# Important Survey: What do YOU really want? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 31, 2006, 12:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/important-survey-what-do-you-really-want/113 "2006-01-31T00:49:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2006, 12:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/important-survey-what-do-you-really-want/113/1 "2006-01-31T00:49:01Z")
Imagine that perfect [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/) or system of products existed. What would it do? What pain in your life would it remove, and how would it work? Spill the beans, and let me know exactly what you want, in as much detail as you care to give. This is a great time to be heard. As we ready our next cycle of products, your wishes are our commands. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2006, 1:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/important-survey-what-do-you-really-want/113/2 "2006-01-31T01:21:56Z")
iā€™d be very interested in a summer after tanning type lotion that combines aloe with various [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/). not sure if they can/will combine well, but a smooooth smelling beach style lotion with nol/rone would kick major ass if it was possible. ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2006, 2:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/important-survey-what-do-you-really-want/113/3 "2006-01-31T02:30:07Z")
Products targeted to my age (50+) and body chemistry - perhaps semi custom mixes/kits. Something that contains a product for different situations I would probably encounter during a day/week. Say, a ā€œbaseā€ product for ā€œeverydayā€ nothing special (like foundation makeup). An additive or another product for say ā€œat workā€ use (mood lifter, office politics/social grease, keeps the boss happy). One for general social use (out with the boys, friends/aquianances). One for ā€œnothing seriousā€ date use (calming, fun inducing, for those special close friends) One for ā€œgetting nookieā€ And of course something that _works_, with some degree of consistencey. And simple. Grab nā€™ go. ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2006, 2:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/important-survey-what-do-you-really-want/113/4 "2006-01-31T02:40:49Z")
Warm, increase rapport, raise confidence but thatā€™s meā€¦ Iā€™m not looking to get laidā€¦ something that appeals to both men and women, complex, velvety, deep earthy energies, like if Serge Lutens did [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/)ā€¦ inspires tales of days gone by told on the porchā€¦ respectful, curious, hypnoticā€¦ (TAC now comes the closest to this as a pure element) A314 taken to another level, quietly sexy, suggestive,ā€¦ the scent of roots, clay, the gothic cathederal in Barcelona during mass, lengthy mysterious orgasms, animal perceptionsā€¦ like A314 + high concentaration TAC + TAL + castoreum + je ne sais quoi šŸ˜• ---
**Author:** ![Pongo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Pongo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pongo)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2006, 12:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/important-survey-what-do-you-really-want/113/5 "2006-01-31T12:03:20Z")
First off,ā€¦ Hello everybody šŸ˜ƒ This is my first post here so Ill lay down some background info about myself. Iā€™m a 35 year old overweight white dude living in the midwest -ha ha, wow do I sound exciting or what?- I have been using pheromones since about 1990, I didnt see any luck with them until I started using APC - I think that was the first real product I got ahold of - the rest were really low content or nothing at all I presume. Aaanywho I have been buying and using some of the more trusted pheromones and getting great results with them ~ I come into contact with several females everyday at my job so I got back into pheros to see if they might help make em twitch a bit - sure enough they help by a good measure. \>\>\> What do YOU really want? Pheromones are doing what I want right now - they get females in the mood to be playful and they create sexual agression in some of them,ā€¦ For the moment I really enjoy just playing with them so to speek and bringing some of them back to the crib is nice too - I think this will help me find a quality girl to stick with when Iā€™m ready, Iā€™m interested in the effects of A1 for ā€œspeacial targetsā€ I just got my A1 today from Adrotics Research and I must say everything about it seems premium (fast shipping, great atomizer, and the product is the real deal) it smells quite a bit like TE to me. I want to come up with a mix of -none -nol and a1 that works well - something like pheromax but maybe with more -none, anyway those are my thoughts for now - I like to flirt hard core even if there is no sexual intent there, laughing with a cutie makes my day for sure thats why I ordered spaceland (I plan on abusing this product) šŸ˜ƒ How much A1 should I start with @ 10mcg/spray? ---
**Author:** ![Rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Rob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rob)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 1:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/important-survey-what-do-you-really-want/113/6 "2006-02-01T01:39:30Z")
Well you already have IFM out for the sexual excitement, IS and IO as the social mones as well as A314. Cannot really say what you have not come out yet for different situationsā€¦ though I can say if you do come out with something new Iā€™d like to hear.. and if there is nothing new, improving on what you already have is always great too. Iā€™m all for the sexual and exciting pheremones. ---
**Author:** ![TaoistBiker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/taoistbiker/32/1117_2.png) [@TaoistBiker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TaoistBiker)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 2:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/important-survey-what-do-you-really-want/113/7 "2006-02-01T14:52:26Z")
First time poster; experienced pheromone user. > [@MHarris](#): > > Imagine that perfect pheromone product or system of products existed. What would it do? IMO you are on a great track with the products that you have - a ā€œbasic wardrobeā€ for daily use (maybe targeted for a certain age bracket/end goal) with ways to ā€œaccessorizeā€ it to modify the effect. When I first started with pheromones I wasnā€™t finding what I wanted and ended up with different mixes of SOE/A1/b-NOL/PI/NPA that I would layer on either Perception or AE. The mixes were targeted for things like ā€œsocialā€, ā€œsexualā€, ā€œStress/PMS Antidoteā€, ā€œbusiness lightā€, ā€œthe closerā€ - it took effort to get to what would work for me. > [@MHarris](#): > > What pain in your life would it remove, and how would it work? This provokes a comment based on my observations: pheromones seem to be even more "wardrobe like " than colognes. There seem to be congruency issues that crop up based on age/goal/dress. You have to walk the walk and talk the talk to get consistent results. For me, A314 has become the ā€œbase of choiceā€ for daily wear and I accessorize it. I can get away with a fair amount of -none, but I also donā€™t need it. Of late, I am ā€œexperimoningā€. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 3:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/important-survey-what-do-you-really-want/113/8 "2006-02-01T15:18:20Z")
> [@TaoistBiker](#): > > For me, A314 has become the ā€œbase of choiceā€ for daily wear and I accessorize it. I can get away with a fair amount of -none, but I also donā€™t need it. Of late, I am ā€œexperimoningā€. šŸ™‚ pretty much sums up my circumstances. i have a tray full of probably 20+ different synthetic [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) from at least 4-5 different manufacturers and A314 is the one bottle that i reach for on a daily basis without any concern for OD or gender issues. it is very easy to add a spray of IFM to my hair and IS to my chest/neck without any other negative consequences as well. i forgot to add massage oils to my first post. ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 6:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/important-survey-what-do-you-really-want/113/9 "2006-02-01T18:40:22Z")
Thanks for all the great comments so far! And welcome to Pongo and Taoist Biker. **Pongo** , I donā€™t want to turn this into a dienone thread, butā€¦ even 10mcg will have a good effect on women around you. Down there, youā€™ll see more acceptance and relaxation. Over 40 seems good for stimulation, but, I havenā€™t done any paid research on this molecule since itā€™s not the easiest part of the pallette to use due to legal restrictions. Some people like up to 90mcg (except tacitus, whoā€™d probably recommend 900 šŸ™‚). Hopefully we can all collectively more accurate numbers of dienone now that itā€™s in the dosed ExperiMone format. **Everyone** , Iā€™m doing sort of exercise in ā€œproduct darwinismā€ hereā€¦ where Iā€™d like to introduce exactly what youā€™re looking for, with all of the features and benefits that matter most to you. Iā€™m not so much concerned with what weā€™ve already done, as much as Iā€™m concerned with what makes sense to _you_, what helps _you_, and what reduces any pain in your life, regardless of our current way of thinking. Iā€™m not attached to products or ideas as much as Iā€™m attached to giving you the best possible solutions. If you could put out of your mind for a moment ā€œwhat we already haveā€ and just let your mind run wild and imagine exactly what [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) would exist for you in a perfect world, thatā€™s where a lot of growth will take place. Whatā€™s obvious to you might not be obvious to us. Again, I like the responses so far, and appreciate them all. The more you can tell us what the ā€œpheromones of your dreams areā€, the better we can make 'em. In fact, I look forward to it. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 7:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/important-survey-what-do-you-really-want/113/10 "2006-02-01T19:27:13Z")
Iā€™ve been ā€œback burneringā€ this question for a while now after my initial post and I am still thinking strongly that products aimed at certain age-ranges would be wonderful. (Over 50 y/o for example, hint hint) IMO things like body chemistry and ā€œintentā€ (your goals) change over time, and those ā€œone-size-fits-allā€ or those products that seem to be made and marketed for/to the under 25 crowd just donā€™t do what I want or need them to do. ---
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 7:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/important-survey-what-do-you-really-want/113/11 "2006-02-01T19:49:17Z")
> [@Rbt](#): > > Iā€™ve been ā€œback burneringā€ this question for a while now after my initial post and I am still thinking strongly that products aimed at certain age-ranges would be wonderful. (Over 50 y/o for example, hint hint) they already make porsches and viagra for you old guys, now you want a specific [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/) too šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 8:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/important-survey-what-do-you-really-want/113/12 "2006-02-01T20:13:54Z")
A good fixative for moderate to slow release ? among other things Iā€™ve noticed.. purchased a bottle of Serge Lutens _Ambre Sultan_ā€¦ now thanks to EU rules and regs we get a complete breakdown of the real ingredients, rather than the suggestive of, reminiscent ofā€¦ basically, I was put off by this liquid at first, as it is marketed as a super-premium menā€™s fragranceā€¦ as it smells like a sophisticated air freshener or as one woman said, ā€œyou smell like a candleā€ā€¦ a complex mix of fruity, ambery, and cinnamon family aromae, no great shock as the ingredients included many cinnamyl- esters and benzyl- estersā€¦ although it did seem also to exhibit some subtle pheromone-analog like actions, people warmed up and loosened up some a bit differently that I am used toā€¦ maybe the hippies back in the 60ā€™ and 70ā€™s were on to something with the erotic effects of these warm ā€œlove templeā€ scents, a little like patchouli, nag champa, pot pourri.. I wouldnā€™t ant to put too much of this on during the day, I would smell like a Christmas party with mulled wineā€¦ possibly, do these higher molecular weight esters act as either a fixative or synergist with normal [human pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) or experimones ? Maybe there are other things in the ester family that are -mone potentiating ? ---
**Author:** ![Aurelie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aurelie/32/1914_2.png) [@Aurelie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aurelie)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 10:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/important-survey-what-do-you-really-want/113/13 "2006-02-01T22:13:20Z")
> [@Rbt](#): > > Products targeted to my age (50+) and body chemistry - perhaps semi custom mixes/kits. > > Something that contains a product for different situations I would probably encounter during a day/week. > > Say, a ā€œbaseā€ product for ā€œeverydayā€ nothing special (like foundation makeup). > An additive or another product for say ā€œat workā€ use (mood lifter, office politics/social grease, keeps the boss happy). > One for general social use (out with the boys, friends/aquianances). > One for ā€œnothing seriousā€ date use (calming, fun inducing, for those special close friends) > One for ā€œgetting nookieā€ > > And of course something that _works_, with some degree of consistencey. And simple. Grab nā€™ go. Alright, just brainstorming hereā€¦ I like Rbtā€™s idea. 1. Products specifically designed for a specific situation: - Social with friends - Professional respect - Emotional/bonding enhancer - Sexual enhancer 1. These products could be available in say 2 or 3 versions. Some of them would be modified based upon age. Others would be modified based upon metabolism (blood type? Or personality type? As in A-personality versus a more laid-back personality?) An A-type personality for instance would require a different professional mix than a B-personality. For instance: - I can see the emotional enhancer being modified based upon age. Orā€¦ based upon age of target? - The sexual enhancer modified based upon metabolism? To be honest I still have serious reservations about this entire none thing. Some guys might be able to pull it off, but many cannot. And I think that is unrelated to age. Man, if my guy ever added none to his natural signature, heā€™d get fired and I would probably strangle him! Well let me ponder it some moreā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 10:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/important-survey-what-do-you-really-want/113/14 "2006-02-01T22:18:38Z")
> [@josef](#): > > they already make porsches and viagra for you old guys, now you want a specific pheromone product too šŸ˜‰ Hey! Viagra! We donā€™t need no stinkinā€™ Viagra! šŸ˜® (Need those [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) to have the chance to find outā€¦) šŸ˜‰ (And if I did need the big V do you think Iā€™d admit it??? HA!) šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Aurelie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aurelie/32/1914_2.png) [@Aurelie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aurelie)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 10:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/important-survey-what-do-you-really-want/113/15 "2006-02-01T22:22:50Z")
> [@Rbt](#): > > Hey! Viagra! We donā€™t need no stinkinā€™ Viagra! > šŸ˜® > > (Need those pheromone products to have the chance to find outā€¦) > šŸ˜‰ > > (And if I did need the big V do you think Iā€™d admit it??? HA!) > šŸ˜ƒ Oh (for some reason) that reminds meā€¦ Yes, a nice smelling massage lotion with the right concentration of pheromones would be nice. I know we could mix our own, but for those of us that are mathematically challenged, itā€™s a bit difficult to figure out how much or how little to put in it. Or two massage oilsā€¦ - One calm, relaxing, conversation and bonding promoting one. - The other hot and sexy! Orā€¦ how about a pheromone recipe book? Based on the stand-alone pheromones available here? ---
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 1:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/important-survey-what-do-you-really-want/113/16 "2006-02-02T01:41:49Z")
> [@Rbt](#): > > Hey! Viagra! We donā€™t need no stinkinā€™ Viagra! > šŸ˜® > > (Need those pheromone products to have the chance to find outā€¦) > šŸ˜‰ > > (And if I did need the big V do you think Iā€™d admit it??? HA!) > šŸ˜ƒ lol itā€™s all good man. šŸ™‚ \*\* \*\* _weā€™re all going to be old sometime šŸ˜ƒ_ ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 1:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/important-survey-what-do-you-really-want/113/17 "2006-02-02T01:56:03Z")
> [@josef](#): > > _weā€™re all going to be old sometime šŸ˜ƒ_ Speak for yourself. Thinking of changing my name to Peter Pan. šŸ˜› (To me age is more a factor of the mind than the body.) ---
**Author:** ![Pongo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Pongo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pongo)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 9:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/important-survey-what-do-you-really-want/113/18 "2006-02-02T09:09:57Z")
A perfect [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/) would smell great (Like APC) as far as what I want it to do - first I would like it to make her drop her guard (make her trust me), second I would like it to make her happy, third I would like it to make her want sex (with me), beyond that,ā€¦ 1 application per day instead of a ā€œboosterā€ 3 or 4 hrs later and a good value. Once you get this done could you not tell anyone but me? šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 3:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/important-survey-what-do-you-really-want/113/19 "2006-02-02T15:39:41Z")
> [@Pongo](#): > > A perfect pheromone product would smell great (Like APC) as far as what I want it to do - first I would like it to make her drop her guard (make her trust me), second I would like it to make her happy, third I would like it to make her want sex (with me), beyond that,ā€¦ 1 application per day instead of a ā€œboosterā€ 3 or 4 hrs later and a good value. > > Once you get this done could you not tell anyone but me? šŸ™‚ A built-in scent may be okay, but having the product come in either a variety of fragrances, or with no added fragrance might be nice (so one could easily use their a favorite cologne, or more importantly, the favorite cologne your intended target(s) happen to likeā€¦). I echo the idea of having a long-lasting ā€œonce a dayā€ type application. Having to ā€œrenew/refreshā€ can be a real hassle. A ā€œtime-releaseā€ formula, or a formulation that ā€œbreaks downā€ smoothly for example. And will you tell me too? (pongo, you greedy b youā€¦ nyahhh. šŸ˜› ) (As if _Iā€™d_ wanna shareā€¦šŸ™„ ) Custom or ā€œtargetedā€ mixes might be the way to go. Like the way shampoos come in ā€œdry, normal, oilyā€ types. ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 7:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/important-survey-what-do-you-really-want/113/20 "2006-02-02T19:00:29Z")
A combonation product of (Anone, Anol, and TAA) in a balance ratio with a more sexual side to it. 4mcg Anone, 2mcg Anol, and TAA per drop. I donā€™t know much about the dosage of TAA. This Combo product would be great to add with A314 or as a standalone. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/important-survey-what-do-you-really-want/113.md?page=2)