fallout, IOI, VIP status, follow my lead etc at 1 spray . ---
**Author:** ![GorchFock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/90ced4/32.png) [@GorchFock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GorchFock)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2014, 1:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-back-a-few-notes/62742/9 "2014-09-07T13:33:44Z")
A314b spray is defenitely the best “fallout” product that I used so far. But I’ve always used it in conjunction with A1 to that purpose - that’s been the base for my mixes used to ensnare my then target and now fiancee. 1-2 sprays of A314b with 20-50 mcg of A1, varied and paired with, depending on the situation: 2xIS double, 2xIH or 1-2 Ammo. A314b A1 IS was most efficient. ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2014, 4:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-back-a-few-notes/62742/10 "2014-09-07T16:08:16Z")
I don’t know exactly how they make A314 give the respect effect. I can duplicate it in one mix I use. But it would take years to refine it. I made mine to be such that virtually no man would look me in the eye or speak. If you change the steering components, .5 mcg could make quite an effect. Also the formulation technique for oil. But A314 B was built upon the original work for the oil and then yet more for spray experiments. 314 B is more charming but not as powerful respect as oil per dose. I have not used the A spray. Based upon experience and reading…it seems like this. 314 oil balanced intentionally toward commanding, but not as much as earlier versions. B spray balanced toward charm. A ver. very commanding. For people who bitch about potency, A delivers, so I have been told. The 314 oil costs more, but then 2% compounded inflation of 10 years does that. You see it in coffee prices and the incredibly shrinking, air-filled chips bags at the store. Also chemical feedstock (acetonitrile). So, far from being accident, the A314 versions are what Michael wants. So I’ve heard. The sprays and oil deliver differently. For daytime, B spray alone is effective. The matter of bottle leaks is one that does need to be fixed and should actually be priority one. Higher than new MX’s. Good product in inferior bottles is not a winner. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2014, 10:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-back-a-few-notes/62742/11 "2014-09-07T22:05:19Z")
> [@GorchFock](#): > > A314b spray is defenitely the best “fallout” product that I used so far. But I’ve always used it in conjunction with A1 to that purpose - that’s been the base for my mixes used to ensnare my then target and now fiancee. > > 1-2 sprays of A314b with 20-50 mcg of A1, varied and paired with, depending on the situation: > > 2xIS double, 2xIH or 1-2 Ammo. > > A314b A1 IS was most efficient. Of course with a1 in there you would get fallout as a1 is the crushy comfort love mone. But many of us cant use a1 at all. So the question begs how good is fallout with a314b spray by itself! Earlier versions of a314 promised fallout. MMDI says the b spray is attractive and charming. I am assuming he means this ones best for dating.. Is this correct MMDI I wish to use a314b IS AMMO _ **EXCLUSIVELY** _ for _ **dating!** _ ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2014, 11:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-back-a-few-notes/62742/12 "2014-09-07T23:25:11Z")
> [@](#): > > I am assuming he means this ones best for dating Basically, yes. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 3:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-back-a-few-notes/62742/13 "2014-09-08T15:11:57Z")
My products a314b, AMMO, and IS have now arrived and are now ready to rock… 🙂 Let the games begin… ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 3:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-back-a-few-notes/62742/14 "2014-09-08T15:14:04Z")
> [@monesmadedoit](#): > > Basically, yes. I am going to take your vast knowledge of a314b as fact and push this juice as far as I can. I really am happy I decided on the rev 32 b SPRAY.. If it is indeed more attractive than just ruly it will make for a great dating crush effect. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![GorchFock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/90ced4/32.png) [@GorchFock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GorchFock)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 3:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-back-a-few-notes/62742/15 "2014-09-08T15:59:54Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > I am going to take your vast knowledge of a314b as fact and push this juice as far as I can. > > I really am happy I decided on the rev 32 b SPRAY.. If it is indeed more attractive than just ruly it will make for a great dating crush effect. > 😃 Have fun! Heed MMDI’s advice and stay on the low side of numbes of sprays. 1 or 2 max. Otherwise even the aura of the b-version can/will become too standoffish/stern for flirting or attracting. That’s my experience. IS is very good to round out 314b to a fresher, alluring image. ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 4:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-back-a-few-notes/62742/16 "2014-09-08T16:36:55Z")
It is only $20. Very little to lose by trying. It’s like a hybrid of 314 oil and IG. Slightly less respect, slightly more status, better social affects. You seem in reach not out of reach. People treat me as arrogant at times on the oil. Like I’m a rich snob. But I hang out in dive joints. So figure that. I don’t drink those $15 hipster NYC cocktails. You get my point. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 7:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-back-a-few-notes/62742/17 "2014-09-08T19:40:57Z")
Ok heads up. This is Pherotalk. Talking about products from other vendors is not really professional.. YET in this day and age almost all [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) adventurists are aware of the OTHER sites and OTHER products. Let us not think competition will destroy us but rather make us tenacious enough to want to surpass competition. This is the essence of good business. Now having said that.. Lets introduce WOLF by LAL. Clearly wolf provides an alpha vibe, VERY good with young women and Asians, and less intimidating and forced an aura than a314. WOLF is cunning whereas a314 is articulate. Wolf attracts a lot of young women in teens and twenties whereas a314 is said to even hit 50 y.o farts. WHAT DOES A314 have going for it on its OWN that WOLF does not. The power hungry CEO, VP, or Director using a314 gets his way but makes a lot of enemies too. Wolf get his way but knows how to do it cunningly enough to not come across as a prick. In theory wolf demolishes a314. So in the words of people who use both products.. WHY IS a314 BETTER. Especially if your goals are women in the 20s! WHY BOTHER WITH 20 y.o technology… This is not an attack on mones offered here, but merely a debate. Input please. (Sorry the question mark key on my keyboard is out of whack) ---
**Author:** ![andromun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/andromun/32/365_2.png) [@andromun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andromun)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 7:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-back-a-few-notes/62742/18 "2014-09-08T19:46:18Z")
I’m so glad to see **A314 B** getting the attention it deserves. I wrote a review on this gem in this board and the other as well a while ago. The respect I got from it was flat out crazy. I like this combo mentioned here, I’m going to try this out this weekend. Another great combo is [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) B + mx353 (1: 2) ratio is all you need to see the hits rolling in. ---
**Author:** ![vanadium](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c4cdca/32.png) [@vanadium](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vanadium)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 10:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-back-a-few-notes/62742/19 "2014-09-08T22:13:27Z")
Well, you certainly put your finger on it for me! Though your description of Wolf seems very appealing, I already get too many hits from twenty-somethings on A314, IG etc. They’re pretty (and yes, tempting), but catch and release isn’t my style, and ladies who have more in common with me may be put off by that kind of competition. A314/IG/etc. serve other purposes. I like having a full array of tools for diverse tasks. I may give Wolf a try, especially since I feel that heavy respect is over-rated [been there, got that, without pheros], but to me “more young girls” is a drawback. Ironically, I know a lot of guys who want the young girls more for display/respect than for any intrinsic merits. I do agree that allowing discussion of other phero products speaks highly of Androtics’ ethos. ---
**Author:** ![Dee\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7bcc69/32.png) [@Dee\_A](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dee_A)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2014, 3:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-back-a-few-notes/62742/20 "2014-09-09T15:36:34Z")
Ignore me. Just turning the cctv on. 😃 We do encourage discussions, as long as it is within our simple rules. Go! 🙂 [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-back-a-few-notes/62742.md?page=2)