# I'm sick of it! I'm about to Get A314 and throw in the towel! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 24, 2010, 7:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-sick-of-it-im-about-to-get-a314-and-throw-in-the-towel/37266 "2010-03-24T19:31:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![allenk893](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@allenk893](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/allenk893)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 7:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-sick-of-it-im-about-to-get-a314-and-throw-in-the-towel/37266/1 "2010-03-24T19:31:14Z")
Hello everyone. I’m ranting today because I’m fed up with the way my life is currently going and I’m fed up with the disrespect. I’m 17 years old and I’m smart, outgoing, nice, kinda shy, and my own person. I’m a generally good guy. But I don’t get any kind of respect. Ever since I was younger, I’ve been that nice shy new kid that you always see in the movies and stuff? It’s pathetic. People don’t push me around because I don’t let them but I do get disrespect from people thinking that I’m weak. Girls think I’m weak alot. The only time I seem to get any kind of respect is when I am angry. I’m a beast when I’m mad. I rile up, my voice gets deeper, I start yelling and cussing crazy, I get straight up in whoever’s face and I shove them real hard and then start throwing punches. I get really aggressive. But it takes me FOREVER to get to that point. I put with alot before that happens. It shocks people when I get like that and it’s whole story in school when it does. I guess I’m complex like that in the sense that I have two sides. But that’s not even the point. The point is, who I am in daily life, the nice shy guy, is just ruining my life. I’m not even shy! The real person I am inside is a jerk. A critical analytical jerk off who is depressing and boring. The only reason I put up the nice shy act is because when I used to be myself, people told me I used to look angry and menacing. And my grandma once checked me for staring at her wrong even though I wasn’t. So I decided to change and look more approachable and sociable so I started smiling alot more and acting nice a bit more and I’ve been putting up this act ever since 7th grade. If I was to be myself, nobody would like me at all. So I’m in a bit of dilemma. I want to order A314 and throw in the towel and see what happens. It’s not like that alpha male type isn’t apart of me already. Every guy has that side of him. It’s just some guys learn to integrate it more into their personality earlier than others. I’m one of those guys. Not to mention the fact that I’ve been raised around by my single mom and my sister. I will admit I’m not an alpha male upfront but I bring it out when I need to. So it’s not like this will be some “major” change in my personality. I just need to show people that I’m not a punk you can punk around. Respect me for who I am and I will respect you and we’re all good. I don’t need Alpha A314 but I need a boost right about now to drive it out because I sure ain’t in the mood lately to act like something else I’m not. I was just wondering if you guys thought this was a good idea? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![the\_muffin\_man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/71c47a/32.png) [@the\_muffin\_man](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/the_muffin_man)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-sick-of-it-im-about-to-get-a314-and-throw-in-the-towel/37266/2 "2010-03-24T19:49:10Z")
Hey man I know what it feels like to be in your position however do know that respect is not brought on directly by Alpha, it just allows you to care less therefore you come off as more confident in your skin, alpha is definitely my favorite product I even wrote a thread recently recommending it, but if you feel the real you is a jerk-type personality inside than alpha may not necessarily be what you need right now as you will not gain the respect you want by bringing that out , I personally feel you should give instant gentleman a try that way you can be the type of person everyone wants to be around without being a pushover because IG has a smooth confidence to it like a James Bond feel if you get what I am saying I think some IG and Instant shine would work very well for you. Some people may say to try instant jerk but if thats a part of your personality than it is not recommended as it will make you too aggressive. Good luck 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![allenk893](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@allenk893](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/allenk893)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 7:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-sick-of-it-im-about-to-get-a314-and-throw-in-the-towel/37266/3 "2010-03-24T19:58:16Z")
> [@the\_muffin\_man](#): > > Hey man I know what it feels like to be in your position however do know that respect is not brought on directly by Alpha, it just allows you to care less therefore you come off as more confident in your skin, alpha is definitely my favorite product I even wrote a thread recently recommending it, but if you feel the real you is a jerk-type personality inside than alpha may not necessarily be what you need right now as you will not gain the respect you want by bringing that out , I personally feel you should give instant gentleman a try that way you can be the type of person everyone wants to be around without being a pushover because IG has a smooth confidence to it like a James Bond feel if you get what I am saying I think some IG and Instant shine would work very well for you. > Some people may say to try instant jerk but if thats a part of your personality than it is not recommended as it will make you too aggressive. > Good luck > 🆒 Oh wow thanks man. You know I was JUST thinking about [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) because I was reading my old introductory post and several people recommended that to me as well based on my age. I want to try that one. Btw, I’m not a jerk in the sense where I will immediately tell people off the bat what I think about them. I’m a jerk in the sense that I criticize people constantly in my mind. I would never actually tell people what I feel about them. I think IG is my best bet because I do want to display a masculine affection type thing. I’m not the worst looking guy and I’m already in with alot of girls. They think I’m a nice shy guy too so they like me as a good friend. But I know what they really think. It’s weak. So idk it sounds good from the description. I wonder how much it affects young women though. ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 8:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-sick-of-it-im-about-to-get-a314-and-throw-in-the-towel/37266/4 "2010-03-24T20:04:23Z")
> [@allenk893](#): > > Hello everyone. I’m ranting today because I’m fed up with the way my life is currently going and I’m fed up with the disrespect. I’m 17 years old and I’m smart, outgoing, nice, kinda shy, and my own person. I’m a generally good guy. But I don’t get any kind of respect. Ever since I was younger, I’ve been that nice shy new kid that you always see in the movies and stuff? It’s pathetic. People don’t push me around because I don’t let them but I do get disrespect from people thinking that I’m weak. Girls think I’m weak alot. The only time I seem to get any kind of respect is when I am angry. I’m a beast when I’m mad. I rile up, my voice gets deeper, I start yelling and cussing crazy, I get straight up in whoever’s face and I shove them real hard and then start throwing punches. I get really aggressive. But it takes me FOREVER to get to that point. I put with alot before that happens. It shocks people when I get like that and it’s whole story in school when it does. I guess I’m complex like that in the sense that I have two sides. But that’s not even the point. The point is, who I am in daily life, the nice shy guy, is just ruining my life. I’m not even shy! The real person I am inside is a jerk. A critical analytical jerk off who is depressing and boring. The only reason I put up the nice shy act is because when I used to be myself, people told me I used to look angry and menacing. And my grandma once checked me for staring at her wrong even though I wasn’t. So I decided to change and look more approachable and sociable so I started smiling alot more and acting nice a bit more and I’ve been putting up this act ever since 7th grade. If I was to be myself, nobody would like me at all. So I’m in a bit of dilemma. > > I want to order A314 and throw in the towel and see what happens. It’s not like that alpha male type isn’t apart of me already. Every guy has that side of him. It’s just some guys learn to integrate it more into their personality earlier than others. I’m one of those guys. Not to mention the fact that I’ve been raised around by my single mom and my sister. I will admit I’m not an alpha male upfront but I bring it out when I need to. So it’s not like this will be some “major” change in my personality. I just need to show people that I’m not a punk you can punk around. Respect me for who I am and I will respect you and we’re all good. I don’t need Alpha A314 but I need a boost right about now to drive it out because I sure ain’t in the mood lately to act like something else I’m not. I was just wondering if you guys thought this was a good idea? 😕 What you are getting from being angry and aggessive is not respect. That is fear and anxiety, as you must know. You are still very young, and true respect is something that is earned through your behavior and actions over time. Being a nice, somewhat shy guy does not make you weak, and the people who think you are are jerks who don’t know the meaning of the word. Don’t join them, stay yourself, you will come into your own, they will be the losers in the end. Believe me, I know. I was moved around a lot, and was always the new kid. As a result, it was hard to make friends. I was shy and smart and nice, and it hurt to be not accepted and part of everyone, especially at that age when popularity and acceptance have such importance placed on them. I know exactly how you feel, basically “Fuck them!”. 😠 But don’t lower yourself to their level, always keep that in mind. Their behavior obviously shows that they are creatures of lesser intellect and genetic makeup. My escape was heavy metal, listening to aggressive music helped to relieve some of the aggression I felt, which was very similar to what you are feeling. As a result, I became stronger and more independent. I did my own thing, and didn’t follow the herd. I am intelligent, creative, kind and caring, qualities that those others didn’t have. I am beautiful and educated, those people are probably janitors at fast food restaurants, or worse. Have you tried [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/)? It has the respectful qualities of A314, while still allowing you to be the good person that you are, a perfect balance. And remember, those losers are not even worth the energy and grief and time you are spending trying to deal with it. Are they thinking about it? Hell no. Don’t waste your energy on them life is too short. Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, hold your head high and remember what qualities really count in a person, and who will really be the winners and losers in the end. ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 8:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-sick-of-it-im-about-to-get-a314-and-throw-in-the-towel/37266/5 "2010-03-24T20:07:47Z")
Allen, I think A314 is an excellent idea. You might, eventually, find that Ammo or [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) or some combination of those is the best choice for you. I, however, believe your judgment is correct that A314 is the place to start. It has changed the lives of many men with dissatisfactions similar to your own. It is relatively inexpensive because it lasts a long time. If you like it, you may then experiment with adding IO or IH or Instant Shine to the mix to make it more social, but the newest version is social enough, already. Growing into a man is difficult for all of us. Males who deny that are liars or are in denial. Growing up without a father makes it more difficult for you to find your way. I want to make another suggestion: Join a fraternal organization. No, I do not mean a college fraternity. I mean an organization like the Freemasons, Knights of Columbus, Rotary Club, Lions Club, Elks Club, etc. Some allow women, some do not. Find one that is, at least, _predominantly_ male. That’s the whole point! Joining the brotherhood of men, of multiple generations, will be amazingly good for you. ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 8:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-sick-of-it-im-about-to-get-a314-and-throw-in-the-towel/37266/6 "2010-03-24T20:13:40Z")
Those are great organizations that Warren suggested. And I have another suggestion, it is called Mankind, and teaches men the meaning of true masculinity and accountability, what being a man is really all about. It has fabulous reviews, and has totally changed people’s lives. [Welcome to the ManKind Project | Changing the world, one man at a time. | Men’s Issues | Men’s Support | Men’s Community](http://mankindproject.org/) ---
**Author:** ![allenk893](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@allenk893](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/allenk893)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 8:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-sick-of-it-im-about-to-get-a314-and-throw-in-the-towel/37266/7 "2010-03-24T20:25:14Z")
> [@Warren](#): > > Allen, I think A314 is an excellent idea. You might, eventually, find that Ammo or Instant Gentleman or some combination of those is the best choice for you. I, however, believe your judgment is correct that A314 is the place to start. It has changed the lives of many men with dissatisfactions similar to your own. It is relatively inexpensive because it lasts a long time. If you like it, you may then experiment with adding IO or IH or Instant Shine to the mix to make it more social, but the newest version is social enough, already. > > Growing into a man is difficult for all of us. Males who deny that are liars or are in denial. Growing up without a father makes it more difficult for you to find your way. I want to make another suggestion: Join a fraternal organization. No, I do not mean a college fraternity. I mean an organization like the Freemasons, Knights of Columbus, Rotary Club, Lions Club, Elks Club, etc. Some allow women, some do not. Find one that is, at least, _predominantly_ male. That’s the whole point! Joining the brotherhood of men, of multiple generations, will be amazingly good for you. Thank you for your advice! But I just had to say something. I am NOT growing up without my dad! We all lived under one roof until I was about 8 years old. My mother and father just got divorced but I do see him. lol But I picked up on feminine qualities as a result of growing up around mostly women. I’m not effeminate in the least but I picked up on some things that would make people question. I don’t feel like I have lost a brotherly or bond connection with men. It’s just that I’m not as aggressive and upfront and dominating as much as an alpha male is. I can feel that inside me sometimes but I don’t feel the need to project that sense of masculinity towards others. I just need a boost to assert myself towards others sometimes because I come off as soft and weak. Until I get angry which is not the answer either like one poster said. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![allenk893](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@allenk893](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/allenk893)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 8:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-sick-of-it-im-about-to-get-a314-and-throw-in-the-towel/37266/8 "2010-03-24T20:28:56Z")
> [@Sillykitty](#): > > What you are getting from being angry and aggessive is not respect. That is fear and anxiety, as you must know. > > You are still very young, and true respect is something that is earned through your behavior and actions over time. Being a nice, somewhat shy guy does not make you weak, and the people who think you are are jerks who don’t know the meaning of the word. Don’t join them, stay yourself, you will come into your own, they will be the losers in the end. > > Believe me, I know. I was moved around a lot, and was always the new kid. As a result, it was hard to make friends. I was shy and smart and nice, and it hurt to be not accepted and part of everyone, especially at that age when popularity and acceptance have such importance placed on them. > > I know exactly how you feel, basically “Fuck them!”. 😠 But don’t lower yourself to their level, always keep that in mind. Their behavior obviously shows that they are creatures of lesser intellect and genetic makeup. My escape was heavy metal, listening to aggressive music helped to relieve some of the aggression I felt, which was very similar to what you are feeling. > > As a result, I became stronger and more independent. I did my own thing, and didn’t follow the herd. I am intelligent, creative, kind and caring, qualities that those others didn’t have. I am beautiful and educated, those people are probably janitors at fast food restaurants, or worse. > > Have you tried Instant Gentleman? It has the respectful qualities of A314, while still allowing you to be the good person that you are, a perfect balance. > > And remember, those losers are not even worth the energy and grief and time you are spending trying to deal with it. Are they thinking about it? Hell no. Don’t waste your energy on them life is too short. Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, hold your head high and remember what qualities really count in a person, and who will really be the winners and losers in the end. Your totally right on that. I don’t even know WHY I care about what others think. I should say screw em’ but sometimes I just…idk. And yeah I definitely get what your saying about my anger. I am not trying to instill fear into people. I hate that and I would hope I’m not. It’s just that my anger seems to be the only form of respect that people respond to where I come from because they love those tough brawny types. After I fight someone and come back to school idk, days later from suspension, I’m getting all this good treatment like I did something right even though I feel like crap for hitting whoever guy I fought. I even want to apologize to him. That’s why I’m complex as hell and I don’t even understand me! ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 8:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-sick-of-it-im-about-to-get-a314-and-throw-in-the-towel/37266/9 "2010-03-24T20:37:13Z")
try to channel all that anger to ur studies, excercise routine, work, etc. It will pay off. People seemed to look down on me when I was younger, like back in high school. Now, I am in much better position than most of them, and they realize it. However, I have better things to do than to get back at these bozos who have nothing better to do except boast about themselves… well, they really don’t have anything to boast about now, so it is all moot point, but… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 8:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-sick-of-it-im-about-to-get-a314-and-throw-in-the-towel/37266/10 "2010-03-24T20:42:51Z")
> [@allenk893](#): > > Your totally right on that. I don’t even know WHY I care about what others think. I should say screw em’ but sometimes I just…idk. And yeah I definitely get what your saying about my anger. I am not trying to instill fear into people. I hate that and I would hope I’m not. It’s just that my anger seems to be the only form of respect that people respond to where I come from because they love those tough brawny types. After I fight someone and come back to school idk, days later from suspension, I’m getting all this good treatment like I did something right even though I feel like crap for hitting whoever guy I fought. I even want to apologize to him. That’s why I’m complex as hell and I don’t even understand me! Its totally normal to care about what others think. I care about what others think too, but sometimes I wish I didn’t. Maybe I am just more sensitive, maybe you are too. Sensitive vs. insensitive, if I have to pick one, I pick sensitive any day. Follow your own heart, do what feels right to you. I like the fact that you feel bad and want to apologize to the guy. That shows me that you care, and that is the kind of person I can respect, over some neanderthal lunkhead. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Rstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/96bed5/32.png) [@Rstar](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rstar)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 9:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-sick-of-it-im-about-to-get-a314-and-throw-in-the-towel/37266/11 "2010-03-24T21:37:03Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > try to channel all that anger to ur studies, excercise routine, work, etc. It will pay off. People seemed to look down on me when I was younger, like back in high school. Now, I am in much better position than most of them, and they realize it. However, I have better things to do than to get back at these bozos who have nothing better to do except boast about themselves… well, they really don’t have anything to boast about now, so it is all moot point, but… 😃 Furthering what coolkat is saying, do you really want the respect and want to be with people that don’t respect people unless they beat some one up? Those are the type of neanderthal beings that I am quite happy to not be with on a Friday, Saturday, etc. night. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 10:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-sick-of-it-im-about-to-get-a314-and-throw-in-the-towel/37266/12 "2010-03-24T22:34:44Z")
Hi Allen. I think A314 **or** IG would be fine for you to use. They are not high anone so you should be fine. You have anger issues so I would steer clear of the high anone products for now. There is something I want to clear up though. A314 gives you the Alpha leader vibe. People tend to misunderstand what the Alpha male is. He is not the mean looking big guy. He is not the rude uncaring guy. He is not the menacing angry guy. He is the trusted leader, the kind nice guy and he becomes the leader not through physical strength but strength of character. He is the guy that doesn’t let what others think get to him. He is confident in who he is so he has nothing to prove. All bullies are Beta Males. A314 will help you convey that vibe but just like with any other [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) mix you have to be congruent with its vibe. If you come across to angry and menacing while wearing people will avoid you. Avoidance is not respect its fear. You do want to smile at people and make eye contact when you use it or they will not respond to you. You mentioned your not shy which is good. Shyer men have trouble with A314. I would also suggest you look into body language. Learn to read it and learn to “speak” it. It will make a big difference in how you interact with others. Its fine to be sensitive to other peoples feelings, this does not make you weak. However to truely find yourself you have to not be sensitive to what they think about you. What people think about you does not define you. What you think defines you. When you focus to much on what people think of you, all that happenes is you lose yourself. > [@](#): > > It’s just that my anger seems to be the only form of respect that people respond to where I come from because they love those tough brawny types. After I fight someone and come back to school idk, days later from suspension, I’m getting all this good treatment like I did something right even though I feel like crap for hitting whoever guy I fought. I even want to apologize to him. That’s why I’m complex as hell and I don’t even understand me! This is not people respecting you. Its people fearing you and its not a positive thing. Sure on the surface they may seem to be giving you better treatment but they are doing it to ensure you dont start shit with them not because they like you. > [@](#): > > That’s why I’m complex as hell and I don’t even understand me! You dont understand you because you looking outside yourself at everyone else to define who you are. You have to look within yourself. How you feel, what you think, what you believe. Once you find that hold it close and stay true to it. That’s when your Alpha will emerge and with it your self worth and confidence. The moment you realize that what people think or say about you does not matter at all anymore and you unleash the power within. (Edit to add) Once you unleash that power people naturally attract to you and you will notice they treat you much differently. 😉 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![reborn\_alchemist93](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reborn_alchemist93/32/2150_2.png) [@reborn\_alchemist93](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/reborn_alchemist93)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 10:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-sick-of-it-im-about-to-get-a314-and-throw-in-the-towel/37266/13 "2010-03-24T22:38:23Z")
> [@allenk893](#): > > Hello everyone. I’m ranting today because I’m fed up with the way my life is currently going and I’m fed up with the disrespect. I’m 17 years old and I’m smart, outgoing, nice, kinda shy, and my own person. I’m a generally good guy. But I don’t get any kind of respect. Ever since I was younger, I’ve been that nice shy new kid that you always see in the movies and stuff? It’s pathetic. People don’t push me around because I don’t let them but I do get disrespect from people thinking that I’m weak. Girls think I’m weak alot. The only time I seem to get any kind of respect is when I am angry. I’m a beast when I’m mad. I rile up, my voice gets deeper, I start yelling and cussing crazy, I get straight up in whoever’s face and I shove them real hard and then start throwing punches. I get really aggressive. But it takes me FOREVER to get to that point. I put with alot before that happens. It shocks people when I get like that and it’s whole story in school when it does. I guess I’m complex like that in the sense that I have two sides. But that’s not even the point. The point is, who I am in daily life, the nice shy guy, is just ruining my life. I’m not even shy! The real person I am inside is a **jerk**. A **critical analytical jerk** off who is depressing and boring. The only reason I put up the nice shy act is because when I used to be myself, people told me I used to look angry and menacing. And my grandma once checked me for staring at her wrong even though I wasn’t. So I decided to change and look more approachable and sociable so I started smiling alot more and acting nice a bit more and I’ve been putting up this act ever since 7th grade. If I was to be myself, nobody would like me at all. So I’m in a bit of dilemma. > > I want to order A314 and throw in the towel and see what happens. It’s not like that alpha male type isn’t apart of me already. Every guy has that side of him. It’s just some guys learn to integrate it more into their personality earlier than others. I’m one of those guys. Not to mention the fact that I’ve been raised around by my single mom and my sister. I will admit I’m not an alpha male upfront but I bring it out when I need to. So it’s not like this will be some “major” change in my personality. I just need to show people that I’m not a punk you can punk around. Respect me for who I am and I will respect you and we’re all good. I don’t need Alpha A314 but I need a boost right about now to drive it out because I sure ain’t in the mood lately to act like something else I’m not. I was just wondering if you guys thought this was a good idea? 😕 A314 is cool and all but I say…embrace your inner jerk lol. Get IJ and see what happens. Ooo sounds rough, do you consider yourself weak honestly? Last year I felt I was screwed around with quite a bit, but after I lost weight this year I got a lot of respect from people. If you want people to get the impression that your a respectable guy that can’t be screwed around with, you could always try and dress sharper, stand tall with better posture, or lift and get stronger. Thats what I did at least this year lol. (Btw the lifting part, Im not a meathead, but losing the fat in my arms from before sure helped lol.) I know how you feel though with the whole nice guy/I’ll take advantage of you/It takes a lot to get me mad before I explode situation. I used to have that somewhat in middle school and first few times in high school. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 11:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-sick-of-it-im-about-to-get-a314-and-throw-in-the-towel/37266/14 "2010-03-24T23:07:23Z")
Just keep in mind that A314 won’t be your only answer and chances are it may not help at all. Thing is, it also has to come from you and have yourself not just rely on A314. It’ll help a bit, but it won’t help much if you don’t act the part. It seems like what you really need besides A314 is a nice balance of your jerk side and your nice shy side. Balance is key, just like it is with [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) along with congruency. ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 5:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-sick-of-it-im-about-to-get-a314-and-throw-in-the-towel/37266/15 "2010-03-25T05:35:52Z")
Stay away from ij. That is not the vibe you are looking for. You need to learn how to be open with in ij while mantaining the vibe or it will work against you. I don’t think you cab do that just yet. I am a huge advocate of martial arts. It’ll help you not only physically but mentally. It incorparates a lot of alpha ideals into you. Remember fighting and hitting doesn’t solve Jack shit. Only time it ever needs to be done is in protection of yourself. If you lose you will actually be seen as weak. If you win you will be feared. You need toearn to diffuse situations with your words. That is the only way to gain respect. A314 cannot do that for you. It can aid u but you do the work. ---
**Author:** ![allenk893](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@allenk893](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/allenk893)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 10:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-sick-of-it-im-about-to-get-a314-and-throw-in-the-towel/37266/16 "2010-03-25T22:42:14Z")
> [@Maidenfan01](#): > > Stay away from ij. That is not the vibe you are looking for. You need to learn how to be open with in ij while mantaining the vibe or it will work against you. I don’t think you cab do that just yet. I am a huge advocate of martial arts. It’ll help you not only physically but mentally. It incorparates a lot of alpha ideals into you. Remember fighting and hitting doesn’t solve Jack shit. Only time it ever needs to be done is in protection of yourself. If you lose you will actually be seen as weak. If you win you will be feared. You need toearn to diffuse situations with your words. That is the only way to gain respect. A314 cannot do that for you. It can aid u but you do the work. Right. And I believe that. I used to take Martial Arts long ago. It’s just that what if that doesn’t work for me? I know how to diffuse an argument or talk my way out of a fight but that was me years ago. After years of not fighting back and getting beat up in elementary and middle school, I have gained an impatience and intolerance for disrespectful and bullying people. Especially guys. Most of the ones I know try to physically and mentally dominate other guys just because. And that doesn’t work for me and I get fed up with it. I know how I described myself doesn’t look like I have self control but I do. It takes me ALOT to get to that high anger point. It’s calling me out or acting like your trying to jump (fight) that gets me riled up. :o ---
**Author:** ![allenk893](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@allenk893](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/allenk893)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 10:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-sick-of-it-im-about-to-get-a314-and-throw-in-the-towel/37266/17 "2010-03-25T22:50:58Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > Just keep in mind that A314 won’t be your only answer and chances are it may not help at all. Thing is, it also has to come from you and have yourself not just rely on A314. It’ll help a bit, but it won’t help much if you don’t act the part. It seems like what you really need besides A314 is a nice balance of your jerk side and your nice shy side. Balance is key, just like it is with pheromones along with congruency. I really do need that equal balance. I feel like an equilibrium between my nice side and my jerk side is my true personality. But like I said before, I DO have it inside myself. I really don’t need A314. Not only do I know I am Alpha, I can impersonate it as well. I took theater arts for many years. Lol. Probably not a good point. But anyway it’s the feeling like, I know I can lead, but I’m really not in the mood to or have the willpower to keep up. All these years I’ve been just fine being my own person. Not trying to win the most baskets or be the frontman in football or trying to be “that guy” in school that all the guys aspire to be like or the girls fawn over. It’s so cliche. I’ve just taken a backseat on the sidelines and enjoyed other people’s success. Now I’m sick of it. I’ve been working out, been more assertive if you will, been trying to increase as much testosterone as I can. I don’t know, I’m just trying to change it up here. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![allenk893](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@allenk893](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/allenk893)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 10:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-sick-of-it-im-about-to-get-a314-and-throw-in-the-towel/37266/18 "2010-03-25T22:53:49Z")
> [@reborn\_alchemist93](#): > > A314 is cool and all but I say…embrace your inner jerk lol. Get IJ and see what happens. Ooo sounds rough, do you consider yourself weak honestly? > Last year I felt I was screwed around with quite a bit, but after I lost weight this year I got a lot of respect from people. If you want people to get the impression that your a respectable guy that can’t be screwed around with, you could always try and dress sharper, stand tall with better posture, or lift and get stronger. Thats what I did at least this year lol. (Btw the lifting part, Im not a meathead, but losing the fat in my arms from before sure helped lol.) I know how you feel though with the whole nice guy/I’ll take advantage of you/It takes a lot to get me mad before I explode situation. I used to have that somewhat in middle school and first few times in high school. I really should right?! I was actually thinking about that the other day. Jerks make women go wild. For some strange reason, it seems females can’t get over a guy that has a sh\*tty attitude towards them. I don’t understand it but it’s been on my mind for awhile. I was thinking one day I should just decide to be mean to everybody I know. Not mean-mean as in the kind where I can get my ass kicked. But mean as in I’m gonna tell you what’s up and I really don’t give a crap what you have to say. Sounds good to me. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 11:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-sick-of-it-im-about-to-get-a314-and-throw-in-the-towel/37266/19 "2010-03-25T23:03:40Z")
> [@allenk893](#): > > I really should right?! I was actually thinking about that the other day. Jerks make women go wild. For some strange reason, it seems females can’t get over a guy that has a sh\*tty attitude towards them. I don’t understand it but it’s been on my mind for awhile. I was thinking one day I should just decide to be mean to everybody I know. Not mean-mean as in the kind where I can get my ass kicked. But mean as in I’m gonna tell you what’s up and I really don’t give a crap what you have to say. Sounds good to me. 😃 No way, been there done that. Jerks may “seem” hot for awhile, but then they continue to treat women like shit, which eventually breaks their hearts and causes extreme hurt. I’ll take a guy who treats me well any day! ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 12:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-sick-of-it-im-about-to-get-a314-and-throw-in-the-towel/37266/20 "2010-03-26T00:31:58Z")
> [@allenk893](#): > > been trying to increase as much testosterone as I can. I don’t know, I’m just trying to change it up here. 🙂 I doubt more testosterone is what you need. It’ll just make you more angry than you already seem to be, and it seems like you don’t have a problem setting up your boundaries so why the extra testosterone? Being “Alpha” is not really about which male produces the most testosterone, but it’s more about the one who is more humble while setting up boundaries and being able to put his foot down when need be while doing it all in a cool and collective manner. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-sick-of-it-im-about-to-get-a314-and-throw-in-the-towel/37266.md?page=2)