# Important post on how to get hot hot women

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/important-post-on-how-to-get-hot-hot-women/23521>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [December 2, 2008, 12:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/important-post-on-how-to-get-hot-hot-women/23521 "2008-12-02T12:37:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 4:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/important-post-on-how-to-get-hot-hot-women/23521/61 "2008-12-12T04:01:54Z")

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> [@kingy](#):
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> I’m sure social proofing is a unique and new idea that you came up with mark 🙂
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> once again i have actually walked the path and have now dated models, singers, strippers and came from a place where i would sweat and turn bright red just talking to grandma.
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> i believe in action and field testing rather than hypothosing, if you actually just implement only what is in this post then you will get hot women in your life adventually. there really is no doubt or question, you will get it.

I never said that I invented social proofing! I said that goes a long way in meeting and dating hot women!

As far as strippers go, lets see, I’ve slept with probably 20 or more, not including the one that I married!

So Mr. PUA, you wanna go head to head as to who can get more women, you got a challange, and from an old dude nearly twice your age!

You got a lot of talk, but that’s all I’ve seen from you. I’ve got at least 35 pages of exploits in my journal. And, as Steve said, I’m pretty much the anti-pua!

> [@Robbie](#):
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> What REALLY grinds me though, is when somebody titles a thread “Important post on how to get hot hot women,” it better frikken deliver the goods. Reading kingy’s points, I cannot for the life of me imagine who would pay for what he’s saying. Every insight is either common sense or been covered by much better authors with logical detail.  
> By the way, picking up a “hot” stripper, not my idea of Game (the dorkiest guy who’s never heard of David D. with enough Benjamins can pick up “hot” strippers.) That’s like bragging about how attractive your _rental car_ is. Nobody cares but you.
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> Normally, I’m not into slamming people like this, but if I want to be lectured to, I want it to be by somebody with _some_ credibility (and by that, I mean credibility that’s NOT in just your own mind)
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> You’re so good at throwing out challenges, want one of your own, kingy? Try not to post again until you can tell us your experiences picking up hot hot women using pheromones

And again, I couldn’t agree more. I opened the thread expecting to find something of value, and instead it came across more like a lecture from someone talking about a subject they knew little about, but wanting to convince everyone that they’re an expert.

I’d be happy to see something from kingy just showing that he actually has picked up women, and in real life, not just in his mind, whether or not pheros had anything to do with it.

> [@kingy](#):
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> lol oh dear,
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> your right im a big fake and enjoy picking up your hot strippers man, tell me have you actually done it?
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> p.s. it sounds like you pay a lot of money on pu coaching steve, save your money man its not worth it

As I said at the top of the post, yeah I’ve picked up strippers, had a couple of em thinking that they were living with me and even married one. WHAT ABOUT YOU?

And by the way, Steve didn’t pay a penny for PUA training or to hang out with the gurus he mentioned.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 7:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/important-post-on-how-to-get-hot-hot-women/23521/62 "2008-12-12T07:41:53Z")

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> [@kingy](#):
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> lol oh dear,
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> your right im a big fake and enjoy picking up your hot strippers man, tell me have you actually done it?
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> please move this to the correct board i did not know where to post my first post so cut me some slack
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> Steve did i say peacocking was the only way of standing out? you have just gone on a rant for no reason at all.
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> what is the matter with you guys, if you dont wanna read the post then dont, if you get value from it great, if its in the wrong section ask admin to move it cos it bothers you that much.
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> p.s. it sounds like you pay a lot of money on pu coaching steve, save your money man its not worth it

Kingy, I don’t spend any money on PUA coaching, boot-camps, or anything else. I did originally, a long time ago, buy David D and Mystery ebooks, but the buck (;)pun intended) stopped there.

It’s all good! I spend a lot of time with the Gurus I mentioned, but not everybody is as fortunate as I am. On a side note: Last month when I was in San Diego, I met this girl who told me to go to Rehab at the Hard Rock. The place was amazing and I ran into a friend, Neil Straus, the guy who wrote that book “The Game.” We’re at rehab and he mentions that the baretnder is super-hot. When she sees me she gets a huge smile and says to me that she was sorry she had to leave so early, but didn’t want to wake me. Neil looks over at me and says, have you been in rehab long? I never remember much about what happens at rehab, but I always end up with someone elses sandals.

Oh yeah, back to my suggestions about peacocking. I didn’t see it as a rant at all. I wanted to add my point and as such I always feel if you have something to say you should say it. With that in mind, I’m not really sure how you came to the conclusion that was a rant, rather than a line of communication I was making an effort to get you, and others involved in. I am sorry that you did not see it that way.

On the other hand “I am” the admin of the site and there is no need to change the venue of this thread. I can understand the amazing loyalty to the forum the members have and their interest in protecting the value of such, but I like controversy. Who wants to live in a world where everything is wonderfull. Contrast is good for the soul. 😛 Without contrast we really wouldn’t have anything to base our likes and dislikes on. Not to mention, with some more feedback and other ideas, picking up “hot women” whether they are strippers or models is the goal of many men on this forum. In essence (lol another pun) pheromone usage is another forn of peackocking.

Personally I think your posts would garner more merit if they were based more on teaching, rather than short challenges without dialogue on why and how to do something. Challenges get people out of their boxes and pushing their limits which is good. However, why not explain what the concept is first, how it works, why it works, how to use it and then offer a challenge.

It’s like me saying hey everybody, go to a club, peacock yourself with a satin purple shirt and leopard skin pants and soround yourself with hot women. I challenge you and unless you’ve done it don’t argue!

It doesn’t work! To me there is no value and therefore its not a valid challenge. Anyone can tell someone to go do something, but teaching them why and how and then marveling in their developmnet, now that’s the real challenge. Maybe it’s me, but I like when I leave others with more value than when I meet them.

With that in mind, keep posting, but I have my own challenge for you. If you are going to suggest something you could at least explain the concept behind it and add a personal example of success (you know, a DHV story). You see, the theory behind PUA is so much more valid in everyday personal develpment than just pick-up itself. Teaching others is a admirable path to choose, but in doing so it comes with great responsibillity. Just remember that most members on this forum know very little about seduction because this is, after all, a pheromone forum.

Shit-Tests always amaze me just how easy it is to ensnare reactive people. Every time I ever fall for one, it is always a valuable lesson. More often than not, it is a wake up call, to come down off my mountain of self-worth and realize, there’s always another opportunity for growth through knowledge. If these posts piss you off, or make you angry, you are being reactive. You’ve failed the shit-test!

> [@dapg01](#):
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> Well I thougt I would give a small opinion even tough I’m by no means an expert in game. I am rather the typical young guy that got fascinated by the game a few years back when I read “The Game” I know, I know, I’m not one of the originals, but you can’t blame me for liking that book, I love good literature, but all the credit to Neil Strauss, his book is great and really entertaining!

Don’t knock yourself my friend. Your opinion is not small at all. You offer value and speak from truth and that is that is never small. Style is also not the original PUA, nor is Mystery, or anyone else in that book. David D followed Ross Jeffries, who followed someone before him, who followed Don Juan, who followed Jesus, who all followed Captain CaveMan (the original PUA)

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/8/8c3ad44fbf3f3ea2a1536679c0376ee138302db0.jpeg "Captain Caveman Intro") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD36ZhpHPpE)

Your 100% right on about finding what works for you. It takes mad field work. Anyone can tell you to do something and make incredibly valid points on how and why it works for them, but only you will know if it works for you. Its very important to push your comfort levels and get outside your box. A little uncomfortable is OK as long as you can use it, then in which case, its no longer uncomfortable. Its an oxymoron at its core!

This past summer, I got to talking with Kevin Feng for a while This was before PUA season two aired so I couldn’t tell anyone anything about it, but he is such a laid back down to earth guy. I mean you couldn’t pick him out of any crowd, except BANG! His personality will blow you away. This guy doesn’t need props, this guy is just himself, but that is what is so cool. He is all pasion!

I’ll get into it a little more another time. I can see its already almost 2:00 a.m. and I have a friend that just got back from school tonight. I miss her and really want to go see her, so next time.

> [@dapg01](#):
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> ps. holy crap steve o how did you get to meet all those guys? Next time you’re in philly you’ll have to show me some skills!

In time this will all be revealed. Yeah I will look you up in Philly next time I’m there. Unless of course Bella has me handcuffed again 😉

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**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 10:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/important-post-on-how-to-get-hot-hot-women/23521/63 "2008-12-12T10:07:17Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> _ **Yeah I will look you up in Philly next time I’m there.** _
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> _ **Unless of course Bella has me handcuffed again 😉** _

You loved it.

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**Author:** ![kingy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kingy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kingy)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 12:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/important-post-on-how-to-get-hot-hot-women/23521/64 "2008-12-12T12:46:45Z")

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lol

thats a bit wierd but sure i like a challenge come down to london and we can have a friendly little competition, that is unless you have some excuse?

if you dont like the post then dont keep bumping my thread, why waste your time im confused.

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**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 1:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/important-post-on-how-to-get-hot-hot-women/23521/65 "2008-12-12T13:43:29Z")

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> [@kingy](#):
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> lol  
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> if you dont like the post then dont keep bumping my thread, why waste your time im confused.

Finally, some good advice!

Or, if we can’t exercise enough self-restraint to not respond to trolls (as this post of mine does) perhaps the mods can do us a favor and just lock the thing down.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 5:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/important-post-on-how-to-get-hot-hot-women/23521/66 "2008-12-12T17:49:56Z")

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> [@kingy](#):
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> lol
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> thats a bit wierd but sure i like a challenge come down to london and we can have a friendly little competition, that is unless you have some excuse?
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> if you dont like the post then dont keep bumping my thread, why waste your time im confused.

You’re confused because you’re just not getting the point. For someone who claims to be a PUA instructor, you’re very reactive.

Oh and when I do go to the UK I’ll be hanging with Gem and PheroQuirk. I don’t do pick-up as a cock-fight, I do it because I love women and respect them enough to want to share a piece of my awesome self with them.

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**Author:** ![dapg01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b3f665/32.png) [@dapg01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dapg01)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 7:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/important-post-on-how-to-get-hot-hot-women/23521/67 "2008-12-12T19:36:22Z")

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Lol, steve, if Bella has you in handcuffs, I will definitely understand!

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**Author:** ![SyraBrian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@SyraBrian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SyraBrian)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2008, 6:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/important-post-on-how-to-get-hot-hot-women/23521/68 "2008-12-13T18:47:32Z")

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I read somewhere that the best way to talk to beautiful young women is to get them involved in discussions about former PBS kiddie show host Mister Rogers. Evidently, the mere memory of Mister Rogers invokes in women the kind of warm, gooey feelings that PUAs look to capitalize on. Plus, there’s that whole subtext of the little choo-choo train going through the tunnel and out into the imaginary world of make-believe.

Works especially well with the girls who yearn for a father figure.

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**Author:** ![chads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@chads](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chads)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2008, 9:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/important-post-on-how-to-get-hot-hot-women/23521/69 "2008-12-13T21:42:31Z")

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Are you the same Kingy that used to post on Gem’s AI site?

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