# Ingredients for Androtics Pheromones? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 24, 2007, 8:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ingredients-for-androtics-pheromones/3304 "2007-04-24T08:19:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 40
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 9:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ingredients-for-androtics-pheromones/3304/40 "2013-12-19T21:14:06Z")
Good man, Red. If the purpose of this board is to advance the science of mones, perhaps more threads like this will do so. I previously used a 3D visualization of Alpha Nol as my avatar. Some years ago, Jasmin referenced the Van Der Waals similarity between [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) and 79, disclaiming a similarity to androstanone. An accurate way to visualize a molecule in 3D (and identify it correctly) is with a free software viewer called JMOL. One loads the SMILES format into the viewer. Thus, my avatar was born. Alpha nol is \*\*C[C@]12CC[C@H]3C@HCC[C@@H]4[C@@]3(CCC@HO)C . \*\*The Van Der Waals solvent surface tries to predict solvent-molecule interaction. > [@Adding p75 to p93 can prevent blacks and asians to be replled?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/adding-p75-to-p93-can-prevent-blacks-and-asians-to-be-replled/43888/4): > > Hmm… I guess this p93 and race thing needs some testing. I never seem to have any problems when I wear it. Then again I am black. Deja Vu, Androtics has explicitly stated that p75 is not androstanone. Originally Posted by Jasmin [Hello From Joseph in Australia - #3 by Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-joseph-in-australia/2944/3) \*I may not be a chemical structure expert, but from the molecule name, molecular weight, and the little Vander Waals 3d visualization, [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) looks like it’s pretty far from AndrostA and AndrostE anything. … > **[Jmol](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jmol)** > > Jmol is computer software for molecular modelling of chemical structures in 3 dimensions. > It is an open-source Java viewer for chemical structures in 3D. The name originated from the Java programming language, molecules, and also the mol file format. JSmol is an implementation in JavaScript of the functionality of Jmol. Hence it can be embedded in web pages to display interactive 3D models of molecules and other structures without the need for any software apart from the web browser. Both Jmol ... And now you know…the **rest** of the story. --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ingredients-for-androtics-pheromones/3304)._