# In search of the perfect P83 and P86 combo **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 17, 2008, 2:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/in-search-of-the-perfect-p83-and-p86-combo/15715 "2008-07-17T14:05:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 5
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2008, 2:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/in-search-of-the-perfect-p83-and-p86-combo/15715/5 "2008-07-18T14:41:23Z")
Hey Mr M, here’s as close as Tater ever got to posting actual dosages: > [@The "MAD TATER" Journal](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/341): > > SteveO, i think 1:4 is correct. One of the pheros was massively weak and i only ordered 2.5mcg dosage. Fortunately, one of the MX in my stash had it at 12.5mcg and i was able to try 25mcg:7.5mcg with reasonable volume. Its never good to DRIP pheros. I know i posted on here about a great kissing session i had, but i cant find it. Maybe i should PM Visionary… > [@MadisonTate](#): > > SteveO, i think 1:4 is correct. One of the pheros was massively weak and i only ordered 2.5mcg dosage. Fortunately, one of the MX in my stash had it at 12.5mcg and i was able to try 25mcg:7.5mcg with reasonable volume. Its never good to DRIP pheros. > [@MadisonTate](#): > > Start at 12.5 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) [P86](https://pheromonelabs.com/) to 2.5 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/). I archived some of my notes and need to double-check that, though. Im sure i have the ratio somewhere here. The rest of that little conversation is in the posts right around the link. I second the motion for SteveO to give up the results of his experiments with these two, and whether or not Tater’s ratio gave him any results. --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/in-search-of-the-perfect-p83-and-p86-combo/15715)._