# Inconsistent results with pheromones **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 22, 2009, 12:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/inconsistent-results-with-pheromones/26378 "2009-02-22T12:51:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![stuttgart-man](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/stuttgart-man/32/1615_2.png) [@stuttgart-man](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stuttgart-man)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 12:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/inconsistent-results-with-pheromones/26378/1 "2009-02-22T12:51:57Z")
Whenever I use a product / product-mix for a period of time, results fade away! I have often tried a new product and have get really great hits! I got many eye-contacts, smiles, touching, kisses, attention and sex! But after a while (most after 1 to 2 months) the products lost on effectiviness and finally it makes no difference if I wear the product or I do not ☹ And even I do not use this product a whole week, hits do not come back! But then if I change the product (sometimes I have to do a little experiment about mix and amount) I get hits again, but then after a while these hits fades away too! So often I have thought, that I have found the “Holy Grail” I got so many hits and then the hits fades away! This is so depessing… I do not use [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) every day. Most weeks I do use pheromones 3 or 4 times! I do a shower every day and do scrub the application-points very well, so I do not think that it could be a built-up effects, or do I mistaken? Interesting: If I use the primarily product a year later I get hits again! What is it for a phenomena? Has anybody made these experiences too 😕 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 1:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/inconsistent-results-with-pheromones/26378/2 "2009-02-22T13:08:26Z")
Sure that’s normal, its like anything else in life we get used to. Once you have seen the rainbow a million times it loses its awe. Its sort of like your favorite shirt. You love it, its comfortable and looks great on you. But if you wear it everyday it doesnt look so great anymore. This is why its good to find a few shirts that look great on you and change them around. Its the same with mones really. Once people get used to the feeling they evoke they except it but don’t react as dramatically. They still feel it they just don’t react to it as much So you find a few good mixes that work for you and you change them around to keep it fresh and send new provoking signals. Remember mones are just part of the picture. You gotta learn to work them to your advantage. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 4:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/inconsistent-results-with-pheromones/26378/3 "2009-02-22T16:18:40Z")
> [@stuttgart-man](#): > > Whenever I use a product / product-mix for a period of time, results fade away! I have often tried a new product and have get really great hits! I got many eye-contacts, smiles, touching, kisses, attention and sex! But after a while (most after 1 to 2 months) the products lost on effectiviness and finally it makes no difference if I wear the product or I do not ☹ And even I do not use this product a whole week, hits do not come back! > > But then if I change the product (sometimes I have to do a little experiment about mix and amount) I get hits again, but then after a while these hits fades away too! > > So often I have thought, that I have found the “Holy Grail” I got so many hits and then the hits fades away! This is so depessing… > > I do not use pheromones every day. Most weeks I do use pheromones 3 or 4 times! I do a shower every day and do scrub the application-points very well, so I do not think that it could be a built-up effects, or do I mistaken? > > Interesting: If I use the primarily product a year later I get hits again! > > What is it for a phenomena? Has anybody made these experiences too 😕 is this on people you know? or you referring to people you just met and strangers? if it is people you know then this is normal as Tisha described above, but if it is strangers who never met you IMO nothing should change pheros should not stop working because they do not know your phero signature, of course the situation could change, depend where you are and not everyone reacts the same, but in general if it worked for you in 2 months it should still work IMO 2 months later ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 5:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/inconsistent-results-with-pheromones/26378/4 "2009-02-22T17:28:33Z")
react to your own patterns. when something ceases to work, time to change up. its possible that eventually you have build-up with 'none products, sometimes they rub off onto clothing or bedding and you have to oxyclean the hell out of everything :o and start over … but really its probably nothing more than everyone getting used to your new signiture and now its time for change. this might sound far-out too but when im using a product pretty much for the first month, the self-effects make me more likely to behave bolder than normal. people react to that . you get used to your own mixes, and you cease to feel self-effects and then the over-the-top reactions arent there, but you are still influencing those around you. just not in an over-the-top way. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 6:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/inconsistent-results-with-pheromones/26378/5 "2009-02-22T18:15:26Z")
I agree with both Tisha and Lor. People around you simply get used to even amazing signatures and obvious reactions fade away. In the same way, you get used to the self-medication effects and mellow out. Perhaps you don’t try as hard when used to a mix? I know when I’m trying a mix I normally kick it up a notch and thus get more hits, not because of the product, but my more foreword and friendly behavior. I have a half dozen or so mixes I cycle through to combat the mone blahs. Still not as over the top as a brand spankin’ new killer mix, but cycling helps keep a little more edge and that’s really all you need. I also don OD levels from time to time around drunk people and kids to remind me of “what the hell this shit really works” (drunks & children are more simple minded & direct than regular folk & thus don’t hide reactions). ---
**Author:** ![denigro153](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denigro153/32/772_2.png) [@denigro153](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denigro153)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 6:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/inconsistent-results-with-pheromones/26378/6 "2009-02-22T18:39:51Z")
i would say that if your dating the person the reaction will DEFINITELY weaken after a while if your using the exact same mix cause that person will get used to the emotions that the pheromones are evoking, i was dating a girl when i first started using them for about 6 months and the first month i wore it all the time and she was consistently reacting in a very obvious (IM REALLY TURNED ON RIGHT NOW ) manner but after a month or so it was less dramatic it would turn into (you smell good reaction) instead of just jumping all over you, and i believe its just cause there used to it by then (correct me if im wrong ), you have the same scent thrown in your face everyday it doesnt matter what the scent is made of your body and brain will get used to it, kinda like when people work in junk yards they dont smell shit but if you dont work there you wanna pass out when you go lol cause you just adapt to it. mix up your stuff dont wear the same stuff every day and will happen less quickly or even not at all, after a while with the new girls i would be seeing, they never got used to it cause i never allowed them to, i would wear specific products for specific purposes and sometimes i wouldnt wear them at all just to keep them guessing, but you cant expect to wear the same product every day and have the female not adapt in some way or another, or even yourself. i used to where instant shine every single day before work and after a while the big smile that you get on your face wasnt as big and dramatic after 2 months of using its just cause your used to the effect. best advice would be to just switch it up, between wearing different products and going days without wearing any at all that way when you do put them on the effect will be more dramatic for yourself and others ---
**Author:** ![stuttgart-man](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/stuttgart-man/32/1615_2.png) [@stuttgart-man](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stuttgart-man)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 12:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/inconsistent-results-with-pheromones/26378/7 "2009-02-23T00:11:24Z")
Thank you all for reply 🙂 > [@denec](#): > > is this on people you know? or you referring to people you just met and strangers? This is the curious: Most if I wear pheromones is when I am going in the disco! Sure, some people are the same like the previous days, but a big part is it not! And so they do not know my previous pheromones-signature! Perhaps there are really the self-effects… ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 10:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/inconsistent-results-with-pheromones/26378/8 "2009-02-23T10:04:19Z")
> [@](#): > > Perhaps there are really the self-effects… There not only self effect but it can be part of the picture. Think about it this way though. Whether its you or them it works and is doing what it was ment to do. Changing up is something we all do to keep it fresh. You should also consider build up though. I dont remember what was in the holy grail combo Thats the one by Cat right ? Tisha ---
**Author:** ![stuttgart-man](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/stuttgart-man/32/1615_2.png) [@stuttgart-man](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stuttgart-man)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 2:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/inconsistent-results-with-pheromones/26378/9 "2009-02-24T02:06:28Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > I dont remember what was in the holy grail combo Thats the one by Cat right ? > > Tisha Hey Tisha, there were numerous combos and single-products which have lead to great hits… - SOE + TE - NPA + Kouros - One Night Stand - Chikara But all these have mutual, that they have worked for any weeks and then the results fades away! You have wrote, that combos should be changed to keep it fresh! Is it better to change the [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/)-signature every day or is it better to stay with a combo for any weeks and then when you see the resuls become weaker then you change to another one? Concerning built up: Is 6 mcg Androstenone three times a week (total weekly amount = 18 mcg) too much? Could this lead to built up / OD? Thanks…