# Individual Pheromone Characteristics **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 16, 2008, 4:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/individual-pheromone-characteristics/23993 "2008-12-16T04:29:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 4:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/individual-pheromone-characteristics/23993/1 "2008-12-16T04:29:23Z")
So far, some of the [pheromones](https://a314.com/) I’ve been testing and working with seem to have very strong individual characteristics. All of these can sort of be categorized symbolically (at least I do that!). These pheromones could each easily become a dominant theme or signature. Of course, they can and are used together in mixes, but these pheromones don’t seem to lose their individuality much, even in mixes. Alpha Androstenol - **Song Bird** - happy but mindless communication Beta Androstenol - **Singing Whale** - deep, soulful and meaningful communication Androstenone - **Mountain Goat** - aggressive, sexually dominant, forceful Est - **Puppy** - happy, loyal, loving, cuddly Meo-Est - **Kitten** - sexy, sensual, sweet, intense when awakened TAL - **Tigress** - feminine, aloof, self-reliant, aggressive, dominant, demanding TAH - **Lioness** - feminine, receptive, needy, passive, submissive, yielding P74 - **Butterfly** - cheerful, harmonious P79 - **Race Horse** - wild, fast, sleek P80 - **Wild Boar** , **Bull** , **Buck** - aggressive, mean, sexually dominant, war-like P87 - **Lizard** - cold, calculating, no-nonsense, analytical P93 - **Honey Bee** - busy with happy and meaningful work, engaging others to work together, motivating Others seem more like flavors with less well-defined characteristics. These are more mutable and best used for steering or to give certain attenuation to the mix. TAA - shiny happiness TAF - focusing, intensity-building TAC - physically relaxing, centering I have other pheromones, but these are the ones I’ve used most and have been able to categorize so far. If you’d like to add to these with your experience with them or any others, feel free. 🙂 Diane ---
**Author:** ![Butterfly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/butterfly/32/1942_2.png) [@Butterfly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Butterfly)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 9:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/individual-pheromone-characteristics/23993/2 "2008-12-16T09:37:14Z")
Cool list, thanks for writing this! ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 4:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/individual-pheromone-characteristics/23993/3 "2008-12-16T16:46:16Z")
I’d like to add one more to the list. [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) - **Old Oak Tree** - still, heavy, quiet, centered Diane ---
**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 6:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/individual-pheromone-characteristics/23993/4 "2008-12-16T18:40:14Z")
Ah yeah, I was wondering where [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) was… well, I agree with your characterisations - of the ones that I have tried myself, anyway. Still, I have not experienced much in the way of self-effects or effects on others with P83 yet. But with P93, the effects were immediate and very apparent. Perhaps P83 is more subtle, I need to try it some more… ---
**Author:** ![Rad47](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rad47/32/356_2.png) [@Rad47](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rad47)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 9:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/individual-pheromone-characteristics/23993/5 "2008-12-16T21:26:47Z")
Wow, what a great list! Thanks for posting this. ---
**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 5:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/individual-pheromone-characteristics/23993/6 "2008-12-19T17:43:44Z")
I’ll add a couple to this list P123 - **Diving Falcon** - Rude, Aggressive, Confident, Powerful, Masculine P124 - **Dancing Fire** - Intense, Playful, Fun, Intense (2x for emphasis) P101 is harder to characterize… Quickening Mentally (the world seems to move more slowly), Clumsy/Slowing Physically (you move slowly compared to the world), Out of body (pain is less intense) ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 8:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/individual-pheromone-characteristics/23993/7 "2008-12-19T20:22:33Z")
> [@Wrlprchnx](#): > > I’ll add a couple to this list > > P123 - **Diving Falcon** - Rude, Aggressive, Confident, Powerful, Masculine > P124 - **Dancing Fire** - Intense, Playful, Fun, Intense (2x for emphasis) > > P101 is harder to characterize… Quickening Mentally (the world seems to move more slowly), Clumsy/Slowing Physically (you move slowly compared to the world), Out of body (pain is less intense) Nice! Thanks! I don’t have any of those yet. Do you think any of these have characteristics in common? When you talk about **P101** being quickening mentally, do you think clearer? And the clumsiness, is that because you feel like moving too fast, or do you think it is some kind of body relaxation or sedation effect? Is **P123** anything like P80? That is one powerful molecule… I always think **Spartan!** - just before he kicks the dude down the well - with P80. It can be kind of rude. Or is it more like the irritable masculine rude of Androstenone? Is it as snappish as Androstenone, or more controllable? Does **P124** make you want to do anything, or does it make you see things in a more fun way. Do you get any body effects from it? Sorry for all the questions! But thanks for your answers. 😛 Diane ---
**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 9:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/individual-pheromone-characteristics/23993/8 "2008-12-19T21:28:42Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > Nice! Thanks! I don’t have any of those yet. > > Do you think any of these have characteristics in common? > > When you talk about **P101** being quickening mentally, do you think clearer? And the clumsiness, is that because you feel like moving too fast, or do you think it is some kind of body relaxation or sedation effect? The majority of my experience with P101 has been while playing Ultimate… I found that when I was wearing it in sufficient concentrations (24-48 mcg) I found that it felt like I could see what was happening on the field much more clearly - especially when I had the disk… it was like the game was slowed down for me. Sounds great, but I also found that I got clumsy, dropping gimme passes and that sort of thing - It’s like P101 helps with “Big scale” concentration at the expense of “small scale” concentration. I also remember being more fidgety than normal after application (I naturally fidget ALOT if I don’t concentrate on not moving my body). Erm… as I said, it was a hard molecule to really track down > [@diane999](#): > > Is **P123** anything like P80? That is one powerful molecule… I always think **Spartan!** - just before he kicks the dude down the well - with P80. It can be kind of rude. Or is it more like the irritable masculine rude of Androstenone? Is it as snappish as Androstenone, or more controllable? Never used P80… It’s somewhat snappish like 'none, but not from the same place… 'none is an “I’m angry so I snap at you” kinda rude, P123 was more of a “This is what I feel like saying so I’ll say it” kinda rude. As far as controllable… it’s hard to say because while I was wearing it I didn’t feel like I was being rude… I was just saying what I felt like saying With 'none I know I’m being rude and angry, I just don’t care alot… maybe it’s different for females. The rudeness of P123 is not a bad mood either… I felt good about being rude when wearing it (whereas my major 'none OD was a just plain nasty/unfun moodyness) > [@diane999](#): > > Does **P124** make you want to do anything, or does it make you see things in a more fun way. Do you get any body effects from it? > > Sorry for all the questions! But thanks for your answers. 😛 > > Diane I haven’t completely finished my first set of testing with P124… Essentially I’ve mostly used it when going bowling (combo social + Physical… with older people and some younger… great for testing). It’s fun in that I just find myself being more fun/having more fun when I’m wearing it… not TAA’s just in a good mood, but moreso that I’m more present and interacting with others in a “fun way”… I haven’t completely confirmed it in my head yet… but I would argue that P124 has some serious physical effects related to that intensity (x2)… It has seemed like I do everything with more intensity/“in the moment’ness” when I’m wearing it. I have some preliminary bits in my Journal for P124… Probably by the end/middle of January I’ll be posting a full report on the molecule… Of the three I could really see P124 playing well in a sexuality/sensuality mix… In of itself it isn’t really a “sexy” molecule like 'none, but insofar I’ve found that when I’m wearing it my highs feel _higher_ and I become more expressive of that high feeling because of it…(Since sex becomes fundamentally better the more intense it is…) A word of caution, I haven’t had a bad day wearing P124 yet so I don’t know whether it had a darkside (if it boosts the intensity of a “low” as well) ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2008, 12:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/individual-pheromone-characteristics/23993/9 "2008-12-20T00:57:20Z")
Wow! Very nice! Thank you so much for this! 🙂 Diane ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2008, 4:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/individual-pheromone-characteristics/23993/10 "2008-12-20T16:27:59Z")
Diane, you are so cool. Love your list, tried to rep you but have to wait! ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 3:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/individual-pheromone-characteristics/23993/11 "2008-12-21T03:01:39Z")
> [@Carrie](#): > > Diane, you are so cool. Love your list, tried to rep you but have to wait! Thanks, Carrie! Diane ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 2:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/individual-pheromone-characteristics/23993/12 "2008-12-24T14:28:22Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > P93 - **Honey Bee** - busy with happy and meaningful work, engaging others to work together, motivating Great posting and thread idea!!! I have to agree with [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/). I have been wearing this one to the office for a long time now (daily at just 5 mcg) and I have noticed people around me going off in a trance. They seem more fanatical (though not necessarily excessively) about doing their work and completing their tasks. Small talk is lessened and instead everyone is just busy trying to complete tasks. The molecule does have other sides to it - promotes unselfish ‘volunteering’ to help, promotes male bonding at times, promote smiles and friendly bonding conversations from some females and not so much others, etc. Not sure how the honey bee can relate to the bonding effect, but I can definitely see your choice was right on for the molecule’s effect on work. I’m telling ya, have P93 going through the air in every working space and a company’s output may really increase by quite a bit 😉…