# In case your head wasn't spinning the first time **URL:** \ **Category:** Pheromone Theory & Molecules\ **Created:** [November 21, 2007, 9:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/in-case-your-head-wasnt-spinning-the-first-time/6809 "2007-11-21T09:05:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![zedster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zedster/32/1715_2.png) [@zedster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zedster)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 9:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/in-case-your-head-wasnt-spinning-the-first-time/6809/1 "2007-11-21T09:05:54Z")
There has been a few posts in the past about the effects of pheros on gays and lesbians. Obviously that’s a less explored subject than pheros on straight people. But I’m assuming in such cases it was focusing on cisgendered people–people who were born with their current sex/gender. In case that wasn’t confusing enough, here’s another: does anyone know of, or has had experience with pheros and transgendered people? And what about gay/lesbian trans: e.g., lesbian MTFs (Mate-to-Female): born male, transitioned to female, and likes other females. One might guess that this person would have the same response to pheros as a straight (cisgendered) male–or would it be more like a lesbian woman? Let’s assume that this person is using female hormone therapy. Should I make it even more confusing by adding bisexual folks in the mix? Cis or trans? Huh? Does your head hurt now?😛 (Here’s hoping to rep points! 😃) ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2007, 12:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/in-case-your-head-wasnt-spinning-the-first-time/6809/2 "2007-11-24T00:17:26Z")
Head doesn’t hurt, but definitely want to stay away from the places you’ve been hanging out. Sounds to me like a straight guy or girl wouldn’t stand a chance in hell. 😕 😮 😕 And, ok I’ll rep you for an interesting post. ---
**Author:** ![zedster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zedster/32/1715_2.png) [@zedster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zedster)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2007, 8:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/in-case-your-head-wasnt-spinning-the-first-time/6809/3 "2007-11-24T08:34:53Z")
> [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > Head doesn’t hurt, but definitely want to stay away from the places you’ve been hanging out. Sounds to me like a straight guy or girl wouldn’t stand a chance in hell. 😕 😮 😕 > > And, ok I’ll rep you for an interesting post. Ha ha, the Bay ain’t so bad 🙂 I think people around here tend to be more **aware** that there are people who aren’t the traditional straight male/female, and they in turn are less afraid (in theory, at least) of hostility or violence towards them and can be themselves. So don’t worry–straight people are doing JUST FINE. It gets me wondering, though, that most, if not all of the small but growing info on pheros will likely mean nothing to someone like I earlier described. Hmm 😕 And…THANKS for the rep! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2007, 2:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/in-case-your-head-wasnt-spinning-the-first-time/6809/4 "2007-11-24T14:41:37Z")
Zedster, you are of course right. Companies will invest in research that can generate the most revenue. While your non-traditional gender and gender preference references you spoke of are viable consumers and would prbably be interested in pheros, they represent a very small percentage of the buying public. Looks like any phero research into those areas will come from places like Andrstenone and user experimentation. And, BTW many years ago I dated a girl that went to UOP in Stockton. We drove up to S.F. one time and were clueless where we were actually going, but after driving around for awhile ended up in an area with a bunch of nightclubs, without realizing that all the clubs catered to alternative lifestyles. There were couples all around, but of course we were the only straight couple in the club. I’ve got to say, I felt kind of weird and uncomfortable, but nobody had a problem with us being there. ---
**Author:** ![zedster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zedster/32/1715_2.png) [@zedster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zedster)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2007, 10:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/in-case-your-head-wasnt-spinning-the-first-time/6809/5 "2007-11-25T22:59:55Z")
I don’t know if percentage is necessarily the prime concern in marketing, at least all the time. I’d suspect people with the most disposable income who are also the most likely to spend that income are a company’s best bet, because a majority demographic might not necessarily be interested or easy to convince to buy X product, whereas a small percentage of the public might be exponentially easier to market to and they also have more money to spend. I’m not saying this is necessarily the case with non-straight transgendered people buying pheros, but…who knows? I don’t think anyone’s bothered doing a study. And yeah, being a minority (gender, sexuality, race, class, etc.) is always an uncomfortable feeling. It’s great that people can find places where they feel at ease.