# Immune to IS self effects **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 11, 2012, 6:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/immune-to-is-self-effects/57542 "2012-12-11T18:37:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Adam77](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/adam77/32/980_2.png) [@Adam77](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Adam77)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2012, 6:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/immune-to-is-self-effects/57542/1 "2012-12-11T18:37:23Z")
Hey everyone! I used to really enjoy the self effects from IS, but it seems I have become immune to them. Is that a common occurrence over time with all mones? Are they are other socials that will give you similar self effects? ---
**Author:** ![SomeoneOrNot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/someoneornot/32/205_2.png) [@SomeoneOrNot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SomeoneOrNot)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2012, 9:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/immune-to-is-self-effects/57542/2 "2012-12-11T21:54:07Z")
I find it’s something that happens with me, but I use IS nearly every day and have for several months now. I suspect if I put them all away in my little safe, and came back after a month or two, I’d get self effects again. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2012, 11:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/immune-to-is-self-effects/57542/3 "2012-12-11T23:55:48Z")
If I take a break by using mones once or twice a week, IS being no different I get the self effects. And thats off 2 sprays. You see you become desensitized to anything you get too much off, be it steak or IS… take a break from mones and use them less frequently: #1 you’ll be wasting less product #2 You’ll benefit more from self effects #3 You’ll learn noto RELY on them for your success. Good luck ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 2:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/immune-to-is-self-effects/57542/4 "2012-12-12T02:45:39Z")
> [@Adam77](#): > > Hey everyone! > > I used to really enjoy the self effects from IS, but it seems I have become immune to them. Is that a common occurrence over time with all mones? > > Are they are other socials that will give you similar self effects? IME, IS is the mone whose self effects you do get used to fastest, sometimes very fast if you use it regularly. Other mones, yes you get used to them too and some like Androstenone or Androsterone take a lot longer. The nearest thing I’ve found to IS is a hefty dose of Allphanol or IO but although bright/chatty and bubbly, it is not quite the same lift that IS/TAA can give. I also find self effects highly variable at best, so I must say I try to avoid using them for that purpose, if I’m getting positives from those exposed to me, all is good- Instead, I’l view any self effect as a positive bonus. ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 4:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/immune-to-is-self-effects/57542/5 "2012-12-12T04:21:25Z")
" Just don’t habituate. When you use pheromones an over the top effect _on you_, don’t use them everday. It’s like coffee – some of the main, deep effects will still be there, but you’ll get the “wow” mostly when used infrequently." > [@TAA/Instant Shine](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-instant-shine/233/11): > > Just don’t habituate. When you use [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) an over the top effect on you, don’t use them everday. It’s like coffee – some of the main, deep effects will still be there, but you’ll get the “wow” mostly when used infrequently. Thankfully, we have a huge cast of pheromonal characters, so you can cycle through different ones. Your effects with TAF today won’t harm your effects with Shine tommorow. That’s quite unlike using “different kinds” of coffee, which all center around caffeine and natur… I try to limit my use of 3+ [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) sprays. I would not use it in that amount daily. However, I use Shine frequently. My 30 mL will hopefully be here shortly along with my putatives–for the usual holiday “mayhem.” > [@mobocaster](#): > > The nearest thing I’ve found to IS is a hefty dose of Allphanol or IO but although bright/chatty and bubbly, it is not quite the same lift that IS/TAA can give. > I also find self effects highly variable at best, so I must say I try to avoid using them for that purpose, if I’m getting positives from those exposed to me, all is good- Instead, I’l view any self effect as a positive bonus. Someone asked about the cost benefit of IO or ANOL. Both the TAA and ANOL in IShine and IO offer a nice social and self buzz in amounts above 3 sprays. Since the TAA and ANOL are two different molecules, there is the potential to rotate them for social buffering. You can use the ExperiMone ANOL (if the 30 mL of IO is out of the budget) to try to duplicate old school party mixes using Spaceland, e.g. the P83 + high ANOL “hot tub” mix.