# Im just a tad confused on this, Seeking Insights on Smell and use of products. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 22, 2012, 12:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-just-a-tad-confused-on-this-seeking-insights-on-smell-and-use-of-products/56210 "2012-07-22T12:21:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Carlosr416](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Carlosr416](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carlosr416)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2012, 12:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-just-a-tad-confused-on-this-seeking-insights-on-smell-and-use-of-products/56210/1 "2012-07-22T12:21:39Z")
I have not bought any products yet but am considering it. My contemplations have led me to a very interesting question. Left and right i hear that these Mones dont exactly smell appealing; nothing like what Calvin Klein would smell like or Armani Code which are all very appealing. So why is it that these claims are so aggressive with The Mones vs Seemingly attractive smells like the ones iv just mentioned…? Which leads to my next question. Would it be safe or is it ok or advised to mask the Mone of choice such as Turn up the heat with another cologne? I just find it counter intuitive to wear something that will bring forth results yet from what i hear smells like a sweaty locker room full of football players that havnt showered for 3 days… Please give me some insight into the principles of these products thanks you. Just so we are clear if this might help supply a suitable answer I guess what I am seeking from Pheromones is Confidence and character development. I want interactions to be smooth and unforgettable and hopefully attract the right other half if you know what im saying. I want to have a Sexual presence in general but expose it when the time is right, i feel that this will promote my Latin personality. I want to walk into a room and lay these qualities in the atmosphere. I am 19 going on 20, I Just started my Military Career. I am occasionally Shy, Im supper fit and considerably attractive. I love to LIft weights and watch what i eat. Its a Lifestyle. I dont feel like i am a great flirt of course… which makes me feel like it contradict my looks. DO Pheromones have the ability to change the wearers mood as well as those around him? such as [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) for example? And again… due to the smell… is it advised to wear it raw and bare? or is it okay to use designer colognes to add on to or does it make no difference masking the smell? Does masking it affect results? Thanks ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2012, 12:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-just-a-tad-confused-on-this-seeking-insights-on-smell-and-use-of-products/56210/2 "2012-07-22T12:44:24Z")
Pheromones are carried with in a scent but they dont smell good in themselves. Its not the smell of them that triggers a response. The scent they are carried in is inhaled and travels threw the olfactory system to the brain where they trigger neurotransmitters. Neurotransmitters are endogenous chemicals that send signals in the brain and have much to do with our emotions and how we feel. Pheromones can smell like shit and still trigger those transmitters because its not about the scent its about the chemical reaction in the brain. Of course we dont want to go around smelling like shit in this day and age so we use cover scents. The cover also binds with the mones and helps diffuse them off the body so people can inhale them. TUTH smells pretty good if you ask me. It comes with a neroli cover scent. Some people are sensitive to the smell of anone and may notice a pee smell. Its rare though if your using a cover with it. Yes you can cover them with another cologne if you want to. Neroli tends to blend well with anything and is used as a binder in most high end colognes. TUTH is not really your every day pheromones. Its best used in a sexually charged situation or environment. Thats its purpose, to [Turn Up the Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/). I would suggest AMMO. Ammo doesn’t come in neroli unless you order it that way. It comes with a cologne cover scent. Summer addition would be perfect for your personality giving you a confident sexy masculine vibe and being more social then the original AMMO. > [@](#): > > DO Pheromones have the ability to change the wearers mood as well as those around him? such as Instant Shine for example? And again… due to the smell… Yes some people get self effects. You tend to get used to them though so you dont notice them as much. Many people feel more outgoing confident and happy wearing them. Its depends on which mones your wearing. Again yes you can cover with your own scents if you want and it will not lessen the effectiveness of the mones. If its a highly diffusive scent it tends to aid them in working better. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Carlosr416](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Carlosr416](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carlosr416)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2012, 8:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-just-a-tad-confused-on-this-seeking-insights-on-smell-and-use-of-products/56210/3 "2012-07-22T20:23:06Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Pheromones are carried with in a scent but they dont smell good in themselves. Its not the smell of them that triggers a response. > > The scent they are carried in is inhaled and travels threw the olfactory system to the brain where they trigger neurotransmitters. Neurotransmitters are endogenous chemicals that send signals in the brain and have much to do with our emotions and how we feel. > > Pheromones can smell like shit and still trigger those transmitters because its not about the scent its about the chemical reaction in the brain. Of course we dont want to go around smelling like shit in this day and age so we use cover scents. The cover also binds with the mones and helps diffuse them off the body so people can inhale them. > > TUTH smells pretty good if you ask me. It comes with a neroli cover scent. Some people are sensitive to the smell of anone and may notice a pee smell. Its rare though if your using a cover with it. Yes you can cover them with another cologne if you want to. Neroli tends to blend well with anything and is used as a binder in most high end colognes. > > TUTH is not really your every day pheromones. Its best used in a sexually charged situation or environment. Thats its purpose, to Turn Up the Heat. > > I would suggest AMMO. Ammo doesn’t come in neroli unless you order it that way. It comes with a cologne cover scent. Summer addition would be perfect for your personality giving you a confident sexy masculine vibe and being more social then the original AMMO. > > Yes some people get self effects. You tend to get used to them though so you dont notice them as much. Many people feel more outgoing confident and happy wearing them. Its depends on which mones your wearing. > > Again yes you can cover with your own scents if you want and it will not lessen the effectiveness of the mones. If its a highly diffusive scent it tends to aid them in working better. > > Tisha Wow.. let me thank you oh so very much! This is the kind of intellectual answer i was looking for. The whole neurotransmitter explanations and what not alongside the fundamental theories or what not, all too perfect. I feel like i now know what I am about to embark myself with. I truly do appreciate the suggestions as well. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) summer edition i wasnt to convinced but I am Going to take your word for it. THANKS! \<3 Now another question if i may…? Explain to me a little bit more about A314 and its effects alongside WHY instant jerk costs so much more as well as instant openess and honesty (which both seem the same to me -\_-) but i dont really know so if i could get some more intellectual insights on these products please? much appreciated! ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 1:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-just-a-tad-confused-on-this-seeking-insights-on-smell-and-use-of-products/56210/4 "2012-07-23T01:55:03Z")
The high cost of some products is due to a shortage of certain good quality component molecules. This thread should answer most about it: > [@The Future of Pheromone Technology: The Golden 13 Molecules.](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-future-of-pheromone-technology-the-golden-13-molecules/54034): > > Hello Folks. The future of pheromone technology. Mighty molecules with incredible effects. Innovative formulas. Repeatable results. Sustainable production. We can have all of this. If we focus on THIRTEEN GOLDEN molecules. Read on to get the backstory. Or just scroll to the bottom so you know which ten we’re talking about. These are the molecules we’ve invested in for the future. These are the molecules we have figured out how to make sustainably. Every one of them is a Pure Lab Standard,… ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 2:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-just-a-tad-confused-on-this-seeking-insights-on-smell-and-use-of-products/56210/5 "2012-07-23T02:10:12Z")
Your Welcome 🙂 > [@](#): > > Explain to me a little bit more about [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) and its effects alongside WHY instant jerk costs so much more as well as instant openness and honesty (which both seem the same to me -\_-) but i don’t really know so if i could get some more intellectual insights on these products please? much appreciated! A314 is the alpha respect mix. It gives the vibe of the Alpha in the room, the man in charge. Women tend to draw towards the Alpha in a group. It projects confidence, strength of character, authoritative and trustful. It can be a little intimidating so you need to take the lead when using it. If your shy or have trouble approaching females it may be harder for you to use. As to why [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) and some of the others cost so much. This is a bit of a controversial question. I can only convey what we have been told but the managers. AD uses only American made pure human pheromones. Many other companies buy there mones overseas and they are less then pure and not as effective. This is not to say there are not good quality companies out there besides AD though. You tend to get what you pay for in the mone business. Some of the molecules used in the mixes here are exclusively formulated for AD and are hard to come by and in limited quantities. This is another reason certain mixes are more then others. Some of those mixes contain one or more of those limited putatives. I will say this, I use pheromones from many different companies. Most are effective to some degree. AD’s products are consistently very effective for me and are my favorites when it comes to mone use. I like the way you can layer different mixes and putatives for different effects to fit situations if you want. For instance what I would wear to work is different then what I would use for a social event or an intimate encounter. They also have more understanding and know how when it comes to formulating ratios and steering other putatives making there products more superior in my opinion to others I have tried. IO and IH Yes they are both what we like to call socials. Its not that a social is not attractive or arousing. We tend to label them by there strongest character trait though. So don’t under estimate the power of the social type mones to causes attraction and arousal. IO is attractive. Primarily anol. It gives off a fun friendly open easy to talk to vibe. People feel comfortable approaching and talking with you. Your giving of a fun, playful, flirtatious and easy to be around signal. IH (which is primarily Bnol) is similar in that it gives the vibe of easy to talk to however people tend to trust more with it and connect deeper with you. You will notice its more intimate. People feel like they have known you forever and can share anything and believe me sometimes they do LOL. It can increase intimacy in a sexual encounter as well. While IO would be more playful and flirtatious IH is its more serious intense counterpart. IJ on the other hand has changed a bit over the years. It used to have a player vibe to it. Sort of the man in demand all the girls diddle around with vibe due to the copulin content. They no longer sell copulins here so that was emitted from the mix and replaced with another molecule that is rare and limited. Now its just a raw sexually aggressive vibe. Some women will take to it, usually older cougar type women who likes the higher anone content. Younger women tend to get the immature male slut vibe which can turn them off or make them wary of you. Hence the IJ name. I dont suggest you begin with this one. AMMO is more for over all attraction. Its to create interest, sexiness and project popularity and masculinity. Ammo is well rounded in that it has the masculine respect mones (arone) the sexually charged mone (anone) and the social buffer (anol) all wrapped into one mix so its very versatile and can be worn anywhere. Summer additon has some added putatives which are proving to be popular with the men as well. If you want something more sexual you would use TUTH (primarily anone) but its best used when a girl has already experienced the above feeling with a guy and is comfortable with him or in a sexually charged environment like a bar or party. TUTH projects a male primed and ready to mate signal. Women tend to be a bit different in men in approaching intimate encounters. Men are more instinctual and will act on arousal faster. Women are more emotionally driven creatures. If we don’t feel comfort and connection it doesn’t matter how aroused we are. We wont engage in it. So if you choose TUTH be sure to get some of the socials to buffer the aggressive vibe or where it in the proper environment. Word on anone \>\>\>\> Younger guys have higher testosterone levels thus secrete a bit more of the pheromones that make anone. Dosage with this one is critical because to much and you get the OD effect. That means opposite of desired effect. People will avoid the overly aggressive male. This is another reason AMMO is best to start out with. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Carlosr416](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Carlosr416](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carlosr416)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 5:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-just-a-tad-confused-on-this-seeking-insights-on-smell-and-use-of-products/56210/6 "2012-07-23T17:52:01Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Your Welcome 🙂 > > IO and IH > > Yes they are both what we like to call socials. Its not that a social is not attractive or arousing. We tend to label them by there strongest character trait though. So don’t under estimate the power of the social type mones to causes attraction and arousal. > > IO is attractive. Primarily anol. It gives off a fun friendly open easy to talk to vibe. People feel comfortable approaching and talking with you. Your giving of a fun, playful, flirtatious and easy to be around signal. > > IH (which is primarily Bnol) is similar in that it gives the vibe of easy to talk to however people tend to trust more with it and connect deeper with you. You will notice its more intimate. People feel like they have known you forever and can share anything and believe me sometimes they do LOL. It can increase intimacy in a sexual encounter as well. While IO would be more playful and flirtatious IH is its more serious intense counterpart. > > Tisha ooookay perfect! soo it seems everything is making more and more sense to me now. BUT alright check this out; I had intended to purchase Ammo and [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), But it seems that as you stated above Instant Shine is similar to IO. Is there something i might be missing here perhaps? Thanks again for your time and wisdom. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 6:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-just-a-tad-confused-on-this-seeking-insights-on-smell-and-use-of-products/56210/7 "2012-07-23T18:07:17Z")
> [@Carlosr416](#): > > ooookay perfect! soo it seems everything is making more and more sense to me now. BUT alright check this out; I had intended to purchase Ammo and Instant Shine, But it seems that as you stated above Instant Shine is similar to IO. Is there something i might be missing here perhaps? Thanks again for your time and wisdom. No Ishine is an entirely different putative then whats in IO. There are similarities to some but just like with emotions that are similar there are subtle differences and levels to those emotions. Ishine is not so open and chatty like IO. Its warm and inviting and gives off a charming charismatic vibe. Of course all three IH IO and Ishine cause a feeling of comfort but there are different levels to comfort. Ishine draws people and makes them feel good. Kinda like a cat is drawn to lay in the sun all purring and content. People feel that vibe around you and soon associate it to you. Ammo and Ishine pair nicely. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Tiger35](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@Tiger35](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tiger35)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 6:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-just-a-tad-confused-on-this-seeking-insights-on-smell-and-use-of-products/56210/8 "2012-07-23T18:14:52Z")
Thank you very much Tisha. This post and the one before are very informative. IMO they should be stickied for us newbies. Again thank you. Tiger35 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Carlosr416](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Carlosr416](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carlosr416)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 6:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-just-a-tad-confused-on-this-seeking-insights-on-smell-and-use-of-products/56210/9 "2012-07-23T18:25:10Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > No Ishine is an entirely different putative then whats in IO. > > There are similarities to some but just like with emotions that are similar there are subtle differences and levels to those emotions. > > Ishine is not so open and chatty like IO. Its warm and inviting and gives off a charming charismatic vibe. Of course all three IH IO and Ishine cause a feeling of comfort but there are different levels to comfort. Ishine draws people and makes them feel good. Kinda like a cat is drawn to lay in the sun all purring and content. People feel that vibe around you and soon associate it to you. > > Ammo and Ishine pair nicely. > > Tisha Understood. Soo i suppose thats a good combination to start with me being 19 and new to this new discovery (in my world of things i mean). Any Other recommendations or valuable nuggets of information i should know about please feel free to lay it on me 🙂 Im on the fence about the alphas too but im not so sure yet. hopfully if my experiences go will with this i would love to consider IO and IH. But help me out here in finding the path that suits me (hypothetically speaking) I am naturally a very passionate man, I love to connect with people, I wouldnt say pick at their brains like a Psychologist would (even though Its my career path in the military as this is what I am studying for) but i enjoy intimacy like any Don Juan would and Hot burning passion is my style subtle and classy remarks and approaches and interactions are my deal. Would you say IH is the one for me when that time comes or IO? ANd tiger isn’t Tisha amazing?! hahah Very insightful she is the best. I really appreciate you taking the time out of your day to help a scrub like myself out with the out most humility of course ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 1:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-just-a-tad-confused-on-this-seeking-insights-on-smell-and-use-of-products/56210/10 "2012-07-24T01:11:01Z")
Your both quite welcome. 🙂 [Pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) can be confusing at first and I like helping people get a good start. > [@](#): > > Would you say [IH](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) is the one for me when that time comes or [IO](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) ? Yes I think IH would probably fit you more. I tend to like it better then IO. IO can make people babble sometimes about useless things. It does attract and pull them in but sometimes you just feel like saying “shut the hell up” LOL I like the deepness and connective aspects of IH as well as its ability to increase intimacy with less babble. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Carlosr416](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Carlosr416](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carlosr416)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 8:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-just-a-tad-confused-on-this-seeking-insights-on-smell-and-use-of-products/56210/11 "2012-07-25T08:40:40Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Your both quite welcome. 🙂 Pheromones can be confusing at first and I like helping people get a good start. > > Yes I think IH would probably fit you more. I tend to like it better then IO. IO can make people babble sometimes about useless things. It does attract and pull them in but sometimes you just feel like saying “shut the hell up” LOL I like the deepness and connective aspects of IH as well as its ability to increase intimacy with less babble. > > Tisha Lol here is a good one. Which one would work best against an ex Girlfriend that claims she doesnt love you anymore. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 11:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-just-a-tad-confused-on-this-seeking-insights-on-smell-and-use-of-products/56210/12 "2012-07-25T11:40:10Z")
> [@Carlosr416](#): > > Lol here is a good one. Which one would work best against an ex Girlfriend that claims she doesnt love you anymore. Well if you want the truth from her IH. Be sure you want the truth though. You just dont stop loving someone. Once felt its felt and dosnt go away so if its true she never did in the first place. Not saying thats the case here. She’s probably just not in the “new love” feeling state anymore. Sort of that infatuated crush state which is chemical by the way. Try some A1 and IH. You can get some Dial magnetic body wash at any drug store and that has just enough A1 in it. 😉 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Carlosr416](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Carlosr416](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carlosr416)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 12:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-just-a-tad-confused-on-this-seeking-insights-on-smell-and-use-of-products/56210/13 "2012-07-25T12:16:00Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Well if you want the truth from her IH. Be sure you want the truth though. > > You just dont stop loving someone. Once felt its felt and dosnt go away so if its true she never did in the first place. Not saying thats the case here. She’s probably just not in the “new love” feeling state anymore. Sort of that infatuated crush state which is chemical by the way. Try some A1 and IH. You can get some Dial magnetic body wash at any drug store and that has just enough A1 in it. 😉 > > Tisha awesome thanks, and yeah thats what i thought… found out this morning and im in a pool of confusion. Im hoping to get some good results out of this. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 1:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-just-a-tad-confused-on-this-seeking-insights-on-smell-and-use-of-products/56210/14 "2012-07-25T13:27:35Z")
If you are thinking about using A1 here, you need to remember that it takes repeated exposure for its romantic effects to take hold and as well as IH, IS helps keep things to the good side and status pheros like IG or A314 also help to imbue certain suitable relationship qualities apace. ---
**Author:** ![Carlosr416](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Carlosr416](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carlosr416)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 9:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-just-a-tad-confused-on-this-seeking-insights-on-smell-and-use-of-products/56210/15 "2012-07-25T21:36:59Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > If you are thinking about using A1 here, you need to remember that it takes repeated exposure for its romantic effects to take hold and as well as IH, IS helps keep things to the good side and status pheros like IG or A314 also help to imbue certain suitable relationship qualities apace. which one provides quickest results in the least amount of encounters? Will IS and A314 open a door for me to have her want to come back and hang out again even after what was said and claimed to be felt? if all she is going through is chemical then i still have windows of opening do i not? she makes it nearly impossible to see each other cause its a “bad idea” (im the dumbass that got dumped) In order for IH and AMMO to work i need her to want to be around me again. What is my best shot at this after just one encounter assuming i get it? I realize now that all these products can be mixed and tailored to certain situations. This is situational, not like my more generic purpose which is to attract other women. Thanks again for your help (apologies if what i said made little to no sense.. its late xD) oh.. please explain to me in a little more detail how i could better implement A314? aside from being alpha and demanding or what not. how effective is it and how quickly does it produce results. (for example in forms of an arguement, or sireous talk about a certain matter, is it enough to keep them in the convo and interested?) or am i missing the whole point here? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 4:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-just-a-tad-confused-on-this-seeking-insights-on-smell-and-use-of-products/56210/16 "2012-07-27T04:46:36Z")
> [@Carlosr416](#): > > which one provides quickest results in the least amount of encounters? > > if all she is going through is chemical then i still have windows of opening do i not? she makes it nearly impossible to see each other cause its a “bad idea” (im the dumbass that got dumped) > > oh.. please explain to me in a little more detail how i could better implement A314? aside from being alpha and demanding or what not. how effective is it and how quickly does it produce results. (for example in forms of an arguement, or sireous talk about a certain matter, is it enough to keep them in the convo and interested?) or am i missing the whole point here? That is difficult to say - A big part of this will be the pheros she is most responsive to and the kind of situations that promoted her feelings of attraction for you in the first place. It will do no harm not to see her for a while just now, in fact a good break before returning with your new phero sig (and a more developed personality/presentation/attitude) can make the impact all the better. The best way to make use of A314 is to get stuck-in to it, find your best dose and get used to the new reactions to your signature. I found this took about a month and yes, there were a few moments I did wonder why I was bothering. Then I ran into my ex! 😉 Eventually you and those around you will adjust and the A314 will work seamlessly without thought - Be yourself, assert yourself and be unrepeantant about it is what I would say. As for which phero - That is really up to your knowledge of her and what kinds of signature might turn her on. At you age, I’m not convinced that A314 might be best - Girls around your age often go for a lighter/more social signature, so IG or something else might be better. Then combine this with something like IH, to help reconnection and a sexual and steer it with IS for a happy mood or Add some A1 to help build the “crush” effect, and it could work very quickly, or build over a number of months. It also depends on the situation as well and meeting where she could let her inhibitions slip or get carried away with her feelings can be more conducive than a chat over a nice cup of tea! ---
**Author:** ![Carlosr416](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Carlosr416](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carlosr416)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 11:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-just-a-tad-confused-on-this-seeking-insights-on-smell-and-use-of-products/56210/17 "2012-07-27T11:39:24Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > That is difficult to say - A big part of this will be the pheros she is most responsive to and the kind of situations that promoted her feelings of attraction for you in the first place. > > It will do no harm not to see her for a while just now, in fact a good break before returning with your new phero sig (and a more developed personality/presentation/attitude) can make the impact all the better. > > The best way to make use of A314 is to get stuck-in to it, find your best dose and get used to the new reactions to your signature. I found this took about a month and yes, there were a few moments I did wonder why I was bothering. Then I ran into my ex! 😉 > > Eventually you and those around you will adjust and the A314 will work seamlessly without thought - Be yourself, assert yourself and be unrepeantant about it is what I would say. > > As for which phero - That is really up to your knowledge of her and what kinds of signature might turn her on. At you age, I’m not convinced that A314 might be best - Girls around your age often go for a lighter/more social signature, so IG or something else might be better. Then combine this with something like IH, to help reconnection and a sexual and steer it with IS for a happy mood or Add some A1 to help build the “crush” effect, and it could work very quickly, or build over a number of months. It also depends on the situation as well and meeting where she could let her inhibitions slip or get carried away with her feelings can be more conducive than a chat over a nice cup of tea! Well Thanks again for all you wisdom and advice, its very valid suggestions. I finally made a purchase last night. I ordered a TO GO version of instant Honesty to start with, And I ordered IG, Ammo (summer version) and [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). Im very excited to use them and get some results. If there are any suggestions in terms of using these four products in certain ways for certain results please shower me with your knowledge! 🙂 I know i probably went a little over bored in terms of buying this much being a first timer, but with all that iv heard here im convinced and have faith in the product and the quality provided. Much appreciated and THANKS A TON! once again 🙂 Much love from Miami and North Carolina My friends. ---
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Yeah great posts everybody! ---
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> [@Carlosr416](#): > > Well Thanks again for all you wisdom and advice, its very valid suggestions. I finally made a purchase last night. I ordered a TO GO version of instant Honesty to start with, And I ordered IG, Ammo (summer version) and Instant Shine. Im very excited to use them and get some results. If there are any suggestions in terms of using these four products in certain ways for certain results please shower me with your knowledge! 🙂 I know i probably went a little over bored in terms of buying this much being a first timer, but with all that iv heard here im convinced and have faith in the product and the quality provided. Much appreciated and THANKS A TON! once again 🙂 Much love from Miami and North Carolina My friends. Id like to chime in and add to the wealth of knowledge and comment. I have gotten plenty of compliments with the scent of normal Ammo, as well as IS. People like the scents,. [Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is a bit different from Normal Ammo, it is lighter and more social. Being young it is perfect when that is the age of woman you are after. IS and Ammo is a money mixture. It says you are fun, charismatic and confident with a but of sexuality mixed into the fold. IG gives off a lighter vibe of alpha, more refined if you will. Pairing that with IH gave off the vibe of your are a dependable and trust worthy person whom I can speak with about important things. Good for getting people to spill their beans if you will. Socials like IS and IH are great for younger women. It gives you a fun and less suggestive aura that keeps the positive qualities. You can steer them with your actions and intentions to make things happen. The primary molecule of Phero’s like TuTH, A-314 and Ammo is more suggestive sexually and can turn younger ladies off. It is much more challenging to steer these into being non-suggestive without buffering. Buffering is using socials to make the potency of suggestive mones less blatant. Most socials can be mixed or added to enhance other products. They are very versatile. I would suggest getting (eventually) all socials in to-go versions and giving them a whirl and seeing how they mix with what you currently have. The aforementioned IG and IH pair well as do Ammo and IS. Ammo and IS is my favorite combination. I use a 2 to 1 ratio for IG/IH and a 1 to 1 for Ammo IS. Thats number of sprays to number of sprays. To-go gives you slightly less per spray, keep that in mind. Ammo/IS would pair well with IH but I would ensure to keep the ratio to 2 - 1 in respect to two sprays of each Ammo and IS to one IH to keep it on the back burner a bit. Application points is a must read thread and a good spot to find other mixes is the journal section. I can rattle off combinations but advise you find what effects you want and read through people who have done it already. Lastly, you make of the vast majority of the mones effects, IS makes you vibrant but if you do not socialize, it is a waste. IH helps conversations flow and be meaningful, but you need to spark the conversation. Make the effort, the mones will help. As per the GF issue, IH will help but you must initiate the conversation and direct it to that topic thread. A314 or IG will help you seem authoritative to make steering the direction more natural, but you need to bring it up. Good luck bud. ---
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thanks so much, I love the suggestions and the overall thread. The ratios are a great way to look a things as well. Much appreciated! Umm but you are aware i have Ammo summer right? from what iv read it holds some TAA or what not. Similar to what comprises IS correct? if so wouldnt that combination in my case be excessive? I mean ill try it again and see what i can make of it. But let me know your input on this if you will 🙂 [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-just-a-tad-confused-on-this-seeking-insights-on-smell-and-use-of-products/56210.md?page=2)