# Initial impressions of p104 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 2, 2007, 4:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/initial-impressions-of-p104/5363 "2007-09-02T04:48:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 57
**Author:** ![Pheraoh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheraoh/32/857_2.png) [@Pheraoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheraoh)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2007, 4:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/initial-impressions-of-p104/5363/57 "2007-09-30T04:37:46Z")
> [@capone](#): > > Maybe it’s casual, maybe it’s circunstantial, maybe it was today, it need more testing but I think this phero is all Instant Shine should have been (I have never got self effects with it) but, taking it seriously, if tomorrow i get same results, this is a very good phero to include in the instant line and I hope it will not have any “secondary effects” 😉 (not going down nor headaches like has been reported with IShine). I have not noticed a sexual spark and not tested it in clubs, bars, or for women-catching but, it defintely has noticeable happyness-excitement effects and it simply make you feel full of happyness. Funny you mention IShine. I found after using 12.5mcg of P104 or more my self tolerance to IShine went up. The self rip effect of P104 you speak of I’ve yet to experience. Time to really megadose. I found when using it with Turn Up The Heat it gave it more of a sexual vibe. Then again TUTH gives everything a sexual vibe so that result shouldn’t be at all surprising. --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/initial-impressions-of-p104/5363)._